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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 22:21:38 GMT -5
Heel GMs may be repetitive, but I'll take one over a face GM any day of the week. Can't stand face authority figures.
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Post by mrjl on Apr 3, 2012 22:23:05 GMT -5
Heel GMs may be repetitive, but I'll take one over a face GM any day of the week. Can't stand face authority figures. that makes absolutely no sense at all |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 22:24:20 GMT -5
Heel GMs may be repetitive, but I'll take one over a face GM any day of the week. Can't stand face authority figures. that makes absolutely no sense at all I personally don't find face GMs entertaining. How does that not make sense? |
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Post by mizerable on Apr 3, 2012 22:25:00 GMT -5
that makes absolutely no sense at all He'll take repetition over something he hates? Repetition doesn't exactly mean it's uninteresting. It just means it's uncreative. |
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Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on Apr 3, 2012 22:25:26 GMT -5
It would be stupid to ignore those chants. This is WWE we're talking about. They've done a lot of stupid things. Doesn't mean they'll eff up everything. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 22:26:26 GMT -5
that makes absolutely no sense at all He'll take repetition over something he hates? Repetition doesn't exactly mean it's uninteresting. It just means it's uncreative. Right. Ideally they'd move past GMs entirely or have a truly neutral one, but failing that, I'd rather a heel. |
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Post by joebob27 on Apr 3, 2012 22:26:28 GMT -5
Face GM's don't make sense in general. It's supposed to be a battle of good vs. evil, how does stacking the deck in favor of good make for a good program?
It can kinda work if you're doing "shades of gray" but WWE hasn't been doing that for years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 22:27:52 GMT -5
Face GM's don't make sense in general. It's supposed to be a battle of good vs. evil, how does stacking the deck in favor of good make for a good program? It can kinda work if you're doing "shades of gray" but WWE hasn't been doing that for years. Pretty much. The anonymous GM did that sometimes, but it wound up going nowhere and being a confusing, inconsistent mess, so it didn't really work. |
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Post by mrjl on Apr 3, 2012 22:29:11 GMT -5
Face GM's don't make sense in general. It's supposed to be a battle of good vs. evil, how does stacking the deck in favor of good make for a good program? It can kinda work if you're doing "shades of gray" but WWE hasn't been doing that for years. Pretty much. The anonymous GM did that sometimes, but it wound up going nowhere and being a confusing, inconsistent mess, so it didn't really work. good wouldn't stack the deck and honestly the anon GM quickly became full on heel. |
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Post by mizerable on Apr 3, 2012 22:29:42 GMT -5
They've done a lot of stupid things. Doesn't mean they'll eff up everything. You're right...they'll just eff up the things I get behind the most. Again, that's partially my fault for having high hopes...but I know I'm not alone in thinking that they could...CHANGE and listen to the fans instead of their own little egos. |
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Post by Richard on Apr 3, 2012 22:30:56 GMT -5
Face GM's don't make sense in general. It's supposed to be a battle of good vs. evil, how does stacking the deck in favor of good make for a good program? It can kinda work if you're doing "shades of gray" but WWE hasn't been doing that for years. Why would a face GM have to stack the deck against a heel or in favor of good? Couldn't a true face GM just be the guy that does the right thing? I mean a heel cheats to win so he restarts the match or a heel has a match won until a face he's feuding with distracts him (thinking Cody/Kofi/Show from RAW) costing the heel so he give the heel another shot at either the person he's feuding with or the guy he lost to? No need for shades of gray, just a guy or gal doing what it right. |
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Post by mizerable on Apr 3, 2012 22:32:20 GMT -5
It can kinda work if you're doing "shades of gray" but WWE hasn't been doing that for years. I was actually kind of pumped when Bischoff cut his hair and was starting to push back on some of the heels who used to manipulate him...then they go right back to the status quo. Another case of WWE being afraid to pull the trigger all the way. |
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Post by joebob27 on Apr 3, 2012 22:32:57 GMT -5
Face GM's don't make sense in general. It's supposed to be a battle of good vs. evil, how does stacking the deck in favor of good make for a good program? It can kinda work if you're doing "shades of gray" but WWE hasn't been doing that for years. Why would a face GM have to stack the deck against a heel or in favor of good? Couldn't a true face GM just be the guy that does the right thing? I mean a heel cheats to win so he restarts the match or a heel has a match won until a face he's feuding with distracts him (thinking Cody/Kofi/Show from RAW) costing the heel so he give the heel another shot at either the person he's feuding with or the guy he lost to? No need for shades of gray, just a guy or gal doing what it right. Because if a face GM does anything to positively effect a heel, he too is a heel and it's time to eat the face's finisher. Hell, Stone Cold was a face GM and all he did was threaten heels and beat on them. |
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 3, 2012 22:33:27 GMT -5
Pretty much. The anonymous GM did that sometimes, but it wound up going nowhere and being a confusing, inconsistent mess, so it didn't really work. good wouldn't stack the deck and honestly the anon GM quickly became full on heel. However, towards the end of its run it just went weird, one segment it would be pro-heel and the next one it would be pro-face. Face GM's don't make sense in general. It's supposed to be a battle of good vs. evil, how does stacking the deck in favor of good make for a good program? It can kinda work if you're doing "shades of gray" but WWE hasn't been doing that for years. Why would a face GM have to stack the deck against a heel or in favor of good? Couldn't a true face GM just be the guy that does the right thing? I mean a heel cheats to win so he restarts the match or a heel has a match won until a face he's feuding with distracts him (thinking Cody/Kofi/Show from RAW) costing the heel so he give the heel another shot at either the person he's feuding with or the guy he lost to? No need for shades of gray, just a guy or gal doing what it right. That is the dictionary definition of a neutral GM. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 22:33:53 GMT -5
Face GM's don't make sense in general. It's supposed to be a battle of good vs. evil, how does stacking the deck in favor of good make for a good program? It can kinda work if you're doing "shades of gray" but WWE hasn't been doing that for years. Why would a face GM have to stack the deck against a heel or in favor of good? Couldn't a true face GM just be the guy that does the right thing? I mean a heel cheats to win so he restarts the match or a heel has a match won until a face he's feuding with distracts him (thinking Cody/Kofi/Show from RAW) costing the heel so he give the heel another shot at either the person he's feuding with or the guy he lost to? No need for shades of gray, just a guy or gal doing what it right. True, that'd be fine, but WWE doesn't tend do that. Instead you have Teddy doing things like sicking Big Show / Taker / Sheamus / Orton / whoever on anyone who in any way angers him, making Drew McIntyre miserable for no reason, and sometimes going out of his way to screw over heels who haven't actually done anything wrong, like Batista at TLC 2009. It's just how WWE tends to write these things. Really, I think part of why I hate face authority figures, though, is that recent ones have included Triple H - who I found more likable in that storyline than Punk, but not saying much, the guest hosts who were mostly complete asses themselves, and Teddy Long who is just so far past played out and I find incredibly annoying. It can kinda work if you're doing "shades of gray" but WWE hasn't been doing that for years. I was actually kind of pumped when Bischoff cut his hair and was starting to push back on some of the heels who used to manipulate him...then they go right back to the status quo. Another case of WWE being afraid to pull the trigger all the way. Yeah, that was actually pretty cool, when Bischoff stopped playing favorites for Evolution once they were nowhere to be found when he needed their help for once. |
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Post by froggyfrog on Apr 3, 2012 22:34:36 GMT -5
Heel GMs may be repetitive, but I'll take one over a face GM any day of the week. Can't stand face authority figures. that makes absolutely no sense at all um yes it does? |
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Post by froggyfrog on Apr 3, 2012 22:35:23 GMT -5
Also is anyone confused why one set of spoilers mentions Sandow and the other does not?
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 3, 2012 22:39:03 GMT -5
Also is anyone confused why one set of spoilers mentions Sandow and the other does not? In the context of the ProWrestling.net one being much less detailed and, when it was live coverage, a lot slower to update, not really (and it was confirmed that he had a vignette.) |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 3, 2012 22:41:11 GMT -5
Yep, just like I figured - they're going to kill Bryan's "YES!" gimmick to try and force the fans to hate him by taking away something they love and that got over.
God, WWE loves flushing money down the toilet.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 3, 2012 22:48:51 GMT -5
The heel authority figure concept is played out and has been for 10 years.
Im sick of Owners/GMs/commisioners/grand poobahs being the focus of a wrestling show
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