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Post by BigWill on Oct 14, 2011 21:38:19 GMT -5
Rock/Cena being on the PPV doesn't mean they should just do anything with the title matches. The other matches should still be put together with the idea of drawing interest. WWE is right to still be thinking about which matches will be 'bigger'. It still a Wrestlemania title match, and should still be a big deal, regardless. Not sure if this post is refering to my post, but a good match can get people interested too. All I'm saying is I think it would be better to make sure you can get a quality match out of the Smackdown main event, rather than just throwing together two superstars for no reason other than the fact that they are the most over.
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Post by Cronant on Oct 14, 2011 21:42:10 GMT -5
Rock/Cena being on the PPV doesn't mean they should just do anything with the title matches. The other matches should still be put together with the idea of drawing interest. WWE is right to still be thinking about which matches will be 'bigger'. It still a Wrestlemania title match, and should still be a big deal, regardless. Not sure if this post is refering to my post, but a good match can get people interested too. All I'm saying is I think it would be better to make sure you can get a quality match out of the Smackdown main event, rather than just throwing together two superstars for no reason other than the fact that they are the most over. And all the guys considered on Smackdown can have a 'good match' relatively speaking, so I'm not sure where the concerns about the match would be from. Its not like we're talking about Khali or anything.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Oct 14, 2011 21:44:27 GMT -5
The people that have to be on the Wrestlemania card in my opinion, in addition to the already set Cena/Rock match...
Alberto, Big Show, Christian, Henry, Punk, Cody, Bryan, Dolph, Kane if he's back, Kofi, R-Truth, Orton, Sheamus, The Miz, and Trips will probably be wrestling somewhere.
And someone has to face Undertaker.
And then if you can force them in people like Swagger, Barret, Ryder, and Bourne too. Too bad there's no MITB anymore for them. Morrision will be gone.
I'm really quite concerned as to how it all fits together right now.
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Post by Rican on Oct 14, 2011 21:46:57 GMT -5
What they SHOULD have done was ended the Miz/Riley feud from a few months ago with a loser leaves RAW match, moved Miz to SD, eventually have him win the world title and have Miz vs. Bryan at Wrestlemania. That way you'd have the feud that started on the first season of NXT come full circle and totally make Bryan by having him go over a super over heel. I guess they could still do this if Miz for some reason made the jump and won SD's Elimination Chamber but it wouldn't be the same.
I think Ziggler would have made more sense as R-Truth's partner in the whole conspiracy angle anyway. He had way more of a case for it. Hell he got screwed out of a 2 hour world title reign.
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Post by Some Guy on Oct 14, 2011 21:49:22 GMT -5
The people that have to be on the Wrestlemania card in my opinion, in addition to the already set Cena/Rock match... Alberto, Big Show, Christian, Henry, Punk, Cody, Bryan, Dolph, Kane if he's back, Kofi, R-Truth, Orton, Sheamus, The Miz, and Trips will probably be wrestling somewhere. And someone has to face Undertaker. And then if you can force them in people like Swagger, Barret, Ryder, and Bourne too. Too bad there's no MITB anymore for them. Morrision will be gone. I'm really quite concerned as to how it all fits together right now. Well, at this time last year, the top heel in the WWE was Wade Barrett and he would have absolutely fit in the upper part of your picture. Then came Mania, and he was in a throwaway eight man tag that lasted two seconds. Honestly, it's too early to think about this outside of trying to build Bryan up.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Oct 14, 2011 21:51:15 GMT -5
Wow Riley too. He fits in the "if you can force them in too bad there's no more MITB" category for me though.
Oh and what if Jericho comes back... blargh.
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Post by BigWill on Oct 14, 2011 21:52:07 GMT -5
Not sure if this post is refering to my post, but a good match can get people interested too. All I'm saying is I think it would be better to make sure you can get a quality match out of the Smackdown main event, rather than just throwing together two superstars for no reason other than the fact that they are the most over. And all the guys considered on Smackdown can have a 'good match' relatively speaking, so I'm not sure where the concerns about the match would be from. Its not like we're talking about Khali or anything. That's true. I just don't like the idea of Bryan vs. Henry getting shot down just because they aren't top stars. Not only does it have potential to be a good match, but the storyline that the match could revolve around has the potential to be epic. And I'm not too fond of Henry vs. Sheamus instead of Bryan just because they think it could be more "marketable". Not only has this match already been done multiple times, but the matches they have had weren't all that great.
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Post by mrjl on Oct 14, 2011 21:59:29 GMT -5
Bryan should cash in against either Miz or Punk. With the Supershows it should be doable.
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Post by BigWill on Oct 14, 2011 22:00:51 GMT -5
Except for the fact that Bryan can only cash in on the world champion.
