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Post by Brick Killed a Guy on Aug 11, 2011 21:24:32 GMT -5
A&M vs. LSU A&M vs. Bama A&M vs. Arkansas
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 11, 2011 21:32:56 GMT -5
Matt_HayesSN Update: Beginning to look more like a 14th team -- if A&M deal is completed; a big IF -- could be Virginia Tech or Missouri unless OU joins. I heard bout VT not bad, not bad at all
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 11, 2011 21:34:01 GMT -5
I don't get why A&M would want to go to the SEC...
Do they really think they're going to compete there? Even at their best, they'd be going to get stomped by the powerhouses in the conference. And the way they've played in recent years, they're going to be a bottom feeder.
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 11, 2011 21:37:58 GMT -5
I don't get why A&M would want to go to the SEC... Do they really think they're going to compete there? Even at their best, they'd be going to get stomped by the powerhouses in the conference. And the way they've played in recent years, they're going to be a bottom feeder. When UT got their own Network it piss off the rest of the Teams in the Big 12. Its all bout Money
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Post by andrew8798 on Aug 11, 2011 21:42:05 GMT -5
NC State basketball coach Mark Gottfried tweeted that he's heard FSU will be SEC team #14.
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Post by Killah Ray on Aug 11, 2011 21:55:34 GMT -5
I wish Clemson would be the 14th team...making SC and Clemson an already heated rivalry game a conference game (like it used to be) would be great....and they have a pretty consistent football/basketball/baseball program....
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Post by ICBM on Aug 11, 2011 21:58:02 GMT -5
I don't get why A&M would want to go to the SEC... Do they really think they're going to compete there? Even at their best, they'd be going to get stomped by the powerhouses in the conference. And the way they've played in recent years, they're going to be a bottom feeder. First off dude that was pretty insulting and ismissive. They are no Florida or Alabama but Arkansas wasn't Arkansas when they joined in 92 either. Adding A&M gets you a solid reason to recruit and show your team in the market larger than most of the entire gulf coast, Texas. A&M gets an instant rub, the SEC gets bigger, five years hence A&M's recruiting catches up to the rest of the SEC and bam you have a second tier BCS team but it makes more money for A&M and gives more respect to A&M than playing second or third fiddle to TU.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 11, 2011 22:01:11 GMT -5
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Post by ICBM on Aug 11, 2011 22:03:28 GMT -5
Jackrabbit, hope he is OK man. That sucks when an athlete gets sidelined just before a big year.
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Post by Krimzon on Aug 11, 2011 22:11:11 GMT -5
Losing Clemson, V-Tech, or FSU is great news for UNC & NC State. The road to the ACC Championship would be a lot easier.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 11, 2011 22:20:32 GMT -5
I don't get why A&M would want to go to the SEC... Do they really think they're going to compete there? Even at their best, they'd be going to get stomped by the powerhouses in the conference. And the way they've played in recent years, they're going to be a bottom feeder. When UT got their own Network it piss off the rest of the Teams in the Big 12. Its all bout Money I understand why A&M hates UT, and love the fact that schools are firing back at UT for the Longhorn network. Personally, I dont' see how the Longhorn Network will be a success, just like I don't think any tv network based on one team would be a success. I just don't think A&M is making the right decision if they go to the SEC in terms of actually putting themselves in the best situation to win. First off dude that was pretty insulting and ismissive. They are no Florida or Alabama but Arkansas wasn't Arkansas when they joined in 92 either. Adding A&M gets you a solid reason to recruit and show your team in the market larger than most of the entire gulf coast, Texas. A&M gets an instant rub, the SEC gets bigger, five years hence A&M's recruiting catches up to the rest of the SEC and bam you have a second tier BCS team but it makes more money for A&M and gives more respect to A&M than playing second or third fiddle to TU. Honestly, if fans get their panties in a knot because I said I don't think they will be competing in the conference, then that's on them. I'm not going to feel bad for it. Secondly, if they go, it'll help the SEC a lot more than it'll help A&M for that reason, it gives the SEC a Texas component. As for A&M, they're not going to outrecruit Texas in Texas and they're still going to be recruiting against all other SEC teams. As for that aura of being an SEC team giving them that eventual boost, just being in the conference doesn't mean they're going to benefit, they still need to be in a position to compete in it. But in the SEC, I think it'll be hard for A&M to be a middle of the road team without a historic turnaround, and it'll only get harder if the SEC also gets OU. Right now A&M is a middle-of-the-division team in a division with two powerhouses and a 3 teams that can compete on good years. They can crack through in great years, but mostly they're going to be overshadowed. And the SEC is, frankly, just more stacked than the Big 12 in any given year. You can be insulted that I don't believe your team will fly up the ladder like you predict, but I don't see A&M proving me wrong on this. I think they'd be in real danger of turning into the Baylor of the SEC, the team that, even when improved, just isnt' going to match the powerhouse teams of the conference with enough consistency to sustain it. This past decade, they just haven't been able to actually convince me that they'd be competing in the SEC. And before you think I'm picking on poor A&M, I think the same thing of Oklahoma State. I think it'd be disastrous for them to go to the SEC like some are predicting. But by all means, if you think being second or third string to LSU and Auburn is better than being second or third string to OU and Texas, that's fine.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Aug 11, 2011 22:51:05 GMT -5
