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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 6, 2012 13:17:31 GMT -5
Same here. I remember, by the end of that abortion of a FIRST title defense, just Kubrick staring at the television for about three minutes, just reveling in how mind-boggling that was. I mean, my God, not only was it Jack's first title defense, it was one of the first times he was on television in singles action since he won the title last month! And, instead of even pretending he's a competent human being, let alone a worthy competitor, they job him to that goober with the sock on his hand! Honestly, as a fan of Swagger, who long since got tired of Santino's act a year ago, and Teddy Long's even before that, that was just a triple blow. Just... UGH! I agree with the sentiment, but it wasn't his first defence. He beat Gabriel at EC to retain. Right. Forgot about that. I did recall there being another defense in there somewhere, but I figured it was the Zack Ryder rematch that ended up not happening. The rest of my point still stands.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 6, 2012 13:21:45 GMT -5
The US Title meant feck all a long time ago, may as well give it to people that the crowd cares about.
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Post by Dr. Bunsen Honeydew on Mar 6, 2012 13:23:46 GMT -5
Ryder was treated as little more than a joke until he starts his crappy internet show, then people like him and of a sudden he's US champion. I love how this quote implies he started a webshow and was immediately handed the US title. Yeah. I mean, lets forget that Cena mentioned Ryder in his promos for several weeks before Ryder even appeared back on Raw. Lets forget that John Layringits was preventing him from even getting title shots for weeks as well. Nope, he was handed the US title.
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Post by The Possum on Mar 6, 2012 15:31:19 GMT -5
I hope they don't Christian him.
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Post by BigWill on Mar 6, 2012 15:51:10 GMT -5
Hate it. Don't begrudge him, but with my thread about Swagger the bias there should be apparent; but more than that, the win outta nowhere makes the belt look like s***. Yeah, I really don't like how the WWE can't seem to put in the effort to build towards a title match. Not only does this make the title look unimportant, but it makes pretty much every match that isn't moving a storyline look pointless. Wrestler A can go on a big winning streak and never get a shot at a title, while Wrestler B can lose every match for weeks and then win once and suddenly become #1 contender.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 6, 2012 15:58:23 GMT -5
Ryder was treated as little more than a joke until he starts his crappy internet show, then people like him and of a sudden he's US champion. I love how this quote implies he started a webshow and was immediately handed the US title. The first Z! True Long Island Story went on the web on February 17th of last year, he won the title on December 18th. Almost 10 months after the show first aired. If that kind of time period is considered "Sudden", then I suddenly Went from being in my first semester of college to my 3rd semester of college considering it took nearly the same amount of time. Never let facts get in the way of blind hate.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Mar 6, 2012 16:15:32 GMT -5
Hate to burst your bubbles, but you know Satino tonight. Question is who will he drop ti to? Swager, Otungo? Maybe back to Zigerl? or back to Kofe Kinston?
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 6, 2012 16:43:07 GMT -5
Gotta agree that I see no problem with either Ryder or Santino getting the title. Both are insanely over with the crowds. Really the Swagger reign sucked as he beat a fallen Ryder than did nothing with the belt and was normally destroyed when he did face people in tag matches or non title matches. At least Dolph was made to look like a legit threat at times. Hell, only time he's really looked bad is when he shows off too much.
