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Post by Error on Jul 24, 2012 20:46:52 GMT -5
Bummer, I liked 'Dinger. Be nice if they would disclose what the positive was actually for, though. And I do agree with what they were saying about it potentially being from a supplement... Talking to the guy that owns my local GNC... a lot of the new stuff has a TON of dodgy amphetamines in it, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if it was some NO Explode or something or other causing it. Dinger (or his people) leaked that it was a stimulant and they were going to have his medications and supplements tested. Problem is, even if it was a legit RX from a legit doc, you still have to notify NASCAR and get it okayed from them.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Jul 24, 2012 23:14:48 GMT -5
Well, some food for thought...
A.J. Allmendinger has two options...
1) Complete NASCAR's mandated treatment program, which is approximately five months, and apply to be reinstated. 2) Take a legal stance, ala Jeremy Mayfield. Depending on the substances involved, it may or may not prove to be more fruitful than Mayfield.
Should INDYCAR allow him to drive and he wants to go back there, he has a couple options...
1) Drive for the Texan, who is finally, after years and years, having a more or less successful program with Mike Conway and has a car available, since he wanted to run two at Indianapolis this year.
2) Step in with his pals at Shank Racing (he's part owner), which didn't start the season due to lack of engines. He might wait until 2013 with MSR, or he might be able to get another engine since they're becoming available at this time (see also: Saavadra, Sebastian and AA @ Sonoma).
Should he choose to return to open wheel, I don't see him with a top flight team right away. Ganassi is full, Penske is full (unless Briscoe is dismissed, which is a possibility, though a small one, I'd say), and AA is clicking on all cylinders except for Marco. There's also the stigma of him being a NASCAR washout due to substance abuse.
However...if he chooses to fight it legally (and is in the right), can clear his name, and produces results, he could easily, and very likely, wind up with a top flight team by 2014 if he chose to stay in the IICS. He lit the world up in '06 with Gerry Forsythe in the CCWS, and god knows the IICS could use another competitive driver from the United States.
Should be interesting to see how this pans out.
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Post by Error on Jul 25, 2012 14:06:23 GMT -5
AJ is going to enter NASCAR's Road to Recovery program and waive his rights to appeal. The word on Twitter is he was "a few nanograms over the acceptable amount of stimulants" and is hiring a team to test all his meds, supplements and ingestables from his home and bus to find out what happened.
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Post by BR329 on Jul 25, 2012 14:10:12 GMT -5
Nice to see him go to the program rather then the Mayfield approach. Still he's pretty much screwed in Nascar. The best ride he could after he completes the program is probably with Front Row.
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Post by Burst on Jul 25, 2012 15:01:18 GMT -5
It's actually kind of crazy to see how far Mayfield has fallen. I remember flipping through one of my old NASCAR Preview and Press Guides from 1999 or so when he was driving for Penske and everybody thought he was going to be huge.
I think at least as far as legacy goes he's fallen even further than other prospects that wound up washing out like Casey Atwood and Buckshot Jones.
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Post by Big Daddy Bad Booking on Jul 25, 2012 17:50:56 GMT -5
It's actually kind of crazy to see how far Mayfield has fallen. I remember flipping through one of my old NASCAR Preview and Press Guides from 1999 or so when he was driving for Penske and everybody thought he was going to be huge. I think at least as far as legacy goes he's fallen even further than other prospects that wound up washing out like Casey Atwood and Buckshot Jones. Mayfield's downfall began in 2006 where apparently he was fixing his own races, i.e: doing badly on purpose for then-owner Ray Evernham. I know he was just in that jobber Toyota team then failed the drug test. In 1998, Mayfield was one of the few who took on Jeff Gordon toe-to-toe and won (Pocono in June), and he looked to be Superman.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jul 28, 2012 8:04:04 GMT -5
Lewis Hamilton on pole in Hungary, from Romain Grosjean and Sebastien Vettel.
