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Post by YiHammer on Apr 25, 2012 8:54:27 GMT -5
Pretty sure it's the Styles Clash/Faithbreaker.
I remember reading he won a dark with the Faithbreaker
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 25, 2012 9:04:03 GMT -5
He's been doing the Gotch Piledriver (a bit like Minoru Suzuki's) on FCW recently, so I think it's that.
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 25, 2012 9:05:02 GMT -5
Friday Night Death Slot and loss of Undertaker any other bigger names. What causal fan would go to this? In 2012 with an weak American economy? Not much would sadly. They used to get bigger numbers even when promoted as a B-show years back. Erosion of fans. They only have themselves to blame for these turnouts. It's not just that Smackdown is the B-Show, because it always has been. It's the fact that the WWE has made every effort to let us know Raw is the only must see show to watch. It's live and Smackdown is taped. Nothing special happens on Smackdown. Would it have killed them to have HHH, Taker, or The Rock show up just ONCE on the Road to WrestleMania? Smackdown's top guys can show up on Raw, yet how often do Cena & Punk show up on Smackdown? An in effort to attract Raw only viewers to Smackdown, all they've done was give them more reason not to watch it. That, plus a paper thin roster with a lot of guys injured, and the remaining roster a bunch of jobbers, and you get attendance like that. They also did a great job making the fans think of NXT as a joke after season 3, so that's not a draw, that's an annoyance having to sit through an hour of it before Smackdown tapings start. Quick, when was the last time a Smackdown match main evented a PPV? Also, how telling is it that for 2 years in a row, the Smackdown title curtain jerked WrestleMania? They could have the next 10 Royal Rumble winners pick the Smackdown title for WM, it doesn't matter, because Raw will ALWAYS have the hot angle for the main event. The fans are conditioned to not care about this show. There's one more thing you are forgetting, which I guess could potentially contribute. Smackdown used to have this identity as the wrestling show, where there was consistently solid matches and more often than not, several 10+ minute matches in a single show. Now, they've just tried to make it Raw lite with lousy main events and multiple short and pointless matches. At least in 2007, when they had a guy like Taker, there were also guys like Matt Hardy and Rey Mysterio having 12-15 minute matches every week and all of them being damn solid. We might get one or two 12-15 minute matches on Smackdown a month now. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 9:17:35 GMT -5
He's been around for a year? That's... weird. Poor guy has made no impact at all. Every time he is on TV feels like the first time. The only thing worse would be that, every week, somebody should go "Oh my gosh! It's Jinder Mahal!" (5) Great Khali beat Cody Rhodes.  WHY?! CODY RHODES HAS NOT WON A MATCH SINCE WRESTLEMANIA! Of course, this is all thanks to Big Show, who interferes. I really want to see Cody win the IC belt back, but that would mean this feud lasting at least one more month. |
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Post by Branimal on Apr 25, 2012 9:24:25 GMT -5
Friday Night Death Slot and loss of Undertaker any other bigger names. What causal fan would go to this? In 2012 with an weak American economy? Not much would sadly. They used to get bigger numbers even when promoted as a B-show years back. Erosion of fans. They only have themselves to blame for these turnouts. It's not just that Smackdown is the B-Show, because it always has been. It's the fact that the WWE has made every effort to let us know Raw is the only must see show to watch. It's live and Smackdown is taped. Nothing special happens on Smackdown. Would it have killed them to have HHH, Taker, or The Rock show up just ONCE on the Road to WrestleMania? Smackdown's top guys can show up on Raw, yet how often do Cena & Punk show up on Smackdown? An in effort to attract Raw only viewers to Smackdown, all they've done was give them more reason not to watch it. That, plus a paper thin roster with a lot of guys injured, and the remaining roster a bunch of jobbers, and you get attendance like that. They also did a great job making the fans think of NXT as a joke after season 3, so that's not a draw, that's an annoyance having to sit through an hour of it before Smackdown tapings start. Quick, when was the last time a Smackdown match main evented a PPV? Also, how telling is it that for 2 years in a row, the Smackdown title curtain jerked WrestleMania? They could have the next 10 Royal Rumble winners pick the Smackdown title for WM, it doesn't matter, because Raw will ALWAYS have the hot angle for the main event. The fans are conditioned to not care about this show. I couldn't sum it up any better myself. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 9:32:39 GMT -5
I'm kind of expecting Cody to win the title back via Barrett interference, which then could be used to move Big Show into feuding with him. It'd make more sense to bump Cody up to going after Sheamus while Barrett guns for the Intercontinental title from Show, but more likely is them doing the inverse.
