Zone Was Wrong
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Nov 20, 2020 16:47:15 GMT -5
I actually kind of dug that if Dean was going to die, after everything he'd been through, it'd be to something simple and random. Not Chuck, not leviathans, not Billie... something you can't prepare for; something a human would die from. It struck a chord with me. In a perfect world, they would have shut the trunk of the impala and rode off into the sunset to carry on (no pun intended) with their journey, running the family business. But that's kind of too easy for this show, and I get that. Each of them got what they wanted, but with a catch. It felt appropriate in a way. And I loved that, outside of Bobby for a minute or two, the episode was only Sam and Dean. For me, the show has always been about them. There are many others along the way that I grew to really care for, and see as family the way the brothers did, but ultimately this is their story. It started with just them, and it should end with just them. I'm going to miss this show immensely. Honestly, kinda makes sense too. Chuck throughout the show basically gave them plot armor. Without Chuck to write the story, no more plot armor. This show has always had these meta like moments, aand I think it fit perfectly here. That one last "Carry on..." was the cherry on top for me.
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kimrey
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Post by kimrey on Nov 22, 2020 10:26:30 GMT -5
I didn’t know this thread existed here!
Supernatural has been a huge part of my life for 15 years. I’ve been watching live every week since the pilot aired. I was still a teenager when it started and I’m in my thirties now, so I’ve spent my entire adult life with this show.
That finale broke me. I’m still processing it. In my perfect world I would have ended it at 19, having the boys be together and happy and realizing their life is theirs now and driving off into the sunset. After that episode I was almost mad that there was one more because I knew they were going to take that all away.
I’m strictly a brothers fan. Sam and Dean are my reason for watching this show. All the side characters I could take or leave and Cas has really been a sour point for me for a long time. I had known Misha wasn’t around when they came back to film the last two episodes in August, so I knew he wouldn’t be in the finale. I was completely fine with that. The show went out the way it started, with the brothers. If I had a say in it, Sam and Dean would have died on that hunt and gone to heaven together. It’s so, completely heartbreaking to me that Sam lived so long without Dean and Dean died so young. Yes, Sam was able to move on, but they made it clear that he never really did. That flash forward made it clear to me that he was just waiting to be reunited with Dean.
The barn scene was beautifully tragic. Jared and Jensen will never get the recognition they deserve for how good they are. The bridge scene was beautiful and Dean’s smile when he sensed Sam was back with him was perfect. Those two barely said anything there, but said so much.
I’m sure they’ll come back to this show for a reboot of some sort sometime. I’m surprised they didn’t leave it more open for that. So it will be interesting to see what they do when the time comes.
Sorry this was a long. I’m sad I didn’t now about this post until now.
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Post by King Boo on Nov 22, 2020 16:45:34 GMT -5
I didn’t know this thread existed here! Supernatural has been a huge part of my life for 15 years. I’ve been watching live every week since the pilot aired. I was still a teenager when it started and I’m in my thirties now, so I’ve spent my entire adult life with this show. That finale broke me. I’m still processing it. In my perfect world I would have ended it at 19, having the boys be together and happy and realizing their life is theirs now and driving off into the sunset. After that episode I was almost mad that there was one more because I knew they were going to take that all away. I’m strictly a brothers fan. Sam and Dean are my reason for watching this show. All the side characters I could take or leave and Cas has really been a sour point for me for a long time. I had known Misha wasn’t around when they came back to film the last two episodes in August, so I knew he wouldn’t be in the finale. I was completely fine with that. The show went out the way it started, with the brothers. If I had a say in it, Sam and Dean would have died on that hunt and gone to heaven together. It’s so, completely heartbreaking to me that Sam lived so long without Dean and Dean died so young. Yes, Sam was able to move on, but they made it clear that he never really did. That flash forward made it clear to me that he was just waiting to be reunited with Dean. The barn scene was beautifully tragic. Jared and Jensen will never get the recognition they deserve for how good they are. The bridge scene was beautiful and Dean’s smile when he sensed Sam was back with him was perfect. Those two barely said anything there, but said so much. I’m sure they’ll come back to this show for a reboot of some sort sometime. I’m surprised they didn’t leave it more open for that. So it will be interesting to see what they do when the time comes. Sorry this was a long. I’m sad I didn’t now about this post until now. I like Cas but it was clear seasons ago that the character had run its course. Even though I knew they didn't have the guts, when they "killed" him at the end of season 12, I was more than ready for it to stick. TBH, I felt some of the show got a bit swallowed by the angel storylines, which started seeming like they were written in order to keep Cas involved. This has nothing to do with Misha's performance (no one else could be Cas, imo), or even who the character actually is; it's more about what the character's presence started to become to the show and some of its fans. I watch things in my own way and try not to let other voices ruin my enjoyment, but I will admit that some of the die hard Cas fans are a complete turn off because they treat the show like it's his story and not Sam and Dean's. There was going to be no pleasing them with how the series ended, because it wasn't about Castiel. For someone like me, who remembers and loves that the show is and always has been about the Winchesters, it was what I wanted it to be. For whatever the reasons Misha couldn't be around to film the last two episodes, I think things worked out the way they were supposed to. He wasn't there at the start of the brother's story; he shouldn't be there at the end. In my heart, I wanted the boys to be happy and together and alive, but that's because I care about them. I see what the writers were going for with how they ended things, and it's part of why I love the finale more the longer I marinate in it. There's a simple beauty in it all.
