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Post by GaTechGrad on May 12, 2011 20:04:19 GMT -5
I could see a handicap match at BFG... Sting vs Hogan and <insert Immortal guy>.
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Post by ICBM on May 12, 2011 20:09:10 GMT -5
Still "just say'n"
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Post by ICBM on May 12, 2011 20:11:51 GMT -5
Also, Austin can't even take a whip into a turnbuckle without literally risking death and or paralysis so I(m calling hogan more mobile. Rock is ten plus years younger than Sting I will grant but Sting can still go so to me its a fair comparison
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on May 12, 2011 20:13:20 GMT -5
Also, Austin can't even take a whip into a turnbuckle without literally risking death and or paralysis so I(m calling hogan more mobile. Rock is ten plus years younger than Sting I will grant but Sting can still go so to me its a fair comparison Hogan looks like he struggles just to walk significant distances without assistance. I'm still giving Austin the edge there.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on May 12, 2011 20:21:19 GMT -5
Also my belief is that if wwe put Rock vs Austin on poverty again, nobody here would gripe about two legends who sold out everywhere wrestling one last time. Just say'n Why must every arbitrarily contrarian point of view end with variations on the term "Just sayin'"? Too many people come in, make a contrarian statement as though we're all hive-minded, and then leaves without attempting to come to terms with why many people think the way they do about this match. No, we probably wouldn't crap all over Rock vs. Austin redux because a) Rock is in outstanding shape b) Austin has gone on record as saying that he's in good enough shape that he could go on the road again for a year if he wanted to - he just doesn't. So it's not a matter of ability with Austin, but instead a matter of wanting to do it or not, and c) both are still relevant (or capable of being relevant) today. They still both get huge reactions, don't seem worn or outdated in a sad or embarrassing sense, and the match itself would likely at least be serviceable because they can both STILL TAKE BUMPS. Hogan is a bump away (not even a particularly dangerous bump - just a bump) from hocking his Hulka-wares from a wheelchair. And if the past two months of Sting as champion isn't enough indication that you're not going to get it from him bell-to-bell anymore, I don't know what is. In which case, I couldn't see this match being anything other than a farcical mess. For one, I hope they really aren't thinking of doing this match, but if they are, I honestly do hope that I'm proven wrong and that they can at least get something out of this (whether it's a serviceable match or a hot atmosphere or even a hot angle). And at the absolute VERY least, I hope doesn't wind up a cripple because of it. Because an in-ring performance from Hogan is the last carrot he has to dangle in front of TPTB to explain why he hasn't made a truly measurable difference yet. And the last time he wrestled, it did do a good rating, so there's that.
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Post by jadison on May 12, 2011 20:26:04 GMT -5
As to this being a rematch of starcade 97 14 years later, the starcade rematch happend two months after the first and Sting went over. That gets forgotten too often Mostly because that Superbrawl match WCW post 1997 was REALLY mediocre and tainted by outside interference.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 12, 2011 20:42:40 GMT -5
