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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 1, 2011 15:50:04 GMT -5
All speculation has pointed to JGL being a villain from what I've seen. What if he is actually more of an Azrael character? We do have Bane after all, and it seems likely that he will physically take Batman out at some point.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Aug 1, 2011 21:08:13 GMT -5
The one thing about the Burton/Schumacher Batman movies that I wish would have carried over into Nolan's universe was the fact that you could probably count on one hand the number of scenes that took place in broad daylight. And of those scenes, BATMAN HIMSELF never appeared in one. I mean, it seems antithetical to the entire concept behind the character to have him brawling around in broad daylight. Granted, he's not simply one to just let bad guys have the run of the place simply because the sun is out, but I hate this move as a matter of principle. Hell, it bugged me even seeing Joker traipsing about in the daylight even if it was to blow up a hospital (although I was really more bothered by the fact that he makes his getaway in a school bus full of seemingly non-complicit hospital personnel who seem to either not notice or not care that the hospital bomber is clearly getting into the bus with them). And while I'm on the subject of things that bothered me about TDK, why did Joker {Spoiler}give Batman the wrong addresses for Harvey and Rachel? The whole point of Joker's plan, it seemed, was for Batman to have to CHOOSE either selfishness (insofar as saving Rachel could be called selfish) or selflessness (saving Harvey for the good of Gotham). By giving him bad information, it completely invalidates the point of the exercise at all, since Batman is making his choice on false assumptions. Maybe Joker wanted Harvey to go crazy and corrupt Gotham's white knight by killing his girlfriend, but it still seems ridiculous. Anyway, please ignore my nagging. I've loved these Batman movies so far, and I am absolutely psyched for this. The set pics are working wonders on me right about now, my minor gripes aside. |
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Post by Krimzon on Aug 1, 2011 21:41:31 GMT -5
Do we really have to put TDK plot points in spoiler tags? The movie has been out for 3 years.
What Joker did was about Dent and proving a point to Batman. Harvey Dent was "what Gotham needed." Joker saw that and used Dent to make a point to Batman. Any man can descend into madness and go against what he preached. He wanted to show Batman what it would be like before trying to do the same to him.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 1, 2011 21:43:56 GMT -5
I liked Joker's plans better when they involved balloons. It was simple. Get big balloons, fill with Joker gas, kill everyone around him.
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Aug 1, 2011 22:11:04 GMT -5
Do we really have to put TDK plot points in spoiler tags? The movie has been out for 3 years. Society today is waaaaay more spoiler-sensitive than they are spoiler-prone. I figured to err on the side of caution, lest I find a hate-filled invective in my inbox since "Just because this thread is about the third movie in a trilogy doesn't mean that everybody's seen all of the movies so far!" Not accusing anybody of that here, just that I've experienced netrage more often than I feel comfortable experiencing again. |
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Aug 1, 2011 22:43:32 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 1, 2011 22:46:40 GMT -5
Pretty sure that mic is photoshopped in. But still: |
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Post by dav on Aug 2, 2011 8:09:54 GMT -5
Actually, those were the Joker's men in there. You see them in a scene before kidnapping the reporter and his crew.