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Post by triplethreatmark on Jul 29, 2012 14:01:46 GMT -5
Lewis Hamilton on pole in Hungary, from Romain Grosjean and Sebastien Vettel. Just the top 10 results here: 1. Hamilton (FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF............) 2. Raikkonen (*insert Daniel Bryan YES! gif. here*) 3. Grosjean (see above) 4. Vettel 5. Alonso 6. Button 7. Bruno Senna 8. Webber 9. Massa 10. Hulkenberg I'm pissed that Hamilton and McLaren won the race but I'm very satisfied that Team Lotus ended up second and third. Also pretty happy Alonso finished ahead of Webber to keep the points lead heading into the big break.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jul 29, 2012 14:04:02 GMT -5
Get in..Good to see Mclaren back on form Glad to see Schumacher have a bad race awell . Just piss off back into retirement already
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Post by triplethreatmark on Jul 29, 2012 14:07:40 GMT -5
As an aside, can I just say that Hungary has the hottest flag/trophy girls I've seen so far this season. I don't know if it was the dresses they were wearing or if their butts were that magnificent but the times I saw them I was blown away.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 15:29:29 GMT -5
JJ kisses the bricks at Indy
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Post by deafangelboy23 on Jul 29, 2012 15:33:17 GMT -5
I thought it was interesting to see the lack of crowd for Brickyard 400.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Jul 29, 2012 15:46:33 GMT -5
I thought it was interesting to see the lack of crowd for Brickyard 400. Yeah...that could be REALLY bad news for this race. Crowds have been getting worse and worse for several years, particularly since the tire fiasco in '08. NASCAR doesn't release attendance figures, but I recall Cavin saying that they needed at least 110,000 paid on race day to break even on the event. This was before you curtailed attendance in the infield due to sports cars and added expenses for their support races (Grand Am and Nationwide don't come free or even cheap). Since the Visionary Tony George is no longer on the IMS Board of Directors, its anyone's guess how long the Speedway will subsidize the race in light of the dwindling attendance and NASCAR's sanctioning fee, poor TV ratings, and NASCAR hilariously misguided marketing and commercialization of the race. (Crown Royal Presents the Cutlass Shavers 400 at the Brickyard? Man, that's a mouthful.)
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Post by deafangelboy23 on Jul 29, 2012 16:23:56 GMT -5
I thought it was interesting to see the lack of crowd for Brickyard 400. Yeah...that could be REALLY bad news for this race. Crowds have been getting worse and worse for several years, particularly since the tire fiasco in '08. NASCAR doesn't release attendance figures, but I recall Cavin saying that they needed at least 110,000 paid on race day to break even on the event. This was before you curtailed attendance in the infield due to sports cars and added expenses for their support races (Grand Am and Nationwide don't come free or even cheap). Since the Visionary Tony George is no longer on the IMS Board of Directors, its anyone's guess how long the Speedway will subsidize the race in light of the dwindling attendance and NASCAR's sanctioning fee, poor TV ratings, and NASCAR hilariously misguided marketing and commercialization of the race. (Crown Royal Presents the Cutlass Shavers 400 at the Brickyard? Man, that's a mouthful.) You mean Crown Royal Presents the Curtiss Shaver 400 at the Brickyard? Apparently Curtiss Shaver was the fan who won the contest for being a hero. He had a very interesting background so Crown Royal decided to name the race after him. ESPN don't care about the full name instead they just labeled it as The Brickyard 400.