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kimrey
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Post by kimrey on Nov 22, 2020 19:43:03 GMT -5
Cas’s story ran it’s course a long time ago. I was already over the character, but I was absolutely done when he said yes to Lucifer back in season 11. I could go on an extremely long rant about that, but I’ll save you all from it! Don’t even get me started on some of the Cas fans or certain shippers. They’ve been a big reason why I don’t like him. They’re taking it upon themselves to downvote any poll associated with the finale by making new accounts. They’re making sure it has the lowest IMDB rating of any episode. It’s so childish. He had his conclusion. As much as I rolled my eyes, he got the ending to his story. Sam and Dean got the next two episodes, as they should have.
...and same. I love Sam and Dean so much. It’s hard for me to process their fates going in different directions. I’m glad they kept Sam’s wife ambiguous. I had a hard time with the Eileen stuff this season because it felt so shoehorned in. Romance is not something I ever wanted to see on Supernatural, so even though Sam met someone and had a kid, they didn’t focus on that person (literally). I found it pretty interesting that his wife wasn’t there at his deathbed in the flash forward. As for Dean, it’s kinda funny that Bobby told him his parents were so close and he still decided to get in his car and drive, seemingly until he found Sam. It’s like they both were just waiting for each other in their different circumstances and that’s beautiful.
Yeah, the more I let it sink in, the more I think I loved it.
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Post by King Boo on Nov 22, 2020 20:17:05 GMT -5
It's one you have to think about just a little, to get past the idea of Dean dying. In the immediate moment, through my tears, I said "what the f***, show?!" but that was just because emotionally, I didn't want to see it. It didn't help that Dean's always been my favorite character in the whole show. But after my ugly crying, I was able to take in what the show was saying, and, honestly, it sticks with me.
People say they would have loved "Swan Song" as a finale, but between the two, I'm much happier with "Carry On". I wasn't huge into "Swan Song" to begin with, and now having an actual series finale to compare it to hasn't changed anything. The message in "Carry On" was way more poignant for me. And happier, really, when you stop and think about it.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Nov 23, 2020 1:20:39 GMT -5
Cas’s story ran it’s course a long time ago. I was already over the character, but I was absolutely done when he said yes to Lucifer back in season 11. I could go on an extremely long rant about that, but I’ll save you all from it! Don’t even get me started on some of the Cas fans or certain shippers. They’ve been a big reason why I don’t like him. They’re taking it upon themselves to downvote any poll associated with the finale by making new accounts. They’re making sure it has the lowest IMDB rating of any episode. It’s so childish. He had his conclusion. As much as I rolled my eyes, he got the ending to his story. Sam and Dean got the next two episodes, as they should have. ...and same. I love Sam and Dean so much. It’s hard for me to process their fates going in different directions. I’m glad they kept Sam’s wife ambiguous. I had a hard time with the Eileen stuff this season because it felt so shoehorned in. Romance is not something I ever wanted to see on Supernatural, so even though Sam met someone and had a kid, they didn’t focus on that person (literally). I found it pretty interesting that his wife wasn’t there at his deathbed in the flash forward. As for Dean, it’s kinda funny that Bobby told him his parents were so close and he still decided to get in his car and drive, seemingly until he found Sam. It’s like they both were just waiting for each other in their different circumstances and that’s beautiful. Yeah, the more I let it sink in, the more I think I loved it. Oh yeah, the IMDB crap is so freaking stupid & lame & like you said, childish. Obviously, you ain't gonna please everyone...though, tbf, most of the critic & fan reactions I've seen have been positive. But, there's always those people who feel that if a finale isn't 100% how they want it to go, than it's the worst thing ever.
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Bobeddy
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Post by Bobeddy on Nov 23, 2020 4:17:29 GMT -5
Between the last two episodes I liked the ending overall. To me it was fitting for the brothers to get the ending it did.
The show could've very easily ended with the brothers alive and riding into the sunset, with the implied opportunity and promise of life ahead of them. And that would've been nice. But once credits hit, that story could've been 5 minutes later getting offed by a monster, or them in their 70's getting torn apart from vengeful demons. How many hunters have we seen go on to have long happy lives post-hunting? This way we removed that doubt, Sam got his long happy life and then went on to join Dean.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 25, 2020 17:04:10 GMT -5
Here we are almost a week later, and Supernatural is trending, and not for something that fans are happy about.
Apparently the Spanish dub (which is based off the original script) had Dean confessing that he loved Cas in Cas's last episode. It has pissed people off that it was changed in the final script/English version. So, it would have confirmed Dean as bi. It would make sense, The Empty said he would take Cas when Cas was happy, Cas said he loved Dean, it would make Cas happy if Dean admitted he loved Cas.
I didn't ship Dean and Cas, but it's a shitty thing to do to have this emotional reveal, and then say "Eh, f*** it, we're changing it."
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Post by King Boo on Nov 25, 2020 18:14:45 GMT -5
*shrug* I loved the last few episodes. "Destiel" isn't a thing for me; I don't need Cas to "be in love" with Dean in a romantic way or for Dean to be bi. That's not something the show ever did or even alluded to; that's something some fans very loudly and very aggressively projected onto the show. It's a shame that everything this show, and its last few episodes, said and were is being clouded by this, but whatever; it doesn't change how I feel.
And telling someone you love them isn't always about romance, but I digress.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 30, 2020 3:14:08 GMT -5
Guess what show that ended this year put their final episodes of on Netflix. That's right, Agents of SHIELD's final season is on Netflix. Also they just added the final episodes of the show that gave us Biggerson's, Supernatural.
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Post by King Boo on May 25, 2021 12:20:37 GMT -5
My complete series blu-ray set arrived today! I may have done a little dance.
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