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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2011 17:14:36 GMT -5
Great advice, if he was a real man he'd ignore doctors and become a delusional, bald near cripple with ugly kids. Who inspired so many other wrestlers into the buisness. Way to come off level-headed.
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Post by Square on Apr 12, 2011 17:15:45 GMT -5
Great advice, if he was a real man he'd ignore doctors and become a delusional, bald near cripple with ugly kids. Who inspired so many other wrestlers into the buisness. Way to come off level-headed. Hogan in the past 5 years has inspired 0 people.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Apr 12, 2011 17:16:03 GMT -5
It is not a scenario where you should be making it about yourself. And yes, in a way he is saying he is tougher than Edge. "Wrestlers work hurt" The posts after the criticism were him trying to backtrack and salvage his image. It is very sad that you are willing to defend him despite clear proof he screwed up, but your stubborn ways do amuse me. The man who admitted personally to hate hogan no matter what is saying I'm stubborn in my ways? Also, he did make it clear before his comments, so it wasn't just something he did after he got the attention for it. Hell, right after that "wrestlers work hurt" line, he says Edge is one of the boys who he bets would like to keep going. At no point did he put himself off as better He said that comment after he got crap for what he said.
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Post by Michael Coello on Apr 12, 2011 17:21:43 GMT -5
The man who admitted personally to hate hogan no matter what is saying I'm stubborn in my ways? Also, he did make it clear before his comments, so it wasn't just something he did after he got the attention for it. Hell, right after that "wrestlers work hurt" line, he says Edge is one of the boys who he bets would like to keep going. At no point did he put himself off as better He said that comment after he got crap for what he said. No, it was in the same tweet with the other one. See? Even going to his page, he said it way before he posted about clearing up his views
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Post by Error on Apr 12, 2011 17:24:35 GMT -5
Who inspired so many other wrestlers into the buisness. Way to come off level-headed. Hogan in the past 5 years has inspired 0 people. I'd say probably going on 10 years to be honest. We're reaching a generation of guys who will have very little of Hogan's influence in their careers. Yeah, he was big in the nWo but, he was gone a lot more than he was around.
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Post by grunt on Apr 12, 2011 17:28:58 GMT -5
To put the whole thing in context, when Hogan posted his two first messages, he had just learned via twitter that "Edge retired tonight. Looks legit too. Can't get medical cleareance for neck injury. Any thoughts on him? " Less than 140 characters to inform him of the entire situation. Nothing more. I can't really blame him for what he answered, under those conditions. He probably should have checked this info elsewhere, but hey, he's old, he probably can't surf the web. And up until is last tweet on that subject, 7 hours ago, he had some people twitting him that by talking about Edge's retirement, he was just falling for WWE storylines, cos the whole situation was fake.
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Post by Bram wants to 'urt you on Apr 12, 2011 17:29:51 GMT -5
The whole point of twitter is that it allows you to post clear, concise, SHORT comments about what is currently going on within your world.
The whole problem with this (and many other twitter users) is that clear, concise and short is exactly what they shouldn't be posting - the comments and attitudes they post need more explanation and clarification than can be given in a twitter posting.
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Post by stylesclashwoooo on Apr 12, 2011 17:37:40 GMT -5
I really honestly think That edge wouldnt care a jot about anything that hogan or anyone else says.
The thing i really like about edge (and christian) for that matter is they are one of us. They grew up living and breathing wrestling. They wernt footballers, or bodybuilders that fell into it by accident to make a few quid, but a couple of young kids who grew up idolizing the likes of hogan , flair etc and dedicated their lives to do the job they'd always dreamed of.
edge made his wrestling debut aged 19 (i think) and has had the kind of glittering career he could have only dreamed about. from being part of one of the best teams in tag team wrestling ever (in my opinion), during one of the best times of tag team wrestling, to breaking out on his own and winning 11 world titles he's done it all. He's held every single active mens title in the WWE and won 31 WWE titles overall (i think thats a record!).
Aside from the gold, he's been a part of some really unforgettable matches and defined himself as the ultimate opportunist. People will neverr forget that! Without question a first draft HOF pick, He has nothing left to do or nothing left to achieve or prove and retired as the current world champion with his last match being at wrestlemania. Even triple H wont get an ending like that!