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Post by BR329 on Jul 29, 2012 17:21:47 GMT -5
I thought it was interesting to see the lack of crowd for Brickyard 400. Yeah...that could be REALLY bad news for this race. Crowds have been getting worse and worse for several years, particularly since the tire fiasco in '08. NASCAR doesn't release attendance figures, but I recall Cavin saying that they needed at least 110,000 paid on race day to break even on the event. This was before you curtailed attendance in the infield due to sports cars and added expenses for their support races (Grand Am and Nationwide don't come free or even cheap). Since the Visionary Tony George is no longer on the IMS Board of Directors, its anyone's guess how long the Speedway will subsidize the race in light of the dwindling attendance and NASCAR's sanctioning fee, poor TV ratings, and NASCAR hilariously misguided marketing and commercialization of the race. (Crown Royal Presents the Cutlass Shavers 400 at the Brickyard? Man, that's a mouthful.) According to Jeff Gluck they had 125,000 there today but watching the race todat I highly doubt that. Honestly I just don't see this race lasting much longer which is sad because 5 years ago it nearly drew as many fans as the 500. But after 08 I can't blame people from staying away. That and the racing here just sucks (for stock cars atleast)
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Post by Error on Jul 29, 2012 17:28:42 GMT -5
Yeah...that could be REALLY bad news for this race. Crowds have been getting worse and worse for several years, particularly since the tire fiasco in '08. NASCAR doesn't release attendance figures, but I recall Cavin saying that they needed at least 110,000 paid on race day to break even on the event. This was before you curtailed attendance in the infield due to sports cars and added expenses for their support races (Grand Am and Nationwide don't come free or even cheap). Since the Visionary Tony George is no longer on the IMS Board of Directors, its anyone's guess how long the Speedway will subsidize the race in light of the dwindling attendance and NASCAR's sanctioning fee, poor TV ratings, and NASCAR hilariously misguided marketing and commercialization of the race. (Crown Royal Presents the Cutlass Shavers 400 at the Brickyard? Man, that's a mouthful.) According to Jeff Gluck they had 125,000 there today but watching the race todat I highly doubt that. Honestly I just don't see this race lasting much longer which is sad because 5 years ago it nearly drew as many fans as the 500. But after 08 I can't blame people from staying away. That and the racing here just sucks (for stock cars atleast) Pretty much. Gluck is pretty good when it comes to guessing attendance but I'd guess he got that number from NASCAR. What really sucks is they took NNS from ORP which was good, moved it to Indy to help the 400 and completely blew it.
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Post by BR329 on Jul 29, 2012 17:33:32 GMT -5
According to Jeff Gluck they had 125,000 there today but watching the race todat I highly doubt that. Honestly I just don't see this race lasting much longer which is sad because 5 years ago it nearly drew as many fans as the 500. But after 08 I can't blame people from staying away. That and the racing here just sucks (for stock cars atleast) Pretty much. Gluck is pretty good when it comes to guessing attendance but I'd guess he got that number from NASCAR. What really sucks is they took NNS from ORP which was good, moved it to Indy to help the 400 and completely blew it. Yeah that was BS, IRP was a staple of the NNS and Truck schedule and it has to be on there. That and they drew 40,000 yesterday. That's pathetic. That clusterf*** Brian Barnhardt esque finish yesterday was karma for moving it. Also Curt Cavin (works for the star up in Indy) estimates 100,000 today. He's usually pretty spot on but either number is not good.
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Post by The Booty Disciple on Jul 29, 2012 17:40:33 GMT -5
If it was only 100,000, you can damn well bet a lot of them were not PAID attendees. I'd estimate 8-10% were there through promo, sponsor, or VIP packages, and with infield being partially taken up leading to lower hospitality, that sounds pretty grim on gate sales for the grandstand.
Even at 125,000, like you said, BR...that's not good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2012 19:34:29 GMT -5
I always enjoy the leaps that ESPN makes to tack on the history of the Indianapolis 500 to the Brickyard 400. And by enjoy I mean throw a brick through the TV.
Thought it was a decent race at the end even though no one was catching Johnson. Though my enjoyment of the end could be because I usually only watch 2 NASCAR races a year, along with the Daytona 500, so it didn't seem as tedious as it might for someone who watches every race.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jul 31, 2012 22:30:30 GMT -5
Watched the Ayrton Senna documentary on ESPN2 Sunday night for the first time. All I have to say is this.
Wow.
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