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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Apr 24, 2012 21:42:38 GMT -5
Cody losing thanks to some Big Show shenanigans makes a lot more sense.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 24, 2012 21:43:28 GMT -5
How many more Ryback squash matches must we see? How many local jobbers are there? Every major city they perform probably has at least one indy fed, so...that's a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 21:46:33 GMT -5
You're breaking my heart with Tyson, WWE.
I like Cesaro as much as the next guy.... but come on. Tyson has so much talent.
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Post by Cronant on Apr 24, 2012 21:49:08 GMT -5
Context makes everything better.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 21:51:45 GMT -5
Why would Cody bother helping del Rio? If anything I'd take them both out in his position.
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 24, 2012 21:52:19 GMT -5
Why would Cody bother helping del Rio? If anything I'd take them both out in his position. I guess Rhodes wants to get back at Show.
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 24, 2012 21:53:04 GMT -5
Cody losing thanks to some Big Show shenanigans makes a lot more sense. It's still to Khali, which is the bigger problem here.
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Apr 24, 2012 21:57:26 GMT -5
Cesaro used a variation on a piledriver? Based on Wiki, that sounds like either the Gotch Neutraliser or the Ricola Bomb.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Apr 24, 2012 21:58:24 GMT -5
Cody losing thanks to some Big Show shenanigans makes a lot more sense. It's still to Khali, which is the bigger problem here. That's a big problem.The bigger problem is that both guys involved in the IC title match this sunday lost. So, WWE wants me to care about a match with two losers? You've already established that they're both geeks who can't stay focused because their arch-nemisis' music just happens to play.
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Post by Malibu Albino on Apr 24, 2012 22:03:59 GMT -5
* World Heavyweight Champion Sheamus b. Mark Henry in a non-title match with the Brogue Kick. Daniel Bryan was at ringside. After the match, Bryan attacked Sheamus from behind. Bryan stood over Sheamus with the World Heavyweight Title in hand screaming “YES” repeatedly to close the show. This should be the ending to Extreme Rules not Smackdown!
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Post by dragonzombie on Apr 24, 2012 22:17:51 GMT -5
So apparently this is a pic from tonight's show. Oh dear. It must be weird giving a promo when all your looking at is hundreds of empty seats. Friday Night Death Slot and loss of Undertaker any other bigger names. What causal fan would go to this? In 2012 with an weak American economy? Not much would sadly. They used to get bigger numbers even when promoted as a B-show years back. Erosion of fans.
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Post by #RUDO Coco Del Rio on Apr 24, 2012 22:23:05 GMT -5
* Alberto Del Rio interrupts Bryan and says that while Bryan has a title shot this Sunday, he has the next one. Del Rio says that it does not matter who walks out of Extreme Rules as champion, because it is his destiny to become the new World Heavyweight Champion. I thought the destiny stuff was done already. I love you but... It’s time for a new campaign, bruh.
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Post by Dean-o on Apr 24, 2012 22:24:10 GMT -5
It's still to Khali, which is the bigger problem here. That's a big problem.The bigger problem is that both guys involved in the IC title match this sunday lost. So, WWE wants me to care about a match with two losers? You've already established that they're both geeks who can't stay focused because their arch-nemisis' music just happens to play. That's the problem alright. Both these guys, hell everybody involved in a PPV match should look like a million bucks. I'm so tired of this booking method. Del Rio should be demanding the title, and Khali (or Kofi, or R-Truth) should be asking why they aren't challenging Big Show on Sunday. Title matches are no longer built on rankings but on feuds. What role does holding the IC belt have in this feud? ZERO. WrestleMania was built on Big Show having a "WrestleMania moment". The belt was an afterthought. This type of booking makes titles meaningless, and everybody looking like a bunch of losers.
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Post by Azrael from Outerspace on Apr 24, 2012 22:27:53 GMT -5
Cesaro used a variation on a piledriver? Based on Wiki, that sounds like either the Gotch Neutraliser or the Ricola Bomb. It's a variation of the Gotch Neutralizer. It's been his finisher for his last couple of matches in FCW.
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Post by shallbejudged on Apr 24, 2012 22:28:21 GMT -5
A tag team with an actual finisher? Preposterous!
