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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jun 29, 2012 15:45:40 GMT -5
I haven't heard people say this about the cruiserweights though. And both TNA and WWE have booked their CW divisions terribly numerous times. As for the analogy, I really don't think this distaste for the divas comes from the product. It doesn't. I honestly think that if they had Ayako Hamada, Mercedes Martinez, or someone around that range were wrestling guys (which both have before) or each other, it wouldn't matter, they'd still want them gone. I was hearing this same thing when the KOs division was at it's height. So you think people who want the Divas gone only want them gone because they're women? Funny enough, I don't. That's a generalization. There are plenty of reasons to want the divas gone. I just think that there's a major double standard applied on women's wrestling in general, especially the divas. From the top, to the fans. But that is besides the original point. So, to go all the way back, I just think chrisc hates women's wrestling. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 16:00:08 GMT -5
It should bother you because it's a bad analogy. If black wrestlers were part of a separate division that was booked even worse than the main product, then yes I wouldn't want to see it. It wouldn't be because they were black. It would be because the product they were a part of (this fictional black-only division" sucked. I haven't heard people say this about the cruiserweights though. And both TNA and WWE have booked their CW divisions terribly numerous times. As for the analogy, I really don't think this distaste for the divas comes from the product. It doesn't. People have a better opinion of the cruiserweights than the Divas division because the only time the cruiserweights were not thousands of miles better was when there was a joke champion like Oklahoma or Hornswoggle and unfunny comedy was involved. Bad cruiserweight title matches were almost always matches that were meant to be comedy but weren't funny. |
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Post by PKO on Jun 29, 2012 19:35:54 GMT -5
I really don't see the point in going into every thread about divas and saying the same "I don't like the divas, theyre not talented" speech...every...time.
It's getting to be like those posters who would go into The Miz threads and basically copy and paste the same speech over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 19:50:59 GMT -5
So you think people who want the Divas gone only want them gone because they're women? I am not accusing the poster who started this line of speaking of but I can say for a fact we have had several people post here that have said flat out they want the females gone because they are female and have no place in wrestling. theres also plenty of people who post in various cena divorce threads who baselessly go around damning Cenas soon to be ex and the idea of marriage overall because "women are awful and will divorce you for all your moneys". So the whole anti-woman bias is a thing here. |
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Post by edgestar on Jun 29, 2012 20:09:28 GMT -5
WWE Has come to terms on the release of diva battleroyals. We wish them well in their future endeavors.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 20:10:23 GMT -5
I really don't see the point in going into every thread about divas and saying the same "I don't like the divas, theyre not talented" speech... every...time. It's getting to be like those posters who would go into The Miz threads and basically copy and paste the same speech over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Since when is that not the case for positive opinions? I can't count how many times the same people have said WWE needs to do more with the Divas or mentioned multiple times how hot their favorite Diva is. And when they do, I couldn't care less how often they say it. If someone thinks Beth Phoenix needs to be pushed more or thinks AJ is the most entertaining thing in WWE right now, they can say it once or 10 times a day every day for all I care. |
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Post by PKO on Jun 29, 2012 20:29:50 GMT -5
I really don't see the point in going into every thread about divas and saying the same "I don't like the divas, theyre not talented" speech... every...time. It's getting to be like those posters who would go into The Miz threads and basically copy and paste the same speech over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Since when is that not the case for positive opinions? I can't count how many times the same people have said WWE needs to do more with the Divas or mentioned multiple times how hot their favorite Diva is. And when they do, I couldn't care less how often they say it. If someone thinks Beth Phoenix needs to be pushed more or thinks AJ is the most entertaining thing in WWE right now, they can say it once or 10 times a day every day for all I care. That's because hearing positive thoughts isn't half as irritating as hearing the same negatives over and over again whenever given half a chance. But then again, I like positivity. There are plenty of people I don't like which I'll talk about if there's a tread about that. But I wouldn't go into every thread where that person is mentioned to say the same thing over and over again because I don't see any point. |
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Post by Talent Name on Jun 29, 2012 20:35:44 GMT -5
In regards to Maxine can we just leave the mammories alone. There are still some better divas than her both on the roster and in FCWNXT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 20:48:38 GMT -5
Since when is that not the case for positive opinions? I can't count how many times the same people have said WWE needs to do more with the Divas or mentioned multiple times how hot their favorite Diva is. And when they do, I couldn't care less how often they say it. If someone thinks Beth Phoenix needs to be pushed more or thinks AJ is the most entertaining thing in WWE right now, they can say it once or 10 times a day every day for all I care. That's because hearing positive thoughts isn't half as irritating as hearing the same negatives over and over again whenever given half a chance. But then again, I like positivity. There are plenty of people I don't like which I'll talk about if there's a tread about that. But I wouldn't go into every thread where that person is mentioned to say the same thing over and over again because I don't see any point. No difference to me. If people want to repeat their view that Kelly Kelly is awful when she is mentioned or say "Dat ass" just about every single time a new picture of their favorite Diva is posted in the Divas thread, they can go right ahead. |
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Post by PKO on Jun 29, 2012 21:38:32 GMT -5
That's because hearing positive thoughts isn't half as irritating as hearing the same negatives over and over again whenever given half a chance. But then again, I like positivity. There are plenty of people I don't like which I'll talk about if there's a tread about that. But I wouldn't go into every thread where that person is mentioned to say the same thing over and over again because I don't see any point. No difference to me. If people want to repeat their view that Kelly Kelly is awful when she is mentioned or say "Dat ass" just about every single time a new picture of their favorite Diva is posted in the Divas thread, they can go right ahead. I don't get why someone would want to write the same negative paragraph in every thread related to something they don't like over and over again. Just seems like it would be really boring. Maxine was gone from the WWE.com superstars page when I just checked. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2012 22:59:51 GMT -5
No difference to me. If people want to repeat their view that Kelly Kelly is awful when she is mentioned or say "Dat ass" just about every single time a new picture of their favorite Diva is posted in the Divas thread, they can go right ahead. I don't get why someone would want to write the same negative paragraph in every thread related to something they don't like over and over again. Just seems like it would be really boring. Maxine was gone from the WWE.com superstars page when I just checked. I don't bash the Divas in every Divas thread, and several of my Diva-related posts have been in defense of certain Divas when I disagreed with negative comments about them. Regarding Maxine, I do feel kinda bad for her. I read someone on another site asking if she was one of Brodus Clay's dancers. |
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Post by percymania on Jun 29, 2012 23:16:10 GMT -5
I haven't read this whole thread, but I'm disappointed. I liked Maxine.
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Post by CH Punk on Jun 29, 2012 23:20:21 GMT -5
Maxine was gone from the WWE.com superstars page when I just checked. She's been moved to the alumni section. |
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jun 30, 2012 3:03:03 GMT -5
I noticed that some NXT'ers have tweeