Bo Rida
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 19, 2011 17:24:39 GMT -5
R-Truth declares that he is the Raw GM and Miz admits that he was the “bigger picture” behind nexus, as the real anonymous GM is AWOL everybody has to go along with it until the real conspiracy is revealed.
OK it wouldn’t fix anything (if it needs fixing) but R-Truth in charge could be great and I want to see a board meeting featuring HHH, Teddy Long, Zack Ryder, Miz and R-Truth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 17:25:42 GMT -5
There is one thing they could do that would put Raw on the road to recovery, and it wouldn't cost a cent:
Have Cena, and maybe Trips, put over up and coming midcarders. (before you say anything, "put over"doesn't have to mean "lay down for")
Then with their cred established, they can rub off on the lower card. With the lower card invigorated, the show as a whole will slowly get better.
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Sept 19, 2011 17:28:09 GMT -5
Mark Henry: Live Sex Celebration.
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Post by Zombo is back! Woo! Woo! Woo! on Sept 19, 2011 17:28:51 GMT -5
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Post by angryfan on Sept 19, 2011 17:30:07 GMT -5
I find myself somewhat agreeing with Slim, but I still have that "the hell is THIS?" feeling from time to time. RAW, and WWE in general, has gone from must see starting when I was 5 until a few years ago. THen, it became "I enjoy many of the performers, and can overlook most of the stupidity, or at least laugh at it". THen, it just changed. THe Punk storyline struck me as "different" enough to warrant pulling me back in, but with the reservation of "as long as it doesn't go the way I think, it will keep my interest". Thus far, sadly, everything since Vince was replaced by Trips hasn't had any of that "wow, this is different" feeling that pulled me back. It became what drove me away, that "everything follows this pattern, and you're not the audience anymore". I still love wrestling, always have and always will, but the quick push of the reset button that they tend to go for now just isn't for me. I see them bringing in new "creative team" members, and part of me hopes that this will lead to an influx of new ideas, new plot twists or directions that haven't been done over and over again, but it just doesn't happen. I love a lot of the talent, respect the hell of them, but the direction of "safe is best" that leads to nothing just isn't for me. As a guy who was a loyal customer for decades, and who literally bought every PPV they had for a six year period, it is a bit sad. Most companies wouldn't try to jettison loyal customers like WWE does, but on the positive side it saves me money. I can see that. I'll admit for a LOT of the time over the last few years, it's background noise while I do something else; but even then, I can't get upset about it. I get what you're saying, figure I'll qualify it. There have been shows I have LOVED over the years, watched them faithfully, bought the seasons on VHS, DVD, or whatever format was available at the time. Translation, I was a loyal customer. WWF/E specifically, and wrestling in general) was the same way. I got hooked in 1982/83, would beg to watch the PPV's when they started some years later (NWA and WWF both). I had the toys, I had the VHS tapes, somewhere I have a vinyl copy of Piledriver for God's sake. When I got my first job, I would save up and use the money to get PPV's, and if I couldn't afford them I'd watch at a friend's house. From 1996 (freshman year in college) through 2002, I bought every PPV that the company (as well as WCW and ECW) put out. Put simply, I loved it, even the corny stuff I'd pay to see because I enjoyed it even when it was laughably stupid. Even if it had me rolling in that "oh God, that SUCKED" sense, it was worth it in an MST3K sense. The direction, the "you WILL like this" attitude I see from creative, like I said I just feel like "ok, they've had me as a customer, and the direction has moved away from me". I still pay attention, I'll catch stuff online, and maybe tune in every once in a while. I'll grab a DVD if it really interests me. Basically, taking it back to any other TV show that I was a loyal viewer of, it's like a drama saying "well, we were a cop show, and these characters that our fans rave about, we're changing it. It's now a puppet show and the characters you like will be on sparingly, and made fun of when they are". I still love what it was, and can appreciate performance, but I'm not going to spend money on something that claims to be one thing but does everything it can to be something else.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 19, 2011 17:30:32 GMT -5
Mark Henry: Live Sex Celebration. At her age, and with Mark being monster heel now, we'd see Mae Young die via said celebration.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 19, 2011 17:31:19 GMT -5
I can see that. I'll admit for a LOT of the time over the last few years, it's background noise while I do something else; but even then, I can't get upset about it. I get what you're saying, figure I'll qualify it. There have been shows I have LOVED over the years, watched them faithfully, bought the seasons on VHS, DVD, or whatever format was available at the time. Translation, I was a loyal customer. WWF/E specifically, and wrestling in general) was the same way. I got hooked in 1982/83, would beg to watch the PPV's when they started some years later (NWA and WWF both). I had the toys, I had the VHS tapes, somewhere I have a vinyl copy of Piledriver for God's sake. When I got my first job, I would save up and use the money to get PPV's, and if I couldn't afford them I'd watch at a friend's house. From 1996 (freshman year in college) through 2002, I bought every PPV that the company (as well as WCW and ECW) put out. Put simply, I loved it, even the corny stuff I'd pay to see because I enjoyed it even when it was laughably stupid. Even if it had me rolling in that "oh God, that SUCKED" sense, it was worth it in an MST3K sense. The direction, the "you WILL like this" attitude I see from creative, like I said I just feel like "ok, they've had me as a customer, and the direction has moved away from me". I still pay attention, I'll catch stuff online, and maybe tune in every once in a while. I'll grab a DVD if it really interests me. Basically, taking it back to any other TV show that I was a loyal viewer of, it's like a drama saying "well, we were a cop show, and these characters that our fans rave about, we're changing it. It's now a puppet show and the characters you like will be on sparingly, and made fun of when they are". I still love what it was, and can appreciate performance, but I'm not going to spend money on something that claims to be one thing but does everything it can to be something else. Oh I get what you're saying totally, makes perfect sense.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 17:34:18 GMT -5