When UT got their own Network it piss off the rest of the Teams in the Big 12. Its all bout Money I understand why A&M hates UT, and love the fact that schools are firing back at UT for the Longhorn network. Personally, I dont' see how the Longhorn Network will be a success, just like I don't think any tv network based on one team would be a success. I just don't think A&M is making the right decision if they go to the SEC in terms of actually putting themselves in the best situation to win. First off dude that was pretty insulting and ismissive. They are no Florida or Alabama but Arkansas wasn't Arkansas when they joined in 92 either. Adding A&M gets you a solid reason to recruit and show your team in the market larger than most of the entire gulf coast, Texas. A&M gets an instant rub, the SEC gets bigger, five years hence A&M's recruiting catches up to the rest of the SEC and bam you have a second tier BCS team but it makes more money for A&M and gives more respect to A&M than playing second or third fiddle to TU. Honestly, if fans get their panties in a knot because I said I don't think they will be competing in the conference, then that's on them. I'm not going to feel bad for it. Secondly, if they go, it'll help the SEC a lot more than it'll help A&M for that reason, it gives the SEC a Texas component. As for A&M, they're not going to outrecruit Texas in Texas and they're still going to be recruiting against all other SEC teams. As for that aura of being an SEC team giving them that eventual boost, just being in the conference doesn't mean they're going to benefit, they still need to be in a position to compete in it. But in the SEC, I think it'll be hard for A&M to be a middle of the road team without a historic turnaround, and it'll only get harder if the SEC also gets OU. Right now A&M is a middle-of-the-division team in a division with two powerhouses and a 3 teams that can compete on good years. They can crack through in great years, but mostly they're going to be overshadowed. And the SEC is, frankly, just more stacked than the Big 12 in any given year. You can be insulted that I don't believe your team will fly up the ladder like you predict, but I don't see A&M proving me wrong on this. I think they'd be in real danger of turning into the Baylor of the SEC, the team that, even when improved, just isnt' going to match the powerhouse teams of the conference with enough consistency to sustain it. This past decade, they just haven't been able to actually convince me that they'd be competing in the SEC. And before you think I'm picking on poor A&M, I think the same thing of Oklahoma State. I think it'd be disastrous for them to go to the SEC like some are predicting. But by all means, if you think being second or third string to LSU and Auburn is better than being second or third string to OU and Texas, that's fine. LHN as we know it is a failure. Simple, it is a failure. And I bleed orange and I will admit that. The thing is, since even before the Aggie hissy fit, I have had a nagging feeling that the network is not what it looks like on the surface. I know it sounds crazy. But the way things went down last summer and how things are going now it seems like there is a bigger picture that is not being seen.
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Post by Red Impact on Aug 11, 2011 23:00:47 GMT -5
LHN as we know it is a failure. Simple, it is a failure. And I bleed orange and I will admit that. The thing is, since even before the Aggie hissy fit, I have had a nagging feeling that the network is not what it looks like on the surface. I know it sounds crazy. But the way things went down last summer and how things are going now it seems like there is a bigger picture that is not being seen. Honestly, the idea of there being a network devoted to 1 school's sports is just ludicrous to me. Even the most hardcore fans are going to get tired of the novelty quickly. I mean, I could see religious schools getting away with it if they devote most of the time to religious programming to break up reruns of old games and coach's programs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2011 23:05:06 GMT -5
I understand why A&M hates UT, and love the fact that schools are firing back at UT for the Longhorn network. Personally, I dont' see how the Longhorn Network will be a success, just like I don't think any tv network based on one team would be a success. I just don't think A&M is making the right decision if they go to the SEC in terms of actually putting themselves in the best situation to win. Honestly, if fans get their panties in a knot because I said I don't think they will be competing in the conference, then that's on them. I'm not going to feel bad for it. Secondly, if they go, it'll help the SEC a lot more than it'll help A&M for that reason, it gives the SEC a Texas component. As for A&M, they're not going to outrecruit Texas in Texas and they're still going to be recruiting against all other SEC teams. As for that aura of being an SEC team giving them that eventual boost, just being in the conference doesn't mean they're going to benefit, they still need to be in a position to compete in it. But in the SEC, I think it'll be hard for A&M to be a middle of the road team without a historic turnaround, and it'll only get harder if the SEC also gets OU. Right now A&M is a middle-of-the-division team in a division with two powerhouses and a 3 teams that can compete on good years. They can crack through in great years, but mostly they're going to be overshadowed. And the SEC is, frankly, just more stacked than the Big 12 in any given year. You can be insulted that I don't believe your team will fly up the ladder like you predict, but I don't see A&M proving me wrong on this. I think they'd be in real danger of turning into the Baylor of the SEC, the team that, even when improved, just isnt' going to match the powerhouse teams of the conference with enough consistency to sustain it. This past decade, they just haven't been able to actually convince me that they'd be competing in the SEC. And before you think I'm picking on poor A&M, I think the same thing of Oklahoma State. I think it'd be disastrous for them to go to the SEC like some are predicting. But by all means, if you think being second or third string to LSU and Auburn is better than being second or third string to OU and Texas, that's fine. LHN as we know it is a failure. Simple, it is a failure. And I bleed orange and I will admit that. The thing is, since even before the Aggie hissy fit, I have had a nagging feeling that the network is not what it looks like on the surface. I know it sounds crazy. But the way things went down last summer and how things are going now it seems like there is a bigger picture that is not being seen.So that's what the Nexus was up to!
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Post by Krimzon on Aug 11, 2011 23:06:36 GMT -5
LHN as we know it is a failure. Simple, it is a failure. And I bleed orange and I will admit that. The thing is, since even before the Aggie hissy fit, I have had a nagging feeling that the network is not what it looks like on the surface. I know it sounds crazy. But the way things went down last summer and how things are going now it seems like there is a bigger picture that is not being seen.So that's what the Nexus was up to! It all makes sense now...
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Aug 11, 2011 23:11:17 GMT -5
LHN as we know it is a failure. Simple, it is a failure. And I bleed orange and I will admit that. The thing is, since even before the Aggie hissy fit, I have had a nagging feeling that the network is not what it looks like on the surface. I know it sounds crazy. But the way things went down last summer and how things are going now it seems like there is a bigger picture that is not being seen. Honestly, the idea of there being a network devoted to 1 school's sports is just ludicrous to me. Even the most hardcore fans are going to get tired of the novelty quickly. I mean, I could see religious schools getting away with it if they devote most of the time to religious programming to break up reruns of old games and coach's programs. It is ridiculous, and I am not arguing that. But there is a clause that the LHN contract can be altered/ removed if UT goes to another conference. PAC said they will not take UT as the network is now. And it goes on, mainly the perception as to who jumps first. If A jumps first they get the heat. If A drives B to jump, the heat falls on B so that A can go where they really want. And I have never had the feeling that UT wants Independence, the network, at least how it has seemed for months is a shame to make someone else jump to a 12 team conference.
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Post by BR329 on Aug 12, 2011 1:48:34 GMT -5
NC State basketball coach Mark Gottfried tweeted that he's heard FSU will be SEC team #14. Miami is going to be pissed.
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Post by MGH on Aug 12, 2011 9:12:24 GMT -5
Damn Slim, I'm sorry man...
schadjoe Arkansas confirms Knile Davis (ankle) who has 1,485 rushing yards and scored 17 TDs out for season
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2011 9:37:53 GMT -5
The Big 12, with their last-ditch plans to keep their top instituion (figuratively speaking) failed, can now be described as "dead" (yes, I know it's been said before, but because Texas A&M is going to move to the SEC, other schools will want to follow suit). It's just a matter of time before we decide who goes where. If Longhorn Network is cancelled before it even airs, then that means that Texas now has nothing worth sticking around in this conference. As much as I can't stand institutions that want to have their conferences cater to them at the expense of others, the bottom line is that, without a network or a conference championship, the Big 12 is just Texas, Oklahoma, and the rest, and that's a shame, because it just means that schools like Iowa State would be doomed to be bottom-feeders unless they move to another conference. Looks like the Pac-16 might end up happening after all, because I don't think the Big 12 will want to patch up their conference with schools like Houston and Rice.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Aug 12, 2011 9:41:20 GMT -5
The Big 12, with their last-ditch plans to keep their top instituion (figuratively speaking) failed, can now be described as "dead" (yes, I know it's been said before, but because Texas A&M is going to move to the SEC, other schools will want to follow suit). It's just a matter of time before we decide who goes where. If Longhorn Network is cancelled before it even airs, then that means that Texas now has nothing worth sticking around in this conference. As much as I can't stand institutions that want to have their conferences cater to them at the expense of others, the bottom line is that, without a network or a conference championship, the Big 12 is just Texas, Oklahoma, and the rest, and that's a shame, because it just means that schools like Iowa State would be doomed to be bottom-feeders unless they move to another conference. Looks like the Pac-16 might end up happening after all, because I don't think the Big 12 will want to patch up their conference with schools like Houston and Rice. Houston and Rice would not be the first choice as the rumors have it as Memphis, Louisville, TCU, Air Force, BYU etc... Houston would be a team to get them to the 14 level and not the 10/12 levels. And Rice makes Baylor look big.
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