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Post by Bobeddy on Aug 2, 2011 9:23:08 GMT -5
The one thing about the Burton/Schumacher Batman movies that I wish would have carried over into Nolan's universe was the fact that you could probably count on one hand the number of scenes that took place in broad daylight. And of those scenes, BATMAN HIMSELF never appeared in one. I mean, it seems antithetical to the entire concept behind the character to have him brawling around in broad daylight. Granted, he's not simply one to just let bad guys have the run of the place simply because the sun is out, but I hate this move as a matter of principle. Hell, it bugged me even seeing Joker traipsing about in the daylight even if it was to blow up a hospital (although I was really more bothered by the fact that he makes his getaway in a school bus full of seemingly non-complicit hospital personnel who seem to either not notice or not care that the hospital bomber is clearly getting into the bus with them). And while I'm on the subject of things that bothered me about TDK, why did Joker {Spoiler}give Batman the wrong addresses for Harvey and Rachel? The whole point of Joker's plan, it seemed, was for Batman to have to CHOOSE either selfishness (insofar as saving Rachel could be called selfish) or selflessness (saving Harvey for the good of Gotham). By giving him bad information, it completely invalidates the point of the exercise at all, since Batman is making his choice on false assumptions. Maybe Joker wanted Harvey to go crazy and corrupt Gotham's white knight by killing his girlfriend, but it still seems ridiculous. Anyway, please ignore my nagging. I've loved these Batman movies so far, and I am absolutely psyched for this. The set pics are working wonders on me right about now, my minor gripes aside. Like you said it was to make Batman make a choice. But by switching them around he gets the last laugh as after making Batman make that decision he ends up giving him the opposite of what he wanted. |
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Post by YellowJacketY2J on Aug 2, 2011 12:23:35 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2011 19:47:15 GMT -5
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 4, 2011 19:48:39 GMT -5
XFL still exists in Dark Knight Rises?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2011 19:55:11 GMT -5
Dammit, I found an awesome caption of that picture on my Tumblr. {Spoiler}  |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Aug 4, 2011 21:38:55 GMT -5
Someone came up with the whole concept that the reason Gordon is in the hospital is because Bane breaks his back. I honestly hope they don't go that route.
If Bane breaks Gordon's back and it causes Batman to "rise" it ruins the whole Knightfall storyline. Bane needs to physically and mentally destroy Batman, thus putting him out of commission and he becomes the "king" of Gotham.
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Post by Michael Coello on Aug 4, 2011 21:41:24 GMT -5
Bane breaks Gordon's back and it causes Batman to "rise" That explains a lot, actually......  |
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Post by Threadkiller [Classic] on Aug 4, 2011 23:56:01 GMT -5
Someone came up with the whole concept that the reason Gordon is in the hospital is because Bane breaks his back. I honestly hope they don't go that route. If Bane breaks Gordon's back and it causes Batman to "rise" it ruins the whole Knightfall storyline. Bane needs to physically and mentally destroy Batman, thus putting him out of commission and he becomes the "king" of Gotham. Have any of the Nolan movies even followed one of the comic book storylines? I don't even think they've been pastiches of the comic book storylines, just vague ideas, from what I've read. But I could be wrong, of course. Either way, I see Nolan using the comic books as a jumping off point to come up with a new story wrapped around the spirit and tone of the same characters and world. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2011 1:27:42 GMT -5
Someone came up with the whole concept that the reason Gordon is in the hospital is because Bane breaks his back. I honestly hope they don't go that route. If Bane breaks Gordon's back and it causes Batman to "rise" it ruins the whole Knightfall storyline. Bane needs to physically and mentally destroy Batman, thus putting him out of commission and he becomes the "king" of Gotham. Have any of the Nolan movies even followed one of the comic book storylines? I don't even think they've been pastiches of the comic book storylines, just vague ideas, from what I've read. But I could be wrong, of course. Either way, I see Nolan using the comic books as a jumping off point to come up with a new story wrapped around the spirit and tone of the same characters and world. Dark Knight basically was Long Halloween with Joker's presence turned way up. |
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Aug 5, 2011 3:32:53 GMT -5
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Aug 5, 2011 3:45:02 GMT -5
beaten i just came to post that... wow
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 5, 2011 3:48:59 GMT -5
Have any of the Nolan movies even followed one of the comic book storylines? I don't even think they've been pastiches of the comic book storylines, just vague ideas, from what I've read. But I could be wrong, of course. Either way, I see Nolan using the comic books as a jumping off point to come up with a new story wrapped around the spirit and tone of the same characters and world. Dark Knight basically was Long Halloween with Joker's presence turned way up. Yeah, pretty much. Dark Knight was Long Halloween without the Holiday Killer, and added in a shit ton more Joker. |
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