AJ is a great actor

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She is indeed a great versatile actor for a WWE Diva.

But it is not simply because she has perfected being crazy but because ever since the dbry thing started she has had to convincingly go from being in love , to being heart broken , to psychotic and if all signs read right she will have had to play a manipulative bitch to put it nicely.

Most divas struggle to do one of those without corpsing or just flat out failing , AJ has had to convincingly play up all these emotions in such quick time even multiple times within the same segment , IMO she may be the most versatile diva acting wise wwe has ever had.

[celticjobber]

Yeah, AJ is a tremendous actress. The innocent doe-eyes she gave Kane and the skipping were great.

Did anyone else hear a guy in the crowd shout "Kane's got a woody!" at one point when AJ was in the ring with him?

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Jun 12, 2012 18:30:26 GMT -5 kidglov3s said:

Tiger Maskoo, going sacred cow tipping. Laycool was hella over, they would often get the loudest boos of the night, as would Vicki. AJ inspires reactions in guys pants more than anything else, at least that explains the discrepancy between her Kingston Pops that I can never quite manage to hear and the vociferous online praise that I can never help but read.

Your comments about AJ sum up my thoughts on Laycool pretty well, actually. Their fans tell me they were over, but my TV/computer screen and speakers say otherwise. What I heard and saw was Michelle's music hitting at the 2010 Rumble and the crowd reacting as if they had never seen her before in their lives even though she just spent over two months mocking and embarrasing the very popular Mickie James. What I heard and saw was them getting the crowd to stop booing within seconds of heat magnet Vickie Guerrero introducing them and their music hitting.

And just to be clear, I'm not say AJ is any different. I agree with you about her not being over as is sometimes claimed.

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Jun 12, 2012 18:30:26 GMT -5 kidglov3s said:

Tiger Maskoo, going sacred cow tipping. Laycool was hella over, they would often get the loudest boos of the night, as would Vicki. AJ inspires reactions in guys pants more than anything else, at least that explains the discrepancy between her Kingston Pops that I can never quite manage to hear and the vociferous online praise that I can never help but read.

All anyone here is saying that they like what she's doing, not that she gets these huge pops. Right now, her character is in this strange state where the fans aren't sure how to react, but they're certainly interested. It's not all about who gets the biggest reaction when they walk down the ramp or when their music hits. This isn't some simple mean girl or shriek for cheap heat gimmick, she's not even solidly heel or face.

I'll take an interesting character and storyline over generic heat machines any day.

[g1megatronfan]

As far as Divas go she's pretty good. One thing she's not so good at is emotions. During the Bryan segment where he said he wished she was never born...she was "crying" but it just looked so fake. Mickie James was able to be a sympathetic character even as a psycho because she knew how to really master certain emotions. Look at Mickie crying when McCool does the Piggie James promo...it looked real even though it was storyline.

Look at AJ trying to cry when she gets hurt...totally fake and not very sympathetic. As for her crazy act...it's okay but Mickie and Victoria did it better. Mickie's Ashley present segment w/Trish still blows anything AJ has done out of the water. Now that is how someone plays a total nutcake.

Having said all that...AJ's character does have potential. I just hope they don't do the obvious and put her back with Bryan on Sunday. They should have her get her revenge and then push her to the title. WWE desperately needs divas with personality and she's the closest thing they've got. I think the cutesy psycho character could really take off if done correctly. Look at the Kane match last night as proof of that. They would be fools to throw it away for an asanine heel turn.

[Jimmy]

Jun 12, 2012 22:29:37 GMT -5 g1megatronfan said:

Look at AJ trying to cry when she gets hurt...totally fake and not very sympathetic. As for her crazy act...it's okay but Mickie and Victoria did it better. Mickie's Ashley present segment w/Trish still blows anything AJ has done out of the water. Now that is how someone plays a total nutcake.

I dunno, Mickie as the psycho just didn't feel that real to me. I enjoyed it, but it didn't draw me into the story at hand like this has.

I think AJ's crazy act is better than Mickie's and Victoria's because she's not just darting her eyes back and forth or looking angry; she generally looks like an innocent happy girl until suddenly she focuses on something. And really, it's a much more low-key form of craziness.

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Jun 12, 2012 22:52:23 GMT -5 Jimmy said:

Jun 12, 2012 22:29:37 GMT -5 g1megatronfan said:

Look at AJ trying to cry when she gets hurt...totally fake and not very sympathetic. As for her crazy act...it's okay but Mickie and Victoria did it better. Mickie's Ashley present segment w/Trish still blows anything AJ has done out of the water. Now that is how someone plays a total nutcake.

