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Post by froggyfrog on Apr 1, 2012 0:14:09 GMT -5
Gotta agree with the guy saying Jigsaw is Chikaras most known guy other than Kingston and Quadk. Hell Jig is booked on outside indys more than both of them. Wicked is prob 4th after those guys followed by Akuma
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Apr 1, 2012 0:16:23 GMT -5
Wicked may have gotten big reactions for one off appearances in other promotions, but Jigsaw appears more often and more frequently in other promotions than him, and has been a regular (or at least semi-regular) in several large independent promotions As other people have brought up, it's not the appearances they make in other promotions, it's the reputation they have while competing there. Wicked is generally well respected among fans of other promotions. Jigsaw is known for being the guy who took his mask off because Julius Smokes said it was a good idea. And I'm not saying that as the Number 1 Jigsaw Hater in the forum, that's a legitimate point. Jigsaw's biggest claim to fame is showing his mug to the public and be greeted with pointing and laughter. Outside of his Quackenpush in Chikara, what else has he done? Take Fred Ottman for example. He has wrestled as Tugboat and Typhoon. He was Hulk Hogan's best buddy. He's been one half of the tag champs. He's wrestled in every major PPV the WWF put on in the early 90's. But what is he known for? Falling flat on his face and losing his purple glitter helmet. The same applies to Jiggy.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Apr 1, 2012 1:02:09 GMT -5
I would go to Chikarasaurus Rex, but I made a personal vow to never EVER step foot in Philadelphia.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Apr 1, 2012 1:43:12 GMT -5
Wicked may have gotten big reactions for one off appearances in other promotions, but Jigsaw appears more often and more frequently in other promotions than him, and has been a regular (or at least semi-regular) in several large independent promotions As other people have brought up, it's not the appearances they make in other promotions, it's the reputation they have while competing there. Wicked is generally well respected among fans of other promotions. Jigsaw is known for being the guy who took his mask off because Julius Smokes said it was a good idea. And I'm not saying that as the Number 1 Jigsaw Hater in the forum, that's a legitimate point. Jigsaw's biggest claim to fame is showing his mug to the public and be greeted with pointing and laughter. Outside of his Quackenpush in Chikara, what else has he done? Take Fred Ottman for example. He has wrestled as Tugboat and Typhoon. He was Hulk Hogan's best buddy. He's been one half of the tag champs. He's wrestled in every major PPV the WWF put on in the early 90's. But what is he known for? Falling flat on his face and losing his purple glitter helmet. The same applies to Jiggy. it was Gabe's, not Julius', idea for him to take off his mask, which his not his biggest claim to fame. i'll even go out on a limb and say people care about him taking his mask off as much as they do the fact Rey Mysterio wrestled sans mask over a decade ago, which is very little. if Jigsaw's career was to end today, his biggest claim to fame as viewed by the average (non-CHIKARA) fan would be being Quack's tag team partner
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Post by Error on Apr 1, 2012 1:55:16 GMT -5
New blog from Gran Akuma:
3/30/2012: When it was decided that I'd have to endure a "Trial Series" to get back into CHIKARA (and in turn, to get my hands in Icarus,) a lot of people thought I'd be upset. Here I am, one of the guys CHIKARA was built on, a "Gen 1" guy (or whatever it is they started calling us in my absence,) and I have to earn my spot all over again? People told me it was ridiculous. They told me Icarus was just running scared. While these are certainly valid points, it's really only half the story. Back at "Chikarasaurus Rex: King of Show," the guys who were supposed to be like brothers to me cast me out as the "weak link" and beat me down. The guy I fought beside for seven years spiked me on my head with a Pedigree and left me for dead. As strange as this might sound to some, the beatdown isn't the thing that hurt. Truth be told, I've been beat down before and I'll get beat down again. I knew that was part of the deal when I first climbed into a ring. This is about something that cuts much deeper.
Weak. Link.
I didn't return to CHIKARA for the simple purpose of beating Icarus into a thin paste. I could have done that in a parking lot. I came back to show Icarus, the rest of F.I.S.T.,and the entire world what I'm made of. I came back fully healed, in the best shape of my life, and with more than a few new tricks up my sleeve. I am back with a mission to reclaim my lost honor (the pride-in-yourself kind, not the hand-shaking kind,) and I don't care who stands in my way.
When it was announced that my first "trial" would be Chuck Taylor, I couldn't have been more pleased. Not only did I pass my first test with flying colors, but one of the guys who put me out to pasture found out that the Gran Akuma they sent packing and the Gran Akuma they're dealing with now are two completely different animals. And I'm more than ready for my next challenge.
Just when I expected to get my hands on Johnny Gargano, it turns out my "Trial Series" will instead pit me against Greg Iron. I don't have a personal issue with you, Greg. You feel disrespected, and I get that. Greg has absolutely nothing to do with any of this - this is Icarus manipulating things to his advantage. Greg was simply an innocent bystander. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. And yes, I did kick him square in the skull at "High Noon." I was the first to admit that I screwed up, and I thought Greg understood that. The target was Icarus, but the victim was Iron.