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Post by therealsk on Oct 14, 2011 22:06:50 GMT -5
Bryan just isn't World Champion material right now and Sheamus is a guy who could become a huge mainevent face for a long time. I just don't see that in Bryan.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Oct 14, 2011 22:08:03 GMT -5
A heel Orton against a babyface Bryan? A major star who consistently gets huge pops is expected to be booed against a midcarder who regularly comes out to dead silence? There are people genuinely trying to suggest that this is a plausible scenario? For Wrestlemania?
That's not speculation. That's not even smarkbait. That's the imbecilic ravings of a deranged mind.
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Post by primetime110 on Oct 14, 2011 22:31:36 GMT -5
Bryan just isn't World Champion material right now and Sheamus is a guy who could become a huge mainevent face for a long time. I just don't see that in Bryan. This.
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Post by diegorivera on Oct 14, 2011 22:43:02 GMT -5
Bryan has got more than enough talent to main event Mania, but the crowds just aren't with him. I'd rather see him loose the MITB briefcase and gradually be built in the mid-card and take the IC strap from Rhodes at WM.
Make it Orton/Shamus/Henry for the WHC. That will give the SD main a bit of polish in the Rock/Cena wake.
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Post by Throwback on Oct 14, 2011 23:02:44 GMT -5
what made WM3 so great was it had Hogan vs Andre for the entertainment fans and Steamboat vs Savage for the wrestling fans.
So for this we already have the entertainment draw with Rock vs Cena so we need something to draw in the wrestling fans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2011 23:05:27 GMT -5
what made WM3 so great was it had Hogan vs Andre for the entertainment fans and Steamboat vs Savage for the wrestling fans. So for this we already have the entertainment draw with Rock vs Cena so we need something to draw in the wrestling fans. That's probably what Punk will be up to. Drawing in the hardcore fans.
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Post by gnr123 on Oct 14, 2011 23:25:45 GMT -5
Now, I sincerely think WWE is missing a big boat by not having Henry vs. Bryan. Build up Mark Henry as this dominate beast, and he goes on this very long World Title reign. Hell, make him beat The Undertaker at Royal Rumble, allow him to win the Elimination Chamber, than after all this said is done all that's left is this little pip-squeak Daniel Bryan comes out with his Money in the Bank briefcase and challenges Mark Henry to a match at Wrestlemania.
Nobody thinks Bryan can win, but Bryan not only wins the match, he makes Mark Henry tap out.
And besides, not enough mass appeal? They have The freakin' Rock vs. John Cena! That's enough mass appeal for one night. Plus, it'll be a great way to build up Daniel Bryan as a legit beast and put him hugely over with his first World Championship reign.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Oct 14, 2011 23:28:55 GMT -5
Personally I think the best idea would be to go with Mark Henry vs Daniel Bryan as Mark Henry could keep playing that monster heel who is basically unstoppable and Daniel Bryan playing this underdog, who in strength could never beat Henry.......but he goes a route Mark isnt used to which is a more methodical approach with targeting Mark's legs and making the big man not be able to get up.
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Post by Wade Barrett = WRESTLING GOD!! on Oct 15, 2011 0:45:01 GMT -5
Sheamus Vs. Mark henry in the Current state But if they turn Orton Heal they HAVE To have Orton Vs. Bryan IMO
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2011 0:50:33 GMT -5
Now, I sincerely think WWE is missing a big boat by not having Henry vs. Bryan. Build up Mark Henry as this dominate beast, and he goes on this very long World Title reign. Hell, make him beat The Undertaker at Royal Rumble, allow him to win the Elimination Chamber, than after all this said is done all that's left is this little pip-squeak Daniel Bryan comes out with his Money in the Bank briefcase and challenges Mark Henry to a match at Wrestlemania. Nobody thinks Bryan can win, but Bryan not only wins the match, he makes Mark Henry tap out. And besides, not enough mass appeal? They have The freakin' Rock vs. John Cena! That's enough mass appeal for one night. Plus, it'll be a great way to build up Daniel Bryan as a legit beast and put him hugely over with his first World Championship reign. This. Make Mark Henry a dominant champion in defeating the likes of Big Show, Kane, Undertaker, Sheamus, and to lose to Daniel Bryan in Wrestlemania in the ultimate underdog match.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Oct 15, 2011 1:37:47 GMT -5
I'm still convinced they need to go with a huge David vs Goliath match in Bryan vs Henry. The only way Bryan's title reign isn't going to end up a Swagger level debacle though is if they start building up Bryan now. Enough is enough, let the man start kicking some ass. If they don't, then they're just wasting their time putting Bryan in a title match at Mania. When the E treats you as if you're not a big deal, why should the fans?
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