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Apr 25, 2012 10:47:16 GMT -5
This smackdown is reading a lot like the story mode in Raw 2 Did somebody's rival run in during a match and help you beat down your opponent? |
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 25, 2012 10:48:42 GMT -5
This smackdown is reading a lot like the story mode in Raw 2 Did somebody's rival run in during a match and help you beat down your opponent? Cody Rhodes did attack The Big Show during his match. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 10:48:52 GMT -5
This smackdown is reading a lot like the story mode in Raw 2 Did somebody's rival run in during a match and help you beat down your opponent? If you count del Rio walking out on Cody and then Cody helping him out, yes. |
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Post by jeffreyc on Apr 25, 2012 11:34:57 GMT -5
(4) Antonio Cesaro beat Tyson Kidd in a try-out match.  |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 25, 2012 12:22:55 GMT -5
They only have themselves to blame for these turnouts. It's not just that Smackdown is the B-Show, because it always has been. It's the fact that the WWE has made every effort to let us know Raw is the only must see show to watch. It's live and Smackdown is taped. Nothing special happens on Smackdown. Would it have killed them to have HHH, Taker, or The Rock show up just ONCE on the Road to WrestleMania? Smackdown's top guys can show up on Raw, yet how often do Cena & Punk show up on Smackdown? An in effort to attract Raw only viewers to Smackdown, all they've done was give them more reason not to watch it. That, plus a paper thin roster with a lot of guys injured, and the remaining roster a bunch of jobbers, and you get attendance like that. They also did a great job making the fans think of NXT as a joke after season 3, so that's not a draw, that's an annoyance having to sit through an hour of it before Smackdown tapings start. Quick, when was the last time a Smackdown match main evented a PPV? Also, how telling is it that for 2 years in a row, the Smackdown title curtain jerked WrestleMania? They could have the next 10 Royal Rumble winners pick the Smackdown title for WM, it doesn't matter, because Raw will ALWAYS have the hot angle for the main event. The fans are conditioned to not care about this show. There's one more thing you are forgetting, which I guess could potentially contribute. Smackdown used to have this identity as the wrestling show, where there was consistently solid matches and more often than not, several 10+ minute matches in a single show. Now, they've just tried to make it Raw lite with lousy main events and multiple short and pointless matches. At least in 2007, when they had a guy like Taker, there were also guys like Matt Hardy and Rey Mysterio having 12-15 minute matches every week and all of them being damn solid. We might get one or two 12-15 minute matches on Smackdown a month now. Gotta agree with both here, especially the latter (about Smackdown being the wrestling show). At least last year, you would have Orton or Bryan or Ziggler or Christian putting on a classic. But now, Christian's out on injury, Orton's stuck in a completely pointless feud with a guy who hasn't been properly intimidating in about ten years, Ziggler's stuck feuding with (and jobbing to) a complete joke with a green sock on his hand, and all that time that use to be dedicated to putting on great matches is instead being used either to push stuff for RAW that wasn't important enough to actually be put on RAW, or completely fast-forward worthy sketches. Sometime between this week and last week, someone here compared Smackdown to WCW Thursday Night Thunder. Honestly, at the rate their going, in about a month that'll be seen as a compliment. |
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Post by Turd Ferguson on Apr 25, 2012 13:17:12 GMT -5
Did somebody's rival run in during a match and help you beat down your opponent? Cody Rhodes did attack The Big Show during his match. Oops, meant to say did YOUR rival run out and help you beat down your opponent. |
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Post by shallbejudged on Apr 25, 2012 13:25:36 GMT -5
Did somebody's rival run in during a match and help you beat down your opponent? Cody Rhodes did attack The Big Show during his match. It would've been more appropriate if Cody tried to drop a crate on Big Show's head, or rummaged through his bag and found a new attire for The Great Khali. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Apr 25, 2012 13:58:31 GMT -5
They only have themselves to blame for these turnouts. It's not just that Smackdown is the B-Show, because it always has been. It's the fact that the WWE has made every effort to let us know Raw is the only must see show to watch. It's live and Smackdown is taped. Nothing special happens on Smackdown. Would it have killed them to have HHH, Taker, or The Rock show up just ONCE on the Road to WrestleMania? Smackdown's top guys can show up on Raw, yet how often do Cena & Punk show up on Smackdown? An in effort to attract Raw only viewers to Smackdown, all they've done was give them more reason not to watch it. That, plus a paper thin roster with a lot of guys injured, and the remaining roster a bunch of jobbers, and you get attendance like that. They also did a great job making the fans think of NXT as a joke after season 3, so that's not a draw, that's an annoyance having to sit through an hour of it before Smackdown tapings start. Quick, when was the last time a Smackdown match main evented a PPV? Also, how telling is it that for 2 years in a row, the Smackdown title curtain jerked WrestleMania? They could have the next 10 Royal Rumble winners pick the Smackdown title for WM, it doesn't matter, because Raw will ALWAYS have the hot angle for the main event. The fans are conditioned to not care about this show. Cena needs to move to SmackDown. Keep him as a face, but let him fill the role that Undertaker did in the past as the guy that puts asses in seats but doesn't do much else other than having random feuds and matches. Have Lesnar destroy Cena to the point where Cena says, "I don't deserve to be the face of the WWE" and banishes himself to SmackDown. Cena can be another "Da Undatakah" only instead of Johnny Ace punishing heels by making them go one on one with Cena, Johnny punishes Cena by no longer putting him in marquee matches. However, Cena can still come to RAW for random matches. I actually picture them keeping the Supershow concept just for Cena and not having anyone else cross over. |
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Post by YeahYeahYeahYeahYeah on Apr 25, 2012 14:03:34 GMT -5
Looks like I'll be recording and fast-forwarding SmackDown again this week.