What happened at "High Noon" between you and I was a mistake, Greg. But it's different this time around. My career is on the line in Rahway. If I lose, I'm gone. That can't happen. Icarus, the manipulator and traitor, the man who just lost the Campeonatos de Parejas for F.I.S.T. but thinks someone else is the "weak link" needs to be silenced. He needs his comeuppance. And Greg, you're in my way. I expressed my remorse after what happened at "High Noon." I meant you no disrespect. But the people that get in my way...have to go down.
GA
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 1, 2012 2:04:40 GMT -5
While I will say, I'm not that heavy into the GEKIDO thing, that blog just SOLD the Akuma/FIST storyline to me.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 1, 2012 2:10:25 GMT -5
Also, not to double post, and not really the place for this, but these threads have been great for EWR names before. Anybody got any ideas for a stable name for Sami Callihan, Jon Moxley, and Vin Gerard?
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Apr 1, 2012 2:20:02 GMT -5
The Switchblade Amigos The Horror Movie Loving, Heath Ledger Joker Copying, Dirty Filthy Hobos
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Apr 1, 2012 2:23:49 GMT -5
The Switchblade Amigos The Horror Movie Loving, Heath Ledger Joker Copying, Dirty Filthy Hobos ...Dammit, I HAVE to use Switchblade Amigos now.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Apr 1, 2012 3:29:29 GMT -5
As other people have brought up, it's not the appearances they make in other promotions, it's the reputation they have while competing there. Wicked is generally well respected among fans of other promotions. Jigsaw is known for being the guy who took his mask off because Julius Smokes said it was a good idea. And I'm not saying that as the Number 1 Jigsaw Hater in the forum, that's a legitimate point. Jigsaw's biggest claim to fame is showing his mug to the public and be greeted with pointing and laughter. Outside of his Quackenpush in Chikara, what else has he done? Take Fred Ottman for example. He has wrestled as Tugboat and Typhoon. He was Hulk Hogan's best buddy. He's been one half of the tag champs. He's wrestled in every major PPV the WWF put on in the early 90's. But what is he known for? Falling flat on his face and losing his purple glitter helmet. The same applies to Jiggy. it was Gabe's, not Julius', idea for him to take off his mask, which his not his biggest claim to fame. i'll even go out on a limb and say people care about him taking his mask off as much as they do the fact Rey Mysterio wrestled sans mask over a decade ago, which is very little. if Jigsaw's career was to end today, his biggest claim to fame as viewed by the average (non-CHIKARA) fan would be being Quack's tag team partner Uh huh...
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Post by froggyfrog on Apr 1, 2012 3:40:55 GMT -5
I would go to Chikarasaurus Rex, but I made a personal vow to never EVER step foot in Philadelphia. The best city in the world too good for ya?
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Apr 1, 2012 4:42:05 GMT -5
it was Gabe's, not Julius', idea for him to take off his mask, which his not his biggest claim to fame. i'll even go out on a limb and say people care about him taking his mask off as much as they do the fact Rey Mysterio wrestled sans mask over a decade ago, which is very little. if Jigsaw's career was to end today, his biggest claim to fame as viewed by the average (non-CHIKARA) fan would be being Quack's tag team partner Uh huh... like anyone cares what a hobo thinks
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Apr 1, 2012 9:32:48 GMT -5
like anyone cares what a hobo thinks Now that's just uncalled for.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Apr 1, 2012 13:38:51 GMT -5
GEKIDO is intriguing, if nothing else. I'm curious what it's leading to. Also, it's a very CHIKARA type story, centering around things like wrestling holds. Territory Era thoughts being used nowadays is pretty cool. I don't know why more people don't focus stories around moves much anymore. Thing is, though, it's almost the ONLY story Chikara's told, at least since the KOW story really got rolling. KOW=Chikara Special story built around the giant stable, BDK=REVERSE Chikara Special, built around a giant stable. Now we've got GEKIDO, which isn't a giant stable yet, but has the potential to be, and again, it's based around a wrestling move. I'm not saying it's bad, it's just a little....old hat. To be fair, King vs Claudio was going to last all of last year but he got signed by the E. Then it was going to be King vs Brodie but he got injured. When he gets back he gets signed by the E. The two main title feuds for Chikara got dead pretty quick.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Apr 1, 2012 13:53:08 GMT -5
like anyone cares what a hobo thinks Now that's just uncalled for. *looks at name* ...i knew it
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Apr 2, 2012 0:31:34 GMT -5
Now that's just uncalled for. *looks at name* ...i knew it Knew what?
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Post by The Spelunker! on Apr 2, 2012 0:38:24 GMT -5
Your name yesterday was Vin Gerard.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Apr 2, 2012 0:43:29 GMT -5
Your name yesterday was Vin Gerard. It was. I can vouch for that. Busted.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Apr 2, 2012 0:48:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that was just an April Fools Joke...
That's what I'd normally say if I wasn't so suspicious.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Apr 2, 2012 1:09:51 GMT -5
Truth be told, I couldn't log in all day, only just now. Maybe it got hacked?
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