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Post by Dean-o on Apr 24, 2012 22:39:48 GMT -5
So apparently this is a pic from tonight's show. Oh dear. It must be weird giving a promo when all your looking at is hundreds of empty seats. Friday Night Death Slot and loss of Undertaker any other bigger names. What causal fan would go to this? In 2012 with an weak American economy? Not much would sadly. They used to get bigger numbers even when promoted as a B-show years back. Erosion of fans. They only have themselves to blame for these turnouts. It's not just that Smackdown is the B-Show, because it always has been. It's the fact that the WWE has made every effort to let us know Raw is the only must see show to watch. It's live and Smackdown is taped. Nothing special happens on Smackdown. Would it have killed them to have HHH, Taker, or The Rock show up just ONCE on the Road to WrestleMania? Smackdown's top guys can show up on Raw, yet how often do Cena & Punk show up on Smackdown? An in effort to attract Raw only viewers to Smackdown, all they've done was give them more reason not to watch it. That, plus a paper thin roster with a lot of guys injured, and the remaining roster a bunch of jobbers, and you get attendance like that. They also did a great job making the fans think of NXT as a joke after season 3, so that's not a draw, that's an annoyance having to sit through an hour of it before Smackdown tapings start. Quick, when was the last time a Smackdown match main evented a PPV? Also, how telling is it that for 2 years in a row, the Smackdown title curtain jerked WrestleMania? They could have the next 10 Royal Rumble winners pick the Smackdown title for WM, it doesn't matter, because Raw will ALWAYS have the hot angle for the main event. The fans are conditioned to not care about this show.
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Post by dragonzombie on Apr 24, 2012 23:12:27 GMT -5
Yeah, you summed it up.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 25, 2012 0:14:50 GMT -5
Friday Night Death Slot and loss of Undertaker any other bigger names. What causal fan would go to this? In 2012 with an weak American economy? Not much would sadly. They used to get bigger numbers even when promoted as a B-show years back. Erosion of fans. They only have themselves to blame for these turnouts. It's not just that Smackdown is the B-Show, because it always has been. It's the fact that the WWE has made every effort to let us know Raw is the only must see show to watch. It's live and Smackdown is taped. Nothing special happens on Smackdown. Would it have killed them to have HHH, Taker, or The Rock show up just ONCE on the Road to WrestleMania? Smackdown's top guys can show up on Raw, yet how often do Cena & Punk show up on Smackdown? An in effort to attract Raw only viewers to Smackdown, all they've done was give them more reason not to watch it. That, plus a paper thin roster with a lot of guys injured, and the remaining roster a bunch of jobbers, and you get attendance like that. They also did a great job making the fans think of NXT as a joke after season 3, so that's not a draw, that's an annoyance having to sit through an hour of it before Smackdown tapings start. Quick, when was the last time a Smackdown match main evented a PPV? Also, how telling is it that for 2 years in a row, the Smackdown title curtain jerked WrestleMania? They could have the next 10 Royal Rumble winners pick the Smackdown title for WM, it doesn't matter, because Raw will ALWAYS have the hot angle for the main event. The fans are conditioned to not care about this show. Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure the last time SmackDown main-evented a PPV was Punk vs. Hardy at SummerSlam 2009. Yikes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 0:15:36 GMT -5
They only have themselves to blame for these turnouts. It's not just that Smackdown is the B-Show, because it always has been. It's the fact that the WWE has made every effort to let us know Raw is the only must see show to watch. It's live and Smackdown is taped. Nothing special happens on Smackdown. Would it have killed them to have HHH, Taker, or The Rock show up just ONCE on the Road to WrestleMania? Smackdown's top guys can show up on Raw, yet how often do Cena & Punk show up on Smackdown? An in effort to attract Raw only viewers to Smackdown, all they've done was give them more reason not to watch it. That, plus a paper thin roster with a lot of guys injured, and the remaining roster a bunch of jobbers, and you get attendance like that. They also did a great job making the fans think of NXT as a joke after season 3, so that's not a draw, that's an annoyance having to sit through an hour of it before Smackdown tapings start. Quick, when was the last time a Smackdown match main evented a PPV? Also, how telling is it that for 2 years in a row, the Smackdown title curtain jerked WrestleMania? They could have the next 10 Royal Rumble winners pick the Smackdown title for WM, it doesn't matter, because Raw will ALWAYS have the hot angle for the main event. The fans are conditioned to not care about this show. Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure the last time SmackDown main-evented a PPV was Punk vs. Hardy at SummerSlam 2009. Yikes. It was Kane / Undertaker at Hell in a Cell 2010. And funny thing there is that Cena / Barrett really should have done so.
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 25, 2012 0:28:25 GMT -5
Now that you mention it, I'm pretty sure the last time SmackDown main-evented a PPV was Punk vs. Hardy at SummerSlam 2009. Yikes. It was Kane / Undertaker at Hell in a Cell 2010. And funny thing there is that Cena / Barrett really should have done so. Didn't a bunch of people leave once the Cena/Barrett match ended despite the fact that there was still one match left? And to answer DeanNJN's question, The last time Cena showed up on the televised portion of Smackdown was in August of 2011 (the original SuperSmackdown special) and Punk appeared twice on Smackdown during the build to Wrestlemania.
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