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Post by blackmariah on Mar 16, 2012 18:24:29 GMT -5
On the subject of finishes, the following moves should be the end of the match period: DDT Necro Butcher tells a great story about accidentally sandbagging Justice Pain (Necro had taken a ladder to the head) while Pain was doing his Pain Thriller. Necro finally realizes what's going on and goes up for the move, but Pain throws him out of the ring onto the concrete. Zandig was in this match and thought Necro called the spot until he got back in the ring and started legit beating the blue hell out of Pain. Necro had no intention of stopping until Zandig grabbed him and DDT'd him. According to Necro he hates it when people don't sell DDT's. "That's Jake Roberts' finishing move, man! I have to sell that!" What always kills me are loose covers. A pin is just that. A pin. You should look like you are legitimately trying to keep someone from getting up, not like you're cuddling. "Cover... hook of the leg... one... two... and the guy on top lets go of the leg at two and three quarters for no damn reason except the match has to continue..." ARGH! Frustration factor: MINTY FRESH
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Post by gonzo16 on Mar 16, 2012 18:30:14 GMT -5
This one might be minor but it bugs the hell out of me for some reason:
I hate when there's a sunset flip cover and the persona actually making the pin starts to do a backroll out of it before the kickout even starts. I don't know if I explained it well, but I hope I did.
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Post by Starshine on Mar 16, 2012 18:45:56 GMT -5
Another one I hate is when you see guys hanging out in their wrestling tights despite the fact they don't have, or wouldn't know they would even have a match that night.
Which brings me to another pet peeve. WWE's insistance of booking their matches on the fly during their shows.
Both of these things really take me out of the relm of believability while watching.
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Post by Error on Mar 16, 2012 18:53:11 GMT -5
Another one I hate is when you see guys hanging out in their wrestling tights despite the fact they don't have, or wouldn't know they would even have a match that night. Which brings me to another pet peeve. WWE's insistance of booking their matches on the fly during their shows. Both of these things really take me out of the relm of believability while watching. I somewhat agree with the booking on the fly thing but I actually like the tights/gear thing because I'd expect people showing up to work to be in uniform so to speak unless told otherwise.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Mar 16, 2012 20:21:50 GMT -5
This one might be minor but it bugs the hell out of me for some reason: I hate when there's a sunset flip cover and the persona actually making the pin starts to do a backroll out of it before the kickout even starts. I don't know if I explained it well, but I hope I did. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's worse when the guy making the pin psychically pushes himself backwards with his arms. It looks so phony.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 16, 2012 20:23:48 GMT -5
On the subject of finishes, the following moves should be the end of the match period: DDT Necro Butcher tells a great story about accidentally sandbagging Justice Pain (Necro had taken a ladder to the head) while Pain was doing his Pain Thriller. Necro finally realizes what's going on and goes up for the move, but Pain throws him out of the ring onto the concrete. Zandig was in this match and thought Necro called the spot until he got back in the ring and started legit beating the blue hell out of Pain. Necro had no intention of stopping until Zandig grabbed him and DDT'd him. According to Necro he hates it when people don't sell DDT's. "That's Jake Roberts' finishing move, man! I have to sell that!" What always kills me are loose covers. A pin is just that. A pin. You should look like you are legitimately trying to keep someone from getting up, not like you're cuddling. "Cover... hook of the leg... one... two... and the guy on top lets go of the leg at two and three quarters for no damn reason except the match has to continue..." ARGH! Frustration factor: MINTY FRESH That's a great story and I agree with your point about pins.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Mar 16, 2012 21:54:21 GMT -5
Nothing annoys me more than bad booking. Especially when it's done with someone who is on the cusp of being a huge star or at least on their way and leads to them getting their legs cut out from beneath them. Yo Yo style booking is by far the worst example. More often than not it doesn't make both guys look like they are on equal ground; it just makes them both look like equal losers in my book.
I also hate those brawls that go on forever. When it comes to the point that the babyface is making his comeback more than once during the course of it than you've gone on far too long. And even worse is when the people involved wrestle later on in the show anyway which makes you wonder why they gave away so much initially? Why should I be interested in seeing the match when I just saw them clubbering each other for ten minutes or so?
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Mar 16, 2012 22:17:00 GMT -5
What always kills me are loose covers. A pin is just that. A pin. You should look like you are legitimately trying to keep someone from getting up, not like you're cuddling. "Cover... hook of the leg... one... two... and the guy on top lets go of the leg at two and three quarters for no damn reason except the match has to continue..." ARGH! Frustration factor: MINTY FRESH Another situation that bugs me regarding pins: 1. Wrestler A pins Wrestler B. 2. Wrestler C dives on top of Wrestler A to break up the pin. 3. Wrestler A is still on top of Wrestler B with shoulders pinned down. 4. Referee stops pinfall count. Wrestler B is still being pinned. Why should it matter if Wrestler A got punched in the back?