Mark Henry: Live Sex Celebration. With a debuting Rosie Lottalove
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Post by joebob27 on Sept 19, 2011 17:34:57 GMT -5
I can see that. I'll admit for a LOT of the time over the last few years, it's background noise while I do something else; but even then, I can't get upset about it. I get what you're saying, figure I'll qualify it. There have been shows I have LOVED over the years, watched them faithfully, bought the seasons on VHS, DVD, or whatever format was available at the time. Translation, I was a loyal customer. WWF/E specifically, and wrestling in general) was the same way. I got hooked in 1982/83, would beg to watch the PPV's when they started some years later (NWA and WWF both). I had the toys, I had the VHS tapes, somewhere I have a vinyl copy of Piledriver for God's sake. When I got my first job, I would save up and use the money to get PPV's, and if I couldn't afford them I'd watch at a friend's house. From 1996 (freshman year in college) through 2002, I bought every PPV that the company (as well as WCW and ECW) put out. Put simply, I loved it, even the corny stuff I'd pay to see because I enjoyed it even when it was laughably stupid. Even if it had me rolling in that "oh God, that SUCKED" sense, it was worth it in an MST3K sense. The direction, the "you WILL like this" attitude I see from creative, like I said I just feel like "ok, they've had me as a customer, and the direction has moved away from me". I still pay attention, I'll catch stuff online, and maybe tune in every once in a while. I'll grab a DVD if it really interests me. Basically, taking it back to any other TV show that I was a loyal viewer of, it's like a drama saying "well, we were a cop show, and these characters that our fans rave about, we're changing it. It's now a puppet show and the characters you like will be on sparingly, and made fun of when they are". I still love what it was, and can appreciate performance, but I'm not going to spend money on something that claims to be one thing but does everything it can to be something else. Yeah, I agree with that. I could watch old Youtubes all day long and sometimes I do. lol. There's just been a shift in the product over the last x number of years. Even stupid things like the Lita Love Pentagon had something redeeming about them. I could watch the Edge/Lita wedding over and over again, no matter how stupid it was. I understand they had to change direction but IMO the change isn't that good. It's like a watered down 80's product with no foils and the superfaces aren't nearly as compelling.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 19, 2011 17:35:40 GMT -5
Mark Henry doing any kind of dance steps.
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Post by Y2M on Sept 19, 2011 17:37:01 GMT -5
Vince McMahon returns and says the last month was all a dream and that he's still COO of the company.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Sept 19, 2011 17:38:01 GMT -5
Mark Henry: Live Sex Celebration. With a debuting Rosie Lottalove Oh, that's a license to print money, right there. Just have them doin' it over Gerald Levert's "You Got That Love," and they could actually beat Monday Night Football!
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Post by lemonyellowson on Sept 19, 2011 17:38:38 GMT -5
punk goes apeshit, takes everyone out.
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Post by joebob27 on Sept 19, 2011 17:48:22 GMT -5
Shane comes back and reminds people he still owns WCW. Later in the show, Disco Inferno attacks Mark Henry. He leaves on a backboard.
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Post by jadison on Sept 19, 2011 17:57:21 GMT -5
I tried the flipside of this yesterday but it got thrown into the pit that is the post PPV thread. People actually *liked* the booking of the show. WHY? Why was it good? How would you use these good results to branch out further and create a logical storyline that sells? Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but for some reason when people say something is bad, the burden of proof is on them. But when someone says something is good, they don't have to back it up. So in that vein, how was the booking of any of the last three matches good? Again, I expect silence. You know, you're making my point. Its a show, we should really just relax. I love wrestling, but come on...its really hard to take THAT seriously. So far everything in the storyline has made sense, after appearing not to at first. Its kind of a pattern, we should wait and see where things lead. If you're watching a show to judge how "good" (whatever that means) the booking is, you're probably not going to enjoy it period because you're not watching from the viewpoint of a fan anymore, you're watching from "this is what I would do here". Like any tv show, film, music, etc., you have to let it take you for a ride instead of having so many expectations.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Sept 19, 2011 17:57:46 GMT -5
Mark Henry re-ignites the DX/Nation feud by throwing Triple H through a wall while The Rock laughs on the Titanttron.
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Post by joebob27 on Sept 19, 2011 18:00:49 GMT -5
I tried the flipside of this yesterday but it got thrown into the pit that is the post PPV thread. People actually *liked* the booking of the show. WHY? Why was it good? How would you use these good results to branch out further and create a logical storyline that sells? Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but for some reason when people say something is bad, the burden of proof is on them. But when someone says something is good, they don't have to back it up. So in that vein, how was the booking of any of the last three matches good? Again, I expect silence. You know, you're making my point. Its a show, we should really just relax. I love wrestling, but come on...its really hard to take THAT seriously. So far everything in the storyline has made sense, after appearing not to at first. Its kind of a pattern, we should wait and see where things lead. If you're watching a show to judge how good the booking is, you're probably not going to enjoy it period because you're not watching from the viewpoint of a fan anymore. It's just like any other TV show. If the stories are stupid, people are going to lose interest. And no, it hasn't made sense. The storyline was Punk vs. the world with Cena as the world's proxy. That's not what it is now.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 18:01:00 GMT -5
Grimace does an 810 Splash on Michael Cole as Rico gives Edge a makeover in the background.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Sept 19, 2011 18:03:25 GMT -5
New Nation with Mark Henry, R-Truth, and Miz
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Sept 19, 2011 18:11:01 GMT -5
New Nation, Kane in green DX outfit, Madusa attacking Kelly Kelly with the WWF womens title, and Stephanie McMahon wearing a macho man t-shirt.
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