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Post by blackmegaman on Jul 4, 2011 3:34:08 GMT -5
....and people say how so many people like Trent Baretta ,Bryan Daniel , Evan Borune , Tyson Kidd , ect. are being underutilized you think the WWE should have it's own version of this....
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Post by unoriginalalex on Jul 4, 2011 3:37:03 GMT -5
Obviously, Yes.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 4, 2011 3:39:58 GMT -5
For that to work, it'd require WWE actually have a damned cruiserweight division again.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Jul 4, 2011 3:49:59 GMT -5
For that to work, it'd require WWE actually have a damned cruiserweight division again. ...that they care about. Just having a Cruiserweight division for the hell of it does no one favors and leads to Horny holding the title, and no one wants that. See also, the Tag, Divas, IC, and US title divisions, or everything but the main event scene.
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Post by hassanchop on Jul 4, 2011 5:09:46 GMT -5
Or he could start a new Natural Born Thrillers with them.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 4, 2011 5:52:06 GMT -5
No. In the long term, the PCS was a vehicle to get ONE person over, and his name was Kevin Nash. No one else got over from that long-term, and, for that matter, I think only the one guy is still IN TNA on a permanent basis.
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Post by rogers67 on Jul 4, 2011 5:54:08 GMT -5
HELL YEAH!! it only got nash over, but that was funny as hell.
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Post by Big Evil on Jul 4, 2011 6:03:18 GMT -5
No. In the long term, the PCS was a vehicle to get ONE person over, and his name was Kevin Nash. No one else got over from that long-term, and, for that matter, I think only the one guy is still IN TNA on a permanent basis. It was supposed to help elevate both Shelley & Aries, but Aries ending up leaving or getting fired from the promotion not that long after debuting and they kinda just flew into the Machine Guns from there. It also turned Jay Lethal into Black Machismo which was arguably the biggest run of his career. So, yeah.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 4, 2011 6:05:56 GMT -5
No. In the long term, the PCS was a vehicle to get ONE person over, and his name was Kevin Nash. No one else got over from that long-term, and, for that matter, I think only the one guy is still IN TNA on a permanent basis. It was supposed to help elevate both Shelley & Aries, but Aries ending up leaving or getting fired from the promotion not that long after debuting and they kinda just flew into the Machine Guns from there. It also turned Jay Lethal into Black Machismo which was arguably the biggest run of his career. So, yeah. And where is Jay Lethal now? What did that "biggest run in his career" do for him?
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Post by Big Evil on Jul 4, 2011 6:09:34 GMT -5
It was supposed to help elevate both Shelley & Aries, but Aries ending up leaving or getting fired from the promotion not that long after debuting and they kinda just flew into the Machine Guns from there. It also turned Jay Lethal into Black Machismo which was arguably the biggest run of his career. So, yeah. And where is Jay Lethal now? What did that "biggest run in his career" do for him? Well, a run has both a starting point and an ending point there, pal. What was that, 2006, 2007? And it had him over (even after) until 2010? So a three year solid run, which was the biggest run of his career? That's a bad thing? You're really going to argue semantics with a stupid argument like that? Everyone's run eventually comes to an end unless you're a huge star. But I'll let your hate for Kevin Nash blind you from making rational arguments.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 4, 2011 6:11:46 GMT -5
I read this as, "Since Kevin Nash is black"
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 4, 2011 6:16:04 GMT -5
And where is Jay Lethal now? What did that "biggest run in his career" do for him? Well, a run has both a starting point and an ending point there, pal. What was that, 2006, 2007? And it had him over (even after) until 2010? So a three year solid run, which was the biggest run of his career? That's a bad thing? You're really going to argue semantics with a stupid argument like that? Everyone's run eventually comes to an end unless you're a huge star. But I'll let your hate for Kevin Nash blind you from making rational arguments. Problem being that that "three year run" featured about a year and a half basically being used as a random face in the crowd for TNA. He had like....A match with Kurt Angle, and from there.....what did he do that was notable in any way that can be attributed to the PCS again?
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Post by Big Evil on Jul 4, 2011 6:21:42 GMT -5
Well, a run has both a starting point and an ending point there, pal. What was that, 2006, 2007? And it had him over (even after) until 2010? So a three year solid run, which was the biggest run of his career? That's a bad thing? You're really going to argue semantics with a stupid argument like that? Everyone's run eventually comes to an end unless you're a huge star. But I'll let your hate for Kevin Nash blind you from making rational arguments. Problem being that that "three year run" featured about a year and a half basically being used as a random face in the crowd for TNA. He had like....A match with Kurt Angle, and from there.....what did he do that was notable in any way that can be attributed to the PCS again? ...The PCS turned him into Black Machismo which gave him that run. THAT'S what it did. He was used constantly, he had the match with angle, was pretty prominent in the X-Division for those years, and it bled into his year or so with TNA as he slowly shed the Macho Man persona and feuded with Flair and won the X-Division Title. Are you seriously this compelled just to hate Kevin Nash that you'll look for anything and everything to blame on him? Dude's got a shitty past with politics and bad booking in WCW, but seriously man, you're getting a bit over zealous here.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 4, 2011 6:31:35 GMT -5
Problem being that that "three year run" featured about a year and a half basically being used as a random face in the crowd for TNA. He had like....A match with Kurt Angle, and from there.....what did he do that was notable in any way that can be attributed to the PCS again? ...The PCS turned him into Black Machismo which gave him that run. THAT'S what it did. He was used constantly, he had the match with angle, was pretty prominent in the X-Division for those years, and it bled into his year or so with TNA as he slowly shed the Macho Man persona and feuded with Flair and won the X-Division Title. Are you seriously this compelled just to hate Kevin Nash that you'll look for anything and everything to blame on him? Dude's got a s***ty past with politics and bad booking in WCW, but seriously man, you're getting a bit over zealous here. Yes, the guy NOT using terms like "stupid arguments" and "blind hatred" to tear down another's argument is the one getting "overzealous" in this discussion.