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Mar 17, 2012 4:16:56 GMT -5
What always kills me are loose covers. A pin is just that. A pin. You should look like you are legitimately trying to keep someone from getting up, not like you're cuddling. That's a great story and I agree with your point about pins. "You're not going to pin him with a lax cover". Screw Dave Meltzer. You two gents and Gorilla are right.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Mar 17, 2012 12:17:49 GMT -5
On the subject of finishes, the following moves should be the end of the match period: DDT Necro Butcher tells a great story about accidentally sandbagging Justice Pain (Necro had taken a ladder to the head) while Pain was doing his Pain Thriller. Necro finally realizes what's going on and goes up for the move, but Pain throws him out of the ring onto the concrete. Zandig was in this match and thought Necro called the spot until he got back in the ring and started legit beating the blue hell out of Pain. Necro had no intention of stopping until Zandig grabbed him and DDT'd him. According to Necro he hates it when people don't sell DDT's. "That's Jake Roberts' finishing move, man! I have to sell that!" What always kills me are loose covers. A pin is just that. A pin. You should look like you are legitimately trying to keep someone from getting up, not like you're cuddling. "Cover... hook of the leg... one... two... and the guy on top lets go of the leg at two and three quarters for no damn reason except the match has to continue..." ARGH! Frustration factor: MINTY FRESH I love that story so much. There's a video on youtube of Necro telling the story while the footage plays. The way he was thrown to the floor was sick.
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Post by "Hollywood" Cactus Matt on Mar 17, 2012 12:41:29 GMT -5
WWE's refusal to even marginally attempt to come off as a competitive sport. It drives me nuts when you see angles where a wrestler is deemed "not entertaining" as if that really should matter a damn in an organization that should be dictated by wins and losses. I'm glad they don't act like wrestling is a legit sport. It's insulting to the fans. Don't get me wrong, it's even more insulting when they go "Oh, didn't you know? This s***'s fake!". But I like the happy medium they have now. But the thing is ... if they want me to spend money on WrestleMania, for example, so I can see who wins the "championship," they should at least tongue-in-cheek things a bit, y'know? Like, I know that Charlie Sheen Ricky "Wild Thing" Vaughn was never really a star pitcher for the Cleveland Indians, but in the context of the movie Major League, they needed to act like he really was, so that you're emotionally invested and don't mind plunking down some money to see how things play out. Kayfabe is dead dead dead, and that's what I "hate" about wrestling nowadays.
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Post by austinariesfan88 on Mar 17, 2012 15:26:43 GMT -5
When a wrestler turns heel all of a sudden he can't win a match without cheating or outside interference.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2012 15:34:46 GMT -5
Lack of heels. I'm talking guys that would do despicable things, and if the crowd tried to cheer them they'd insult them majorly or do something even more despicable to get them to boo them. Everyone wants to be the cool heel now. I want someone that is so despised people are taking swings at him as he walks to the ring, like the old days, but I digress.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Mar 17, 2012 15:46:43 GMT -5
Lack of heels. I'm talking guys that would do despicable things, and if the crowd tried to cheer them they'd insult them majorly or do something even more despicable to get them to boo them. Everyone wants to be the cool heel now. I want someone that is so despised people are taking swings at him as he walks to the ring, like the old days, but I digress. Sad thing is, it's not just the actual world of wrestling that's gone this way - even efed/rpg stuff is that way. I'm not highly active in this kind of thing, but there's a forum I go to that does a couple of "big events" each year and I've always participated. One of them is coming up and there's been talking of a new one, and I've started to realize I don't care. Even in that, everyone wants to be a heel. No one wants to be a face, and the heels all want to be either egomaniacs or '80s Flair "got the money and women" kind of deals. Nobody sells anything that anybody says; if they can't top it, they just ignore it. So it's sucked the fun out of real and fake wrestling.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 17, 2012 23:26:25 GMT -5
1- Stop/start booking 2- Toilet humour 3- Misogyny 4- Sexual stuff 5- Comedy title reigns.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Mar 17, 2012 23:38:05 GMT -5
Lack of heels. I'm talking guys that would do despicable things, and if the crowd tried to cheer them they'd insult them majorly or do something even more despicable to get them to boo them. Everyone wants to be the cool heel now. I want someone that is so despised people are taking swings at him as he walks to the ring, like the old days, but I digress. Oh God yes. I agree with this completely.
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Post by agent817 on Mar 18, 2012 0:51:32 GMT -5
The fact that heel tag teams can alternate without tagging in the match and the ref would not notice. If it was a face tag team, the ref would be all up on one of the wrestlers' grill and tell him to go back to his corner.
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Post by gonzo16 on Mar 18, 2012 11:05:01 GMT -5
Lack of heels. I'm talking guys that would do despicable things, and if the crowd tried to cheer them they'd insult them majorly or do something even more despicable to get them to boo them. Everyone wants to be the cool heel now. I want someone that is so despised people are taking swings at him as he walks to the ring, like the old days, but I digress. I agree with this. The only guys I see doing this now are Mark Henry, and Bully Ray.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2012 11:23:31 GMT -5
Another one I hate is when you see guys hanging out in their wrestling tights despite the fact they don't have, or wouldn't know they would even have a match that night. Which brings me to another pet peeve. WWE's insistance of booking their matches on the fly during their shows. Both of these things really take me out of the relm of believability while watching. I somewhat agree with the booking on the fly thing but I actually like the tights/gear thing because I'd expect people showing up to work to be in uniform so to speak unless told otherwise. Watching some football (soccer) just now, an when the teams arrived to the stadium, they weren't wearing their kits, they would have changed into the kits in the dressing room. If it's say less then half an hour before their match, then yeah they should be in their gear. Otherwise, especially if they aren't on the card, then they should just wear normal stuff.
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Post by Sam Punk on Mar 18, 2012 11:25:57 GMT -5
They always do the figure four leglock on the wrong leg. It's the straight leg that the move hits, not the bent one. A guy will work 20 minutes on one knee, then put the f4 and hit the other knee. Makes no sense.
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