Also my belief is that if wwe put Rock vs Austin on poverty again, nobody here would gripe about two legends who sold out everywhere wrestling one last time. Just say'n Why must every arbitrarily contrarian point of view end with variations on the term "Just sayin'"? Too many people come in, make a contrarian statement as though we're all hive-minded, and then leaves without attempting to come to terms with why many people think the way they do about this match. No, we probably wouldn't crap all over Rock vs. Austin redux because a) Rock is in outstanding shape b) Austin has gone on record as saying that he's in good enough shape that he could go on the road again for a year if he wanted to - he just doesn't. So it's not a matter of ability with Austin, but instead a matter of wanting to do it or not, and c) both are still relevant (or capable of being relevant) today. They still both get huge reactions, don't seem worn or outdated in a sad or embarrassing sense, and the match itself would likely at least be serviceable because they can both STILL TAKE BUMPS. Hogan is a bump away (not even a particularly dangerous bump - just a bump) from hocking his Hulka-wares from a wheelchair. And if the past two months of Sting as champion isn't enough indication that you're not going to get it from him bell-to-bell anymore, I don't know what is. In which case, I couldn't see this match being anything other than a farcical mess. For one, I hope they really aren't thinking of doing this match, but if they are, I honestly do hope that I'm proven wrong and that they can at least get something out of this (whether it's a serviceable match or a hot atmosphere or even a hot angle). And at the absolute VERY least, I hope doesn't wind up a cripple because of it. Because an in-ring performance from Hogan is the last carrot he has to dangle in front of TPTB to explain why he hasn't made a truly measurable difference yet. And the last time he wrestled, it did do a good rating, so there's that. The thing that people seem to forget is that, even back in 2002 with The Rock, Hogan wasn't someone like Taker who was all about the skills in the ring. Hogan was more about just getting people invested in a match. Hogan's in-ring skill may not be top notch, but the right emotion behind it could make a dull match actually exciting, regardless of workrate. In that aspect, he's still got it, even in TNA. I remember when the NC tapings happened, we had people here, jaded as hell, forget all that when Hogan walked out, if only for a second. Really, no one is expecting some kind of technical classic, even if Hogan was 1000% healthy. However, I seriously doubt it will matter, cause Hogan can show time and time again, even with his body how it was, that he knows what strings to pull and what buttons to push in order to get that crowd going where it doesn't matter.
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Post by ICBM on May 12, 2011 21:44:18 GMT -5
Someone said the same thing I said about Austin but used Hogan instead. Austin takes the wrong bump in the ring and he could die. He retired at the hieght of popularity because of it. Hogan takes the wrong bump(don't mistake me I don't want him in the ring but if he's is determined than let him)he goes back into surgery and yes could require the use of a walker like Billy Grahm or even a wheel chair. The point I was trying to make is that legends vs legends who squared off once upon a time will draw interest. Put this in a WWE ring during SS, RR or WM and it'd draw millions of dollars. Let TNA get 200 more ppv buys on top of the 20,000 they likely draw. I am not alone in having an interest in seeing this if Hogan; the legend and spokesman for TNA wrestling, wants to
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Post by s l i k on May 12, 2011 21:50:27 GMT -5
Once again TNA, er IMPACT WRESTLING goes out of it's way to shoot itself in the foot.
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Post by Michael Coello on May 12, 2011 21:58:33 GMT -5
Once again TNA, er IMPACT WRESTLING goes out of it's way to shoot itself in the foot. More like people calling for a shot foot before TNA even gets the permit for a firearm. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Error on May 12, 2011 22:06:09 GMT -5
Also, Austin can't even take a whip into a turnbuckle without literally risking death and or paralysis so I(m calling hogan more mobile. Rock is ten plus years younger than Sting I will grant but Sting can still go so to me its a fair comparison He's been running spots and bumping fine on Tough Enough. Austin can easily still go, has said so several times and has proven it. Also, WWE did a similar match already with Taker and Triple H, it went fine and wasn't the focus of their biggest show of the year like you'd have to assume would be the case if this news turns out to be true.
