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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 19, 2012 16:30:24 GMT -5
Yeah, a realistic person with a mouth like the Predator who commands armies of enemies at his side..
Dammit, this is why I don't like the realistic talk of these movies. It's a story of a man who dresses like a Bat and raises a group of young kids to fight off a town full of psychos, killers, and ruthless criminals, and Calender Man.
This is about the escapism of movies, dammit! I don't give a damn about goofy! It's whats right!
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Jan 19, 2012 16:32:45 GMT -5
All I have to say is his coat is fly as hell.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 19, 2012 16:34:19 GMT -5
Reserve all rights to wait till the movie and i suggest any complainers do as well. Christopher Nolan has more than earned that right.
Remember that in the comics, Joker didnt have the scars on his lips nor did he just have a painted face and nothing else (his whole skin was white if I remember).
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 19, 2012 16:38:25 GMT -5
Reserve all rights to wait till the movie and i suggest any complainers do as well. Christopher Nolan has more than earned that right. Not to me. He's a good director? Okay, I'll buy that, but he's not a good Batman director, though. Thus, I will continue to point out my issues with this series.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 19, 2012 16:39:19 GMT -5
Reserve all rights to wait till the movie and i suggest any complainers do as well. Christopher Nolan has more than earned that right. Not to me. He's a good director? Okay, I'll buy that, but he's not a good Batman director, though. Thus, I will continue to point out my issues with this series. The Dark Knight says that you need to stop whining. And Christopher Nolan is more than a good director.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 19, 2012 16:41:17 GMT -5
Not to me. He's a good director? Okay, I'll buy that, but he's not a good Batman director, though. Thus, I will continue to point out my issues with this series. The Dark Knight says that you need to stop whining. And Christopher Nolan is more than a good director. But Batman Begins says I can keep on whining.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 19, 2012 16:43:14 GMT -5
The Dark Knight says that you need to stop whining. And Christopher Nolan is more than a good director. But Batman Begins says I can keep on whining. Compared to the Batman films before that, Batman Begins is a freaking classic.
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Post by dav on Jan 19, 2012 16:45:41 GMT -5
Yeah, a realistic person with a mouth like the Predator who commands armies of enemies at his side.. It doesn't really matter about Bane's looks, it's personality and power that can bring a person to another's cause. In this upcoming movie, that's what Bane is, a terrorist who's attracting many to his mission.
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Post by Michael Coello on Jan 19, 2012 16:50:03 GMT -5
But Batman Begins says I can keep on whining. Compared to the Batman films before that, Batman Begins is a freaking classic. I've mentioned before that I find Begins to commit the unforgivable sin of being a boring film, until the last 30 minutes with the jailbreak and the fight on the train. Even with the worst Batman films like B&R, at least they weren't boring as all hell. Stuff actually happened in them, and the Batmen in those were likable. Different Strokes, I guess. I just am not excited to see this one, especially with a villain who I am not interested in seeing in Bane, who is taking up the most of the promotion and the potential screen time. Nolan may have proven that he knows what he's doing to others, but not to me.
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Post by Juice on Jan 19, 2012 17:00:48 GMT -5
Yeah, a realistic person with a mouth like the Predator who commands armies of enemies at his side.. Dammit, this is why I don't like the realistic talk of these movies. It's a story of a man who dresses like a Bat and raises a group of young kids to fight off a town full of psychos, killers, and ruthless criminals, and Calender Man. This is about the escapism of movies, dammit! I don't give a damn about goofy! It's whats right! hey I a, not disagreeing with you here, but Nolans made it pretty clear from the tone and style of the first two that this is pretty much as realistic as it could get. That's just the Nolanverse for you. Sometimes his attitude about things works and sometimes it annoys me. But that being said his Bane appears to look pretty badass as is and I will argue that it's not out of the realm of possibility that a charismatic man with this militant look could rally an army. It kind of happens every day. Terrorist groups all over the globe have proven this to be true. Hell Charles manson and cult leaders have done similar things on a scale both small and wide spread. This Realisitc bane is totally buyable. Furthermore I have not bothered reading any plot or possible spoilers, but I have a feeling bane is leading an army of Al Ghul supporters.
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Post by erisi236 on Jan 19, 2012 17:04:17 GMT -5
It is what it is.
