Essential1
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Post by Essential1 on Apr 21, 2012 9:28:10 GMT -5
No big deal to me. It wasn't as if Natalya was laying unconcious.
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Post by memphis25 on Apr 21, 2012 9:39:34 GMT -5
On AJ busting Natalya open, we don't know she busted her hard or if that was caused by friction, i.e. her nails or boots. You can cut someone open by scratching at them, but someone with no muscle on their frame beating up a big and powerful person? Lolwut? Search "Natalya BLEEDS" on youtube and then go to her twitter and look at her banged up face. You don't need to look bad to be bad and no matter how bad you are you're still human and getting hit in the face is going to do damage even from a 100 pound girl. A smaller person being able to beat up a larger person is life, thinking its not possible or realist is suspending your disbelief.
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Post by The Shareholder is nude on Apr 21, 2012 9:41:56 GMT -5
On AJ busting Natalya open, we don't know she busted her hard or if that was caused by friction, i.e. her nails or boots. You can cut someone open by scratching at them, but someone with no muscle on their frame beating up a big and powerful person? Lolwut? Search "Natalya BLEEDS" on youtube and then go to her twitter and look at her banged up face. You don't need to look bad to be bad and no matter how bad you are you're still human and getting hit in the face is going to do damage even from a 100 pound girl. A smaller person being able to beat up a larger person is life, thinking its not possible or realist is suspending your disbelief. I searched for it but it led me somewhere that I am trying to block out of my memory forever.....
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Celgress
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Post by Celgress on Apr 21, 2012 9:51:21 GMT -5
Natalya, sadly, is just a jobber anyway so no biggie imo.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Apr 21, 2012 10:00:39 GMT -5
That's what tiny little AJ did to Natalya.
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Post by Taupy on Apr 21, 2012 10:18:36 GMT -5
What count is not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
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Post by Totorob101 on Apr 21, 2012 10:29:38 GMT -5
I really cant find any reason why we should like AJ after this.Why didnt she stand up for herself against Bryan instead of jumping an innocent Natalya? Why did AJ try to get back with him knowing full well hes a jerk? People will defend her and how cute she is and all but all i see is that shes a coward that wont defend herself,that she likes jerks and she doesnt have morales that much (helping Bryan screw over Sheamus before their WM match).
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Post by norsisclouds on Apr 21, 2012 11:02:24 GMT -5
I had the same reaction because it even looks ridiculous when Eve puts Natalya into choke holds as a heel, when Naty could easily overpower her with just one move, not to mention what we have seen her do in a wrestling ring.
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Post by vanboxmeer on Apr 21, 2012 11:23:19 GMT -5
The live crowd audience is really not reacting or anticipating AJ getting revenge on Daniel Bryan in any city they've been in since he's too beloved by a lot of the audience even if they are wiling to play along and boo him. You never see any signs in the crowd for AJ getting her due on Bryan, and this segment was another example of this apathy. They just made no reaction, like for any regular divas match. All the heat and momentum is totally Daniel Bryan.
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Post by norsisclouds on Apr 21, 2012 11:26:32 GMT -5
The live crowd audience is really not reacting or anticipating AJ getting revenge on Daniel Bryan in any city they've been in since he's too beloved by a lot of the audience even if they are wiling to play along and boo him. You never see any signs in the crowd for AJ getting her due on Bryan, and this segment was another example of this apathy. They just made no reaction, like for any regular divas match. All the heat and momentum is totally Daniel Bryan. I've noticed this too. I think she's more popular on the Internet than she is in the arena.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2012 11:34:20 GMT -5
The live crowd audience is really not reacting or anticipating AJ getting revenge on Daniel Bryan in any city they've been in since he's too beloved by a lot of the audience even if they are wiling to play along and boo him. You never see any signs in the crowd for AJ getting her due on Bryan, and this segment was another example of this apathy. They just made no reaction, like for any regular divas match. All the heat and momentum is totally Daniel Bryan. I've noticed this too. I think she's more popular on the Internet than she is in the arena. Not just AJ. There's a total disconnect between the live audiences and online fans when it comes to the Divas in general. The Divas would be in pretty good shape if the live crowds cared even 1/4 as much as online fans do.
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Post by PKO on Apr 21, 2012 11:42:17 GMT -5
The live crowd audience is really not reacting or anticipating AJ getting revenge on Daniel Bryan in any city they've been in since he's too beloved by a lot of the audience even if they are wiling to play along and boo him. You never see any signs in the crowd for AJ getting her due on Bryan, and this segment was another example of this apathy. They just made no reaction, like for any regular divas match. All the heat and momentum is totally Daniel Bryan. It's a great storyline and everyone's playing their parts well, but the fans just don't want to boo Bryan. That leaves AJ in a pickle because how are they supposed to react to her? He says horrible things about her and they cheer. If she was in this storyline with someone who wasn't so beloved it'd be better for her reaction wise. I think it's going to look like she'll turn on Bryan, but she'll end up turning heel and he'll take her back.