I dunno, Mickie as the psycho just didn't feel that real to me. I enjoyed it, but it didn't draw me into the story at hand like this has.

I think AJ's crazy act is better than Mickie's and Victoria's because she's not just darting her eyes back and forth or looking angry; she generally looks like an innocent happy girl until suddenly she focuses on something. And really, it's a much more low-key form of craziness.

Victoria I do not even consider that a psycho that was just a woman with serious rage issues.

Mickie was a great psycho in that over the top movie type of psycho.

AJ IMO is a much more frightening psycho as her motives are completely up in the air , when she sat in the ring last night and started just kind of bobbing her head...that was right there with Mickies best psycho moment with the shrine of trish.

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Jun 12, 2012 18:30:26 GMT -5 kidglov3s said:

Tiger Maskoo, going sacred cow tipping. Laycool was hella over, they would often get the loudest boos of the night

Laycool was like the female version of the In Crowd. They were IWC dreamboats, but the only response they got was canned. Michelle in particular was notorious for never being as over as the E wanted her to be no matter what they did.

Hell, even on these boards she was maligned daily with a very vocal minority defending her every move

[BigJerichool222]

Ah yes, I remember the amazingly hypocritical and unoriginal McRibs "insult" that still lingers here every now and then.

[norsisclouds]

Jun 12, 2012 13:32:17 GMT -5 Tiger Maskooo said:

Jun 12, 2012 13:10:34 GMT -5 Bo Rida said:

I'm not sure it's fair to directly compare those two examples, times have changed since the attidude era.

I'll grant you that times have changed. I'll even go further and say that crowds wanting women to be cut down has precedent. The way in which the crowd loved Jericho cutting down Stephanie comes to mind as does the heat that Sherri used to get and how they would cheer and cheer when warrior would throw her down.

However,they were heels. AJ was supposed to be sympathetic.


Even in the attitude era where stone cold would get cheered for stunning man,child or woman...Debra...a vastly inferior performer to elizabeth was able to get sympathy for getting f***ed around by Jeff Jarrett. Sable got sympathy for being dicked around by marc mero.

I mean,sure wrestling evolves but I figure if you're a woman in an angle where you're getting abused and you dont get sympathy for it even after you cry and run away...I think somethings wrong with you as a performer.

^I think AJ is great and worlds better than a lot of women on the roster, but I think I've also said this before as well.

No offense to the guys here, but it's pretty obvious to me that most of the reaction she's getting is based on how attractive people find her...I'm not saying she's not talented. I'm not saying she isn't trying hard and working at wrestling, but it's a bit similar to say, the initial reactions to Trish Stratus before she became Trish Stratus. She was hot. Guys liked her, but there wasn't a true appreciation for her ability for her ability. It was really couched in this pronounced sexual aura she had, not necessarily what would later become known as her skill playing a character, on the mic, or working in the ring.

AJ reminds me of this--and not in a Mickie James way either, because Mickie was immediately over not just for being attractive, but because it was obvious that she was an extremely skilled character actor.

I think that's why most of what you get from the crowd are whistles, hoots when she does something sexy, but not really a sympathetic or empathetic reaction when she does something that should elicit that response.

I think it will come though, as time passes and crowds get used to her, but I have to roll my eyes when people go on about her talent. Trust me, I believe that she is VERY talented...moreso than many of the women are, but she's not exactly getting people to appreciate that yet. They are responding to her sexuality for now, but the good news is that can change and they can get into that later, as they did for Trish down the line.

[BigJerichool222]

^ Mickie was immediately over because lesbians are hot.

[Kevin Hamilton]

I wouldn't call her great by ANY stretch; but she's certainly improved. Which is good, because she sucked even a few weeks ago. Now she's not terrible, and as mentioned certainly better than most of the divas, and on par with some of the better guys.

[norsisclouds]

Jun 13, 2012 13:37:59 GMT -5 BigJerichool222 said:

^ Mickie was immediately over because lesbians are hot.

That's also true which I've found troubling.

I'm not attracted to women, so I liked her for her acting, but I really facepalm when people gush about how they need to do another "lesbian angle" like Mickie James.

[Welfare Willis]

Jun 13, 2012 13:37:59 GMT -5 BigJerichool222 said:

^ Mickie was immediately over because lesbians are hot.

The man speaks the truth.

[Kevin Hamilton]

Jun 13, 2012 13:40:32 GMT -5 norsisclouds said:

Jun 13, 2012 13:37:59 GMT -5 BigJerichool222 said:

^ Mickie was immediately over because lesbians are hot.

That's also true which I've found troubling.

I'm not attracted to women, so I liked her for her acting, but I really facepalm when people gush about how they need to do another "lesbian angle" like Mickie James.