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Post by Big Evil on Jul 4, 2011 6:37:58 GMT -5
...The PCS turned him into Black Machismo which gave him that run. THAT'S what it did. He was used constantly, he had the match with angle, was pretty prominent in the X-Division for those years, and it bled into his year or so with TNA as he slowly shed the Macho Man persona and feuded with Flair and won the X-Division Title. Are you seriously this compelled just to hate Kevin Nash that you'll look for anything and everything to blame on him? Dude's got a s***ty past with politics and bad booking in WCW, but seriously man, you're getting a bit over zealous here. Yes, the guy NOT using terms like "stupid arguments" and "blind hatred" to tear down another's argument is the one getting "overzealous" in this discussion. Haha, alright, guy. Think what you want. Went from a spirited debate to you being unable to come up with any real discussion points for the topic at hand. You are the EXACT type of poster that makes good places like these un-enjoyable at times. You want to post on a wrestling discussion board? Then instead of attacking people, getting sarcastic and pretending to be a bad ass by putting everything I said in "quotes" to really emphasize how wrong you think I am, instead, actually try having a discussion, expressing your opinions, and even debating them. You constantly repeating the same question when I've given you my answer isn't a debate, it's you being a douchebag. I'm sure I'll get warned for this, but to hell with it. Go ahead and respond back with your "quotes", asking mundane questions and zero discussion skills. Have fun, big man. Back on topic, doing something like the PCS in WWE frightens me. TNA has a penchant to at least be humorous in their backstage segments. I still die at the one segment with Kip James when he told somebody "I used to have that car." "When?" "When I was over", and he just walks off. But WWE? Rarely anymore can they put on anything even remotely funny, and something like this would surely just be ruined and feature Hornswoggle more than anything else.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Jul 4, 2011 6:43:43 GMT -5
Yes, the guy NOT using terms like "stupid arguments" and "blind hatred" to tear down another's argument is the one getting "overzealous" in this discussion. Haha, alright, guy. Think what you want. Went from a spirited debate to you being unable to come up with any real discussion points for the topic at hand. You are the EXACT type of poster that makes good places like these un-enjoyable at times. You want to post on a wrestling discussion board? Then instead of attacking people, getting sarcastic and pretending to be a bad ass by putting everything I said in "quotes" to really emphasize how wrong you think I am, instead, actually try having a discussion, expressing your opinions, and even debating them. You constantly repeating the same question when I've given you my answer isn't a debate, it's you being a douchebag. I'm sure I'll get warned for this, but to hell with it. Go ahead and respond back with your "quotes", asking mundane questions and zero discussion skills. Have fun, big man. Back on topic, doing something like the PCS in WWE frightens me. TNA has a penchant to at least be humorous in their backstage segments. I still die at the one segment with Kip James when he told somebody "I used to have that car." "When?" "When I was over", and he just walks off. But WWE? Rarely anymore can they put on anything even remotely funny, and something like this would surely just be ruined and feature Hornswoggle more than anything else. For the record, I put what you said in quotes because I was.....quoting you, dude. And also, debating my opinions isn't calling them "stupid" right out of the gate. That's not debate, that's dismissal.
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Post by Big L on Jul 4, 2011 11:10:39 GMT -5
Yes!!
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 4, 2011 11:22:36 GMT -5
Jay Lethal also had a nice feud against Team 3D and Johnny Devine to save the honor of the X Division. Lethal was EXTREMELY over for awhile thanks to the PCS.
This also helped get Shelley even more over, but when Aries decided to say no to a feud against Bob Backlund things got changed.
And no a PCS wouldn't work in WWE mainly because I don't feel anybody has the charisma Shelley did. Remember the PCS was not the only skits they did. It was always Shelley and Nash
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2011 11:24:36 GMT -5
I say no, just because it was awesome the first time around, but sequels are rarely any good.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Jul 4, 2011 16:37:48 GMT -5
I say no, just because it was awesome the first time around, but sequels are rarely any good. T2: Judgment Day says hi. I know what you mean, and I agree, but a lot of sequels aren't bad. Some even outshine the original.
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