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Post by BR329 on Aug 31, 2011 23:02:43 GMT -5
The Air Force Academy would be a better add than SMU. SMU is a wealthier school, true, but the Big 12 doesn't need another Dallas representative. Air Force gets them back into the Colorado market, and they've shown to be better on average. If BYU didn't have a great deal as an independent, they'd have been a better pickup as well. The Big 12, if it wants to survive, needs to look at picking up members that expand their market, not just take up spots. Houston would be better as well, since although it's still Texas, it's a lot bigger Texas market that is more untapped for them. I know there's probably a ton on UT alum up in Dallas but geographically speaking SMU would actually be the only program for to represent Dallas.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 31, 2011 23:32:29 GMT -5
The Air Force Academy would be a better add than SMU. SMU is a wealthier school, true, but the Big 12 doesn't need another Dallas representative. Air Force gets them back into the Colorado market, and they've shown to be better on average. If BYU didn't have a great deal as an independent, they'd have been a better pickup as well. The Big 12, if it wants to survive, needs to look at picking up members that expand their market, not just take up spots. Houston would be better as well, since although it's still Texas, it's a lot bigger Texas market that is more untapped for them. I know there's probably a ton on UT alum up in Dallas but geographically speaking SMU would actually be the only program for to represent Dallas. Baylor is only about 100 miles away (and has a campus there) and SMU doesn't really have a huge following in football anymore. SMU wouldn't help them in that market any more than the existing schools they have.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Aug 31, 2011 23:41:44 GMT -5
The Air Force Academy would be a better add than SMU. SMU is a wealthier school, true, but the Big 12 doesn't need another Dallas representative. Air Force gets them back into the Colorado market, and they've shown to be better on average. If BYU didn't have a great deal as an independent, they'd have been a better pickup as well. The Big 12, if it wants to survive, needs to look at picking up members that expand their market, not just take up spots. Houston would be better as well, since although it's still Texas, it's a lot bigger Texas market that is more untapped for them. There is a Huge UT fanbase in Houston. Made of former Students, Med Students (UT's gigantic medical school is in Galveston) and just fans. As well as Baylor Medical. The one thing that UH has going over SMU is that it is public and is on the verge of Teir 1 status. Right now only UT and the farmers are the only ones at that level in the state. UH and Tech are pushing for the next level.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 23:41:51 GMT -5
4 years ago today:
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Post by Error on Aug 31, 2011 23:44:52 GMT -5
The beginning of the end of Lloyd's career and the future that was FraudRod. Despite being the best program in college football, we'll never live this down.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Aug 31, 2011 23:45:54 GMT -5
That started a crazy season of upsets.
SEC fans can thank Dave Wannstedt for their streak of national titles not halting at one- if Pitt doesn't beat West Virginia, LSU would have headed to a lesser bowl and Les Miles' resume may not look so impressive sans national title.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 31, 2011 23:46:56 GMT -5
Despite being the best program in college football, we'll never live this down. But you're not Alabama, USC, or Oklahoma so you don't have to worry about losing best program ever status.
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Post by Error on Aug 31, 2011 23:51:40 GMT -5
Despite being the best program in college football, we'll never live this down. But you're not Alabama, USC, or Oklahoma so you don't have to worry about losing best program ever status. 11 National titles, the most wins of any team in NCAA history and the best winning percentage in history so yeah, best ever. Oh and the only program that can draw 100,000 every week with no problem.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Aug 31, 2011 23:57:35 GMT -5
If Michigan makes that field goal and doesn't lose to Appy State, is Lloyd Carr still a Michigan man?