Especially since they clearly don't mean actual lesbians, but like 'porno lesbians'.

[norsisclouds]

Jun 13, 2012 13:41:31 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

Jun 13, 2012 13:40:32 GMT -5 norsisclouds said:

That's also true which I've found troubling.

I'm not attracted to women, so I liked her for her acting, but I really facepalm when people gush about how they need to do another "lesbian angle" like Mickie James.

Especially since they clearly don't mean actual lesbians, but like 'porno lesbians'.

It's very wrestling fan in the basement softcore porn facepalm worthy. In a way I think it undervalues the amount of work Mickie put into that angle when it gets diminished to panty upskirt shots and lipstick lesbian overtones--especially when Trish became the bad guy in Chicago because she was turning down Mickie's psychotic advances and sexual assaults.

In any case, sexual overtones aside, Mickie was still great in that role, and she wrote and pitched the angle herself...the success of angles that women pitched to Creative (Victoria's stalker angle/Lita Trish Feud 04/Laycool, Michelle claims to have pitched it) makes me wonder if other women just suck at pitching good ideas...

[hotshotalex]

She's just pandering to people who like interesting characters in wrestling.

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Jun 13, 2012 13:37:01 GMT -5 norsisclouds said:

Jun 12, 2012 13:32:17 GMT -5 Tiger Maskooo said:

I'll grant you that times have changed. I'll even go further and say that crowds wanting women to be cut down has precedent. The way in which the crowd loved Jericho cutting down Stephanie comes to mind as does the heat that Sherri used to get and how they would cheer and cheer when warrior would throw her down.

However,they were heels. AJ was supposed to be sympathetic.


Even in the attitude era where stone cold would get cheered for stunning man,child or woman...Debra...a vastly inferior performer to elizabeth was able to get sympathy for getting f***ed around by Jeff Jarrett. Sable got sympathy for being dicked around by marc mero.

I mean,sure wrestling evolves but I figure if you're a woman in an angle where you're getting abused and you dont get sympathy for it even after you cry and run away...I think somethings wrong with you as a performer.

^I think AJ is great and worlds better than a lot of women on the roster, but I think I've also said this before as well.

No offense to the guys here, but it's pretty obvious to me that most of the reaction she's getting is based on how attractive people find her...I'm not saying she's not talented. I'm not saying she isn't trying hard and working at wrestling, but it's a bit similar to say, the initial reactions to Trish Stratus before she became Trish Stratus. She was hot. Guys liked her, but there wasn't a true appreciation for her ability for her ability. It was really couched in this pronounced sexual aura she had, not necessarily what would later become known as her skill playing a character, on the mic, or working in the ring.

AJ reminds me of this--and not in a Mickie James way either, because Mickie was immediately over not just for being attractive, but because it was obvious that she was an extremely skilled character actor.

I think that's why most of what you get from the crowd are whistles, hoots when she does something sexy, but not really a sympathetic or empathetic reaction when she does something that should elicit that response.

I think it will come though, as time passes and crowds get used to her, but I have to roll my eyes when people go on about her talent. Trust me, I believe that she is VERY talented...moreso than many of the women are, but she's not exactly getting people to appreciate that yet. They are responding to her sexuality for now, but the good news is that can change and they can get into that later, as they did for Trish down the line.

Well that makes no sense, you say she's VERY talented but then say she's only getting love for because she's hot? Men aren't THAT blinded by attractiveness, not all of us. Also, she has to be attractive for the role she's playing, that's part of the whole package so to say that people are only liking it because they find her hot is way too speculative, and not true in my case.

And the whole "she got no heat being in an abuse angle", it wasn't all that "abusive", Bryan was just a dick to her sometimes, by the time he really amped it up he was already crazy over. It was all timing issues, the Wrestlemania "Yes" thing wasn't the beginning of Bryan becoming popular, it was the culmination of him getting popular over the few months before.

Anyway, I don't see why the discussion has to go to past performance and how big her reaction is when she comes out, when this thread started from someone appreciating her talent. Saying "well in this angle this happened, and she doesn't get this reaction" isn't even relevant.

[trollrogue]

Jun 12, 2012 12:59:45 GMT -5 Dolly Hard-On said:

Last night made me 100% an AJ fan. Everything she was in was just fantastic.

Had to edit this comment to announce my LOL at the phrase "Kingston Pops" to describe lukewarm crowd response.

Kingston Pops>>>>> Conway Pops, and it's just a fun phrase to say!! (funny because it's true)

[RPD88]

I agree, I'm enjoying it, I'm starting to come round to AJ, must be because I dig crazy chicks