Which in my case another Nolan Bat film I'll half watch whenever it happens to be on TNT or whatever.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 19, 2012 17:07:59 GMT -5
I've mentioned before that I find Begins to commit the unforgivable sin of being a boring film, until the last 30 minutes with the jailbreak and the fight on the train. Even with the worst Batman films like B&R, at least they weren't boring as all hell. Stuff actually happened in them, and the Batmen in those were likable. Different Strokes, I guess.Different strokes indeed. The things you mention as flaws with Begins are the exact reasons I found it to be the most enjoyable of all the Batman films. What you found boring, I found engaging. No film wins universal praise. I've enjoyed Nolan's work on Batman so far, so I'll be checking it out.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jan 19, 2012 17:23:05 GMT -5
Cartoony Batman has been done. The 60s tv show, Batman Forever, and Batman & Robin are good and bad in their own ways. I always thought Batman to be darker. I mean, his parents are murdered, and he goes on to want to rid his city of scum and villainy. The Burton movies, while inaccurate, at least took it seriously to some extent. As a huge Batman fan myself, I like the darker grittier take on the character. I think the Nolan movies are phenomenal, because he is taking them seriously as well. I see on here that a lot of people think the animated series got it perfect. I thought that the animated series took the darker route as well, so what is the problem with Nolan's version now? That being said, I am foaming at the mouth for July. I am even more thrilled because they filmed a good deal of it in Pittsburgh, my stomping grounds. I am excited to just go and do the, "Oh, I know where that's at!" game. I don't like Batman to come off as a Loony Toon. He should be dark and brooding, and I think these movies are going to hold up a lot better than anything before or after. Although, I do like Batman '89 and Batman Returns. Add, I was also in the, "Why in the hell did he pick Ledger?!?", camp when it was announced, and Ledger and Nolan shut me up. In Chris I trust.
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Post by AztecaDragon on Jan 19, 2012 17:31:50 GMT -5
I didn't expect them to cast some ridiculously ripped guy who towered over Batman who is already a tall guy himself, so I can understand there not being a size difference.
However, they just had to cast a white guy as Bane? I guess Hardy's going to be okay in the role but man....really?
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Post by Juice on Jan 19, 2012 17:43:31 GMT -5
I didn't expect them to cast some ridiculously ripped guy who towered over Batman who is already a tall guy himself, so I can understand there not being a size difference. However, they just had to cast a white guy as Bane? I guess Hardy's going to be okay in the role but man.... really? Almost as silly as them casting all enlgish folks
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Post by AztecaDragon on Jan 19, 2012 17:45:53 GMT -5
Almost as silly as them casting all enlgish folks Wait...wha? I was referring to the Whitewashing of Bane.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 19, 2012 17:51:57 GMT -5
I'd just like to make a point about what some people arte saying about how they can't buy Bane as a guy who can beat Batman.
In the original Knightfall comics, the entire plot Bane had devised was designed around the fact that he knew that physically he couldn't beat Batman at his peak, hense the whole gauntlet thing he'd set up by opening up Arkham Asylum. He only broke Batman's back because the latter was too exhausted to defend himself.
Just looking at the trailers, they seem to be inspired a lot by this plot and I think based on this fact that it's believeable that Bane isn't some hulking goliath who could crush Batman with his hands. But instead he's a strong and incredibly smart guy who can match Batman blow for blow when the latter's chips are slightly down. I have a lot of hope that this movie will deliver in a big way.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 19, 2012 18:21:39 GMT -5
Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. The main reason I started this thread was to defend Tom Hardy as the choice to play Bane, which I think I did. I understand that some fans want to see comic book style action with mega-special effects and fantasy/sci-fi oriented origin stories such as exist in the comics. But I think there is something to be said for the fact that this is exactly what we got in Batman and Robin, and it almost ended up killing the genre. Nolan's more reality based take on it was kind of inevitable after that and it breathed new life into the whole franchise. The main reason I defend Tom Hardy and Bane overall for this film is that I feel Nolan has done a good job of establishing the idea that Batman is human and can be hurt no matter what he is facing, so even though Hardy is shorter than Bale it is still not beyond belief that his Bane could seriously injure Bale's Batman.
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Post by Cela on Jan 19, 2012 18:42:25 GMT -5
Almost as silly as them casting all enlgish folks Wait...wha? I was referring to the Whitewashing of Bane. Isn't Bane Spanish, aka white?
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Post by Juice on Jan 19, 2012 18:45:16 GMT -5
Almost as silly as them casting all enlgish folks Wait...wha? I was referring to the Whitewashing of Bane. I was just kidding, but it's weird that Bale, Osmond, Hardy, Temple are all English, Marion Cotillard is French. I just became amused by the fact that All of the films leads and many of the supporting cast of a batman film are all European.
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