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 31, 2011 23:57:54 GMT -5
The Air Force Academy would be a better add than SMU. SMU is a wealthier school, true, but the Big 12 doesn't need another Dallas representative. Air Force gets them back into the Colorado market, and they've shown to be better on average. If BYU didn't have a great deal as an independent, they'd have been a better pickup as well. The Big 12, if it wants to survive, needs to look at picking up members that expand their market, not just take up spots. Houston would be better as well, since although it's still Texas, it's a lot bigger Texas market that is more untapped for them. There is a Huge UT fanbase in Houston. Made of former Students, Med Students (UT's gigantic medical school is in Galveston) and just fans. As well as Baylor Medical. The one thing that UH has going over SMU is that it is public and is on the verge of Teir 1 status. Right now only UT and the farmers are the only ones at that level in the state. UH and Tech are pushing for the next level. Fair enough. But I still don't think SMU adds anything to the Big 12 in terms of market or prestige.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 0:00:13 GMT -5
College Gameday before the App State/Michigan game
Hilarious in Hindsight
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Sept 1, 2011 0:05:13 GMT -5
There is a Huge UT fanbase in Houston. Made of former Students, Med Students (UT's gigantic medical school is in Galveston) and just fans. As well as Baylor Medical. The one thing that UH has going over SMU is that it is public and is on the verge of Teir 1 status. Right now only UT and the farmers are the only ones at that level in the state. UH and Tech are pushing for the next level. Fair enough. But I still don't think SMU adds anything to the Big 12 in terms of market or prestige. Oh they do not. SMU and Houston are good teams but not 10,11,12 team good. They are 13-16 good. But IF Big XII is to survive they need better teams to get back to 12.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 1, 2011 0:06:28 GMT -5
The beginning of the end of Lloyd's career and the future that was FraudRod. Despite being the best program in college football, we'll never live this down. Look at the bright side, when they talk about biggest upsets, Boise State vs. Oklahoma will always be above you guys Sure, APpalachian State was more unexpected, but OU was on a much, much bigger stage.
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Post by Error on Sept 1, 2011 0:07:11 GMT -5
If Michigan makes that field goal and doesn't lose to Appy State, is Lloyd Carr still a Michigan man? Nah, he lasts a few more years and retires instead of being forced into retirement.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 1, 2011 0:16:25 GMT -5
Fair enough. But I still don't think SMU adds anything to the Big 12 in terms of market or prestige. Oh they do not. SMU and Houston are good teams but not 10,11,12 team good. They are 13-16 good. But IF Big XII is to survive they need better teams to get back to 12. Indeed, they also really need to try to expand their market. They're not going to get programs on the caliber of Nebraska to jump from a major conference, most likely, but they can at least get back into those markets that left. I don't think Air Force is of the quality of the teams that left, but at least it's a market they lost.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Sept 1, 2011 0:39:12 GMT -5
Oh they do not. SMU and Houston are good teams but not 10,11,12 team good. They are 13-16 good. But IF Big XII is to survive they need better teams to get back to 12. Indeed, they also really need to try to expand their market. They're not going to get programs on the caliber of Nebraska to jump from a major conference, most likely, but they can at least get back into those markets that left. I don't think Air Force is of the quality of the teams that left, but at least it's a market they lost. It gives a lost market plus it gives OU and Texas games that will be shown arround the world. This will come off crazy, but there were meetings recently when this stuff happened with these three conference presidents. I think the fate of the Big XII rests on how much SEC carves up the ACC. Because Big East, ACC and Big XII could easily merge into two conferences if they are banged up alot. Lets say SEC takes 3 ACC schools. The remining 28 teams get split in two, and tack on 4 more teams ala, BYU, Airforce, ND, Houston, UCF, Memphis, SMU, Tulsa etc. Can split them into Football centric and Basketball centric conference(still play all sports, just the more B-Ball schools are together and the more Football ones are together). Think of Kansas, Duke, UConn, UNC and Syracuse in one conference. Texas, OU,Miami, TCU,BYU, Clemson, WV in another.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Sept 1, 2011 1:53:55 GMT -5
There are some teams where it's easy to play well with the talent surrounding you.
Look at Oklahoma- Landry Jones' number were not exactly a huge decrease from Bradford's.
I could throw for 4,500 yards and 40 TD's if you told me to get the ball to Broyles/Gresham/whoever.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Sept 1, 2011 2:52:46 GMT -5
There are some teams where it's easy to play well with the talent surrounding you. Look at Oklahoma- Landry Jones' number were not exactly a huge decrease from Bradford's. I could throw for 4,500 yards and 40 TD's if you told me to get the ball to Broyles/Gresham/whoever. Yeah. OU is a freaking conveyor belt of talent. Doesn't matter who you put in where, they will have at least some talent in them. It royally pisses me off, because OK State doesn't have that luxury, so when they lose their stars, they dip off a little bit. Granted, the last few years seem to have changed that, because we were easily able to keep on going after losing Zac Robinson and Dez Bryant, by replacing them with Brandon Weeden and Justin Blackmon.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Sept 1, 2011 5:27:41 GMT -5
Is Blackmon better than Bryant was (hell, better than Rashaun Woods)?
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Sept 1, 2011 5:34:26 GMT -5
Is Blackmon better than Bryant was (hell, better than Rashaun Woods)? I don't know yet, really. They seem about equal to me. Let's just put it like this, when Blackmon had to sit out one game last season, it was our lowest scoring game that season. So he's at least a vital part of the offense, that much is certain. He's the deep ball target for Weeden's pro baseball arm.
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