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Post by CH Punk on Apr 25, 2012 14:04:15 GMT -5
They only have themselves to blame for these turnouts. It's not just that Smackdown is the B-Show, because it always has been. It's the fact that the WWE has made every effort to let us know Raw is the only must see show to watch. It's live and Smackdown is taped. Nothing special happens on Smackdown. Would it have killed them to have HHH, Taker, or The Rock show up just ONCE on the Road to WrestleMania? Smackdown's top guys can show up on Raw, yet how often do Cena & Punk show up on Smackdown? An in effort to attract Raw only viewers to Smackdown, all they've done was give them more reason not to watch it. That, plus a paper thin roster with a lot of guys injured, and the remaining roster a bunch of jobbers, and you get attendance like that. They also did a great job making the fans think of NXT as a joke after season 3, so that's not a draw, that's an annoyance having to sit through an hour of it before Smackdown tapings start. Quick, when was the last time a Smackdown match main evented a PPV? Also, how telling is it that for 2 years in a row, the Smackdown title curtain jerked WrestleMania? They could have the next 10 Royal Rumble winners pick the Smackdown title for WM, it doesn't matter, because Raw will ALWAYS have the hot angle for the main event. The fans are conditioned to not care about this show. Cena needs to move to SmackDown. Keep him as a face, but let him fill the role that Undertaker did in the past as the guy that puts asses in seats but doesn't do much else other than having random feuds and matches. Have Lesnar destroy Cena to the point where Cena says, "I don't deserve to be the face of the WWE" and banishes himself to SmackDown. Cena can be another "Da Undatakah" only instead of Johnny Ace punishing heels by making them go one on one with Cena, Johnny punishes Cena by no longer putting him in marquee matches. However, Cena can still come to RAW for random matches. I actually picture them keeping the Supershow concept just for Cena and not having anyone else cross over. That was sort of the point of Randy Orton once he left the title picture and, once he started feuding with Cody Rhodes, Sheamus took that spot. Also, think of all the possible matches: - Cena vs Jinder Mahal
- Cena vs Heath Slater
- Cena vs Drew McIntyre
- Cena vs Hunico
- Cena vs Titus O'Neil
- and the most important of all: Cena vs Darren Young
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Apr 25, 2012 20:28:19 GMT -5
This smackdown is reading a lot like the story mode in Raw 2 Did somebody's rival run in during a match and help you beat down your opponent? This Smackdown needs Christopher Notwinski |
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Post by joebob27 on Apr 25, 2012 20:43:52 GMT -5
I thought it was funny when they had Punk go to a Smackdown, and he only appeared in the dark match. I think they do that with Cena from time to time, too, if the two shows are near each other.
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Post by Dean-o on Apr 25, 2012 21:41:44 GMT -5
I thought it was funny when they had Punk go to a Smackdown, and he only appeared in the dark match. I think they do that with Cena from time to time, too, if the two shows are near each other. I went to a Smackdown taping 2 weeks before WrestleMania, and Punk/Sheamus beat Bryan/Miz in the main event televised match. John Cena beat Kane in a 3 minute cage match that was poorly put together in about 90 seconds. Horrible all around. Between Punk, HHH (showed up after Superstars tapings) and Cena advertised, no wonder that Smackdown had a packed house in an arena that holds 19,000 for basketball games. |
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Post by J.O.B. Squad on Apr 26, 2012 0:04:24 GMT -5
I def wanna catch that Antonio Cesaro match...Have yet to see him on Smackdown yet.
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