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Post by mrjl on Mar 6, 2012 16:52:54 GMT -5
I still maintain that he'll be champ for 1 4 days. yeah that seems likely. Though I could see Ace trying to cost Santino the match and failing
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Post by mrjl on Mar 6, 2012 17:42:06 GMT -5
You honestly can't be saying that Ryder's reign hurt the US title can you? He spent months chasing one of the most solidly built champions in years and, eventually, beat him. After he had the belt he only dropped it because he was kayfabe hurt and even then it took just about everything Swagger had in his arsenal to win. The only way Ryder's run with the belt hurt the belt is that it ended with Swagger holding the title. Ryder was treated as little more than a joke until he starts his crappy internet show, then people like him and of a sudden he's US champion. Saying the US title is "Solidly built" is a bit much. It was just sort of a waist decoration for Dolph Ziggler for about six months, then yay Ryder wins it and we're supposed to pretend it means something again. Ryder's net show had been around long enough that it was hardly suddnely. In fact I'd say he'd been getting time on TV for a good chunk of the year because of that show
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 6, 2012 18:08:34 GMT -5
Considering the IC title is busy at the moment, I don't think it's a bad thing.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Mar 6, 2012 18:30:47 GMT -5
I love how this quote implies he started a webshow and was immediately handed the US title. The first Z! True Long Island Story went on the web on February 17th of last year, he won the title on December 18th. Almost 10 months after the show first aired. If that kind of time period is considered "Sudden", then I suddenly Went from being in my first semester of college to my 3rd semester of college considering it took nearly the same amount of time. Never let facts get in the way of blind hate. No, you're all right. I'll rephrase my statement. Zack Ryder sucked forever, got an internet show, acted like an ass for ten months, people thought it was funny, he starts beating Dolph Ziggler an assload of times, Cena becomes his best buddy for some reason, and then they give him the US title. I really should try to be more specific next time.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 6, 2012 19:30:36 GMT -5
The first Z! True Long Island Story went on the web on February 17th of last year, he won the title on December 18th. Almost 10 months after the show first aired. If that kind of time period is considered "Sudden", then I suddenly Went from being in my first semester of college to my 3rd semester of college considering it took nearly the same amount of time. Never let facts get in the way of blind hate. No, you're all right. I'll rephrase my statement. Zack Ryder sucked forever, got an internet show, acted like an ass for ten months, people thought it was funny, he starts beating Dolph Ziggler an assload of times, Cena becomes his best buddy for some reason, and then they give him the US title. I really should try to be more specific next time. You forgot the part where he became one of the single most over people on the roster, but do continue.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Mar 6, 2012 20:04:28 GMT -5
The first Z! True Long Island Story went on the web on February 17th of last year, he won the title on December 18th. Almost 10 months after the show first aired. If that kind of time period is considered "Sudden", then I suddenly Went from being in my first semester of college to my 3rd semester of college considering it took nearly the same amount of time. Never let facts get in the way of blind hate. No, you're all right. I'll rephrase my statement. Zack Ryder sucked forever, got an internet show, acted like an ass for ten months, people thought it was funny, he starts beating Dolph Ziggler an assload of times, Cena becomes his best buddy for some reason, and then they give him the US title. I really should try to be more specific next time. You forgot the part he was over as hell, his face turn, the fact that even before appearing on RAW he was on a ridiculous winning streak on Superstars, and the fact he was trained by Wolverine backstage which gave him the healing powers he needed to cure his broken back and become stronger.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Mar 6, 2012 21:43:29 GMT -5
No, you're all right. I'll rephrase my statement. Zack Ryder sucked forever, got an internet show, acted like an ass for ten months, people thought it was funny, he starts beating Dolph Ziggler an assload of times, Cena becomes his best buddy for some reason, and then they give him the US title. I really should try to be more specific next time. You forgot the part where he became one of the single most over people on the roster, but do continue. You know who else is pretty over? Hornswoggle. You think he deserves a US title run?
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Post by JDviant on Mar 6, 2012 22:03:22 GMT -5
My reaction: Unrelated to Santino, but this gif popped up just as Latino Heat started playing in iTunes. I dig it. Good for Santino winning though, I've always had a soft spot for him.
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Post by Spec_Sun on Mar 6, 2012 22:20:04 GMT -5
I'm happy that he won the belt, and he deserves the push. I like everything the guy does every week, and it's so obvious that the fans enjoy his work in and out of the ring. More Santino the more entertaining the show is for me.
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Post by BigWill on Mar 6, 2012 22:28:02 GMT -5
Santino's title run will likely be pretty exciting for the first month or so. But after a while of his limited wrestling ability and 2 dimensional character, I see people tiring of him.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 6, 2012 22:30:41 GMT -5
Santino's title run will likely be pretty exciting for the first month or so. But after a while of his limited wrestling ability and 2 dimensional character, I see people tiring of him. That's where creative should come in and make interesting feuds for him to hide his weakness, book to his strengths, and bring some value to the title. I mean, that is the whole point of creative isn't it?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Mar 6, 2012 22:31:28 GMT -5
Hey, some of the biggest stars our industry has ever produced got by on limited wrestling ability and two-dimensional characters.
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