i think if edge had been around when adam copeland was a young lad, then edge would have had one more fan. its impossible not to like or respect what he was and gave to us in the ring. And Doctors advice or not, id much rather he went out in good health, in his prime and at a time when we can remember him as awesome, then as an old man, half of what he once was, having to resort to blading himself night after night to pay the bills.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Apr 12, 2011 17:39:01 GMT -5
He said that comment after he got crap for what he said. No, it was in the same tweet with the other one. See? Even going to his page, he said it way before he posted about clearing up his views You are basing it on that article while not reading the actual posts. Big mistake as this guy had it wrong. After a few minutes of getting crap he said this........ After a few hours of getting more crap
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Post by Michael Coello on Apr 12, 2011 17:47:22 GMT -5
Except the line after is a continuation of the first, cause he typically ends his stuff with HH, so he didn't wait to fix it after he got crap for it, he was just posting a continuous stream of thought.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Apr 12, 2011 17:59:25 GMT -5
Except the line after is a continuation of the first, cause he typically ends his stuff with HH, so he didn't wait to fix it after he got crap for it, he was just posting a continuous stream of thought. If he wants to use a continuous stream of thought, use twitlonger......its simple and easy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2011 18:13:29 GMT -5
"I would be able to walk not in agony if I listened brother, but then brother the New World Order would never have happened and Hollywood Hulk Hogan wouldn't have ruled the world, BROTHER!" Which may have been for the best since Hogan would not have been known for helping to kill WCW and wouldnt be seen as a rotten apple. After this has been disapproved (countless times), you still cling to it as fact. Why? I'm not going to go over why WCW actually died (I've done so too many times.....some just want to stick to their theories), but Hogan or Nash or Russo were not the cause. Not even part of the cause. I agree what Hogan said was not very bright (he should have just said a nice comment about Edge and moved on), but the overreaction is unbelievable. Bret made worse shots about Hogan and Flair and posters here were applauding. We don't know these guys personally. Settle down.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Apr 12, 2011 18:17:42 GMT -5
Which may have been for the best since Hogan would not have been known for helping to kill WCW and wouldnt be seen as a rotten apple. After this has been disapproved (countless times), you still cling to it as fact. Why? I'm not going to go over why WCW actually died (I've done so too many times.....some just want to stick to their theories), but Hogan or Nash or Russo were not the cause. Not even part of the cause. I agree what Hogan said was not very bright (he should have just said a nice comment about Edge and moved on), but the overreaction is unbelievable. Bret made worse shots about Hogan and Flair and posters here were applauding. We don't know these guys personally. Settle down. I said he helped. I know who truly killed WCW, Hogan helped in its fall.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Apr 12, 2011 18:34:43 GMT -5
It is sad, Hogan & Flair were up until about four years ago tied in my mind for greatest of all time. Now I've lost nearly all respect I ever had for both men. I still respect Flair, but I feel sorry for him that his money situation is the way it is. But for Hogan to rip Edge like that, when I remember the July 4 2002 Smackdown when they won the Tag Titles together, disgusts me.
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Post by erisi236 on Apr 12, 2011 19:16:21 GMT -5
"Wrestlers work hurt"
True, but they sure as shit shouldn't, how many guys over the years have ended up in the ground OD'ing on stuff to help them "work through the pain"?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Apr 12, 2011 19:34:47 GMT -5
This is why I feel little pity for wrestlers who can't walk away and suffer later on in life. The same mentality Hogan and others of his generation have is the same one old time football players. Work hurt and do what ever it takes to keep in the game; no matter the consequences. So many former football players and pro wrestlers suffer from brain injury and various aliments that severely hindered their lifestyles later in life. Don't mock someone who have to give up something they love. Especially someone who idolized you. I respect Edge for walking away with his health intact instead of being like the Dynamite Kid. I wish Hogan and others would follow his example.
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Post by wcw on Apr 12, 2011 19:40:27 GMT -5
I think that Hogan was just saying that a lot of guys will die out there to wrestle if no one stops them but in the case of Edge his doctors did stop him. If you have made your money and a doctor tells you you can die in the ring if you keep going its hard to keep going. BUT guys will wrestle up till that point. At least thats what I got out of Hogan.
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Post by flatsdomino on Apr 12, 2011 19:58:17 GMT -5
Here's something I posted in the WWE Edge thread, I think it's relevant here: I think the generation we've been watching for the past decade or so are a group that isn't gonna hang on too long in the business. There's definitely passion there, but this is the first generation where most seem to have an exit strategy, or a backup plan. Pretty much everyone on the roster has a post secondart education now. Wrestling isn't the only thing these guys know now, so I think in the future we'll see more guys like JBL, Edge and HBK (even tho Edge wanted to go a little while longer, I'm gonna count him) and less guys like Flair, Hogan, etc. who have to still work This, and f*** all the "old guard" who'll rip on the younger guys for it. Thanks for paving the road, now GO AWAY.
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Post by Sektor on Apr 12, 2011 20:59:49 GMT -5
I think Hogan looked at Edge's injury the same way alot of people do. People think it's his neck and that he could still take bumps. In reality it's much much worse. His spinal column is becoming more and more narrow and theres less fluid to protect it. That goes beyond being hurt, one wrong fall and he could snap in half. Hell, a low impact car accident could kill him.
Hogans a moron, but I think he was trying to make Edge feel better.
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Post by CJ on Apr 12, 2011 21:01:23 GMT -5
After reading that last comment.... I don't see the problem. He called Edge a real wrestler and a lifer, one of the boys and somebody who is hard to hold down
it's really not that bad
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