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Post by 8.2.11/SAVIOR_NEZ on May 12, 2011 22:07:50 GMT -5
Why must every arbitrarily contrarian point of view end with variations on the term "Just sayin'"? Too many people come in, make a contrarian statement as though we're all hive-minded, and then leaves without attempting to come to terms with why many people think the way they do about this match. No, we probably wouldn't crap all over Rock vs. Austin redux because a) Rock is in outstanding shape b) Austin has gone on record as saying that he's in good enough shape that he could go on the road again for a year if he wanted to - he just doesn't. So it's not a matter of ability with Austin, but instead a matter of wanting to do it or not, and c) both are still relevant (or capable of being relevant) today. They still both get huge reactions, don't seem worn or outdated in a sad or embarrassing sense, and the match itself would likely at least be serviceable because they can both STILL TAKE BUMPS. Hogan is a bump away (not even a particularly dangerous bump - just a bump) from hocking his Hulka-wares from a wheelchair. And if the past two months of Sting as champion isn't enough indication that you're not going to get it from him bell-to-bell anymore, I don't know what is. In which case, I couldn't see this match being anything other than a farcical mess. For one, I hope they really aren't thinking of doing this match, but if they are, I honestly do hope that I'm proven wrong and that they can at least get something out of this (whether it's a serviceable match or a hot atmosphere or even a hot angle). And at the absolute VERY least, I hope doesn't wind up a cripple because of it. Because an in-ring performance from Hogan is the last carrot he has to dangle in front of TPTB to explain why he hasn't made a truly measurable difference yet. And the last time he wrestled, it did do a good rating, so there's that. The thing that people seem to forget is that, even back in 2002 with The Rock, Hogan wasn't someone like Taker who was all about the skills in the ring. Hogan was more about just getting people invested in a match. Hogan's in-ring skill may not be top notch, but the right emotion behind it could make a dull match actually exciting, regardless of workrate. In that aspect, he's still got it, even in TNA. I remember when the NC tapings happened, we had people here, jaded as hell, forget all that when Hogan walked out, if only for a second. Really, no one is expecting some kind of technical classic, even if Hogan was 1000% healthy. However, I seriously doubt it will matter, cause Hogan can show time and time again, even with his body how it was, that he knows what strings to pull and what buttons to push in order to get that crowd going where it doesn't matter. So if Hogan knows what to do to get the crowd going (which I agree that he can), surely he could do it in a way that doesn't involve him getting in the ring and risking his health further, right?
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Post by mcstoklasa on May 12, 2011 22:22:35 GMT -5
If Hulk does somehow have ONE more match in him... and he doesnt,... but if he did, don't waste it on this. Hulk if you wanna kill yourself doing one more match, somehow leave TNA and do it again Austin at Mania.
I know it'll never happen but if Hulk does wrestle once more, and f*** himself up for good then it might as well be on the grandest stage of them all in a dream match.
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Post by mcstoklasa on May 12, 2011 22:24:24 GMT -5
Also, Austin can't even take a whip into a turnbuckle without literally risking death and or paralysis Hugely exaggerated. He was taking bumps on tough enough and said he will do more if theres a second series. He also said before wrestlemania he could wrestle again but just doesnt want to.
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Post by ratedXsuperstar on May 12, 2011 23:03:39 GMT -5
Make it a 3 way with Flair! And George Washington can be the special guest ref! Oh my God, what is Methuselah doing in the Impact Zone?
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Post by s l i k on May 13, 2011 0:40:21 GMT -5
Make it a 3 way with Flair! Only if Mick Foley is in Sting's corner and Eric Bischoff is in Hogan. That way the marketing can be something along the lines of: Hogan. Sting. Flair. Foley. Bischoff. The biggest event in wrestling history.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2011 1:57:58 GMT -5
You can have Hogan get his big comeuppance without him having a match, it just takes this little thing known in some rare circles as clever booking. Course, no one here actually explains what that "clever booking" idea even is, and I'm guessing they don't know either...... ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Having watched quite a bit of TNA I can say that TNA doesn't know either, so this is all moot! =P
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on May 13, 2011 2:16:36 GMT -5
Course, no one here actually explains what that "clever booking" idea even is, and I'm guessing they don't know either...... ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Having watched quite a bit of TNA I can say that TNA doesn't know either, so this is all moot! =P ![](http://cdn.idolator.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/statler_waldorf.jpg) Statler and Waldorf approve of this post, and great job carrying on their spirit.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on May 13, 2011 6:10:23 GMT -5
Make it a 3 way with Flair! And George Washington can be the special guest ref! Oh my God, what is Methuselah doing in the Impact Zone? Flair owes him 50 shekels.
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Post by FUNK_US/BRODUS on May 13, 2011 8:01:08 GMT -5
I hope Sting shoot pins him a la Hardy. That should be Stings new gimmick, just shoot pinning people.
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