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Post by Dat Dude on Apr 21, 2012 11:48:56 GMT -5
On paper it sounds bad, but I saw the clip it actually looked like they protected Nattie well in that she was caught by surprise and was sympathetic to AJ in not fighting back. Based on their previous bookings of those two, if Nattie wasn't caught off guard and sympathetic to AJ, Nattie have manhandled her.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2012 11:53:12 GMT -5
I just watched Kelly Kelly and AJ's attacks back to back and outside of pure bias, there is no way that AJ's should be defended and Kelly's deemed laughable in comparison. Dare I say it, K2's acting was...perfectly fine in that segment. She's the happy, bubbly, blonde, face diva that comes out like this ;D and she's trying to put on a brave face despite being pissed that her reign from June-October was ended in such an unfair way. Both Michael Cole AND JR put this over on commentary as she comes out and even use the term "putting on a front". "The Divas of Doom/Sisters of Salvation/Pin-Up Strong" come out smiling, talking **** and showing off that title and Kelly's face immediately is shown like this . They stand on the apron right in front of her and hoist the belt up collectively and her face is even more . The match starts, they lock up, Beth kicks her to the gut then throws her out the ring in a very disrespectful manner and this is when Kelly Kelly decides to drop all pretenses and says "**** this **** I'm finna whoop this ***** ass!" When Beth gets out the ring to go after K2, she is caught by surprise and sent into the announce table then she is repeatedly bashed face first into the table and Kelly Kelly starts clubbering on her and when the ref tries to get her off, Kelly is all "**** you dude, dis hoe gon' die tonight!" and she starts banging the back of Beth's head into the announce table and doing some more clubbering before finally getting pulled off by then gal pal Eve and the referee. Is her screaming kinda funny? Yeah, she doesn't seem like someone who gets mad much so I can imagine that being a reason why. I know people love AJ for various "not to be crass/girl next door/she likes what I like" reasons and think she's a "great" wrestler, but c'mon now. And I don't know what reaction WWE wants the fans to give her, but everyone seems to see her character as the title of that recent bad Nicki Minaj song...
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Apr 21, 2012 11:58:21 GMT -5
You know, if Kelly actually said "F*** you dude, dis ho gon' die tonight" for real during that beatdown, there would be almost no haters at all.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 21, 2012 12:04:34 GMT -5
I think the difference is that Natalya was being sympathetic to AJ, hence not much desire to fight back. That almost seemed like a face turn.
Divas of doom were trying week in and week out to destroy Kelly, and still got the shit beaten out of them.
But I'm sure someone will still call bias.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 21, 2012 12:12:07 GMT -5
Not only was it an attack without warning, but I also get the impression Natalya purposefully didn't fight back. She was being a Face, basically.
Perhaps I read it wrong, but it didn't seem out of place to me because it wasn't a physical decimation, it was just lashing out. Nattie wasn't laid out at the end of it, she was just shocked.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2012 12:17:21 GMT -5
That's the thing, Natalya didn't show any sympathy towards AJ at all. Go back and watch it again, the only thing Natalya is talking about is "Come on let's wrestle". She puts her hand on AJ's arm and says something else about "Let's wrestle" and before getting slapped, she shrugs towards the referee saying something to the extent of "What's wrong with her? Why won't she wrestle?". Josh Matthews abruptly mentions her showing sympathy, but that's about it.
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Post by BigWill on Apr 21, 2012 12:21:52 GMT -5
Because Kelly Kelly's acting at the time was hilariously bad. Plus it made no sense for her to just flip out like that and attack Beth. Not to mention, she's suppose to be the face in all that. Whereas both AJ and Natalya sold the beating very well, and it all made sense in the context of the storyline with AJ and Bryan. She lost the title to Beth the night before after Nattie hit her in the head with a microphone. Isn't that reason enough? It's reason to try and get the title back, but not to randomly attack someone during a match. Kelly Kelly attacking Beth there served no purpose, and it all felt awkward at best.
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Post by Sharpy Snow on Apr 21, 2012 12:25:44 GMT -5
I really cant find any reason why we should like AJ after this.Why didnt she stand up for herself against Bryan instead of jumping an innocent Natalya? Why did AJ try to get back with him knowing full well hes a jerk? People will defend her and how cute she is and all but all i see is that shes a coward that wont defend herself,that she likes jerks and she doesnt have morales that much (helping Bryan screw over Sheamus before their WM match). It's almost as if AJ is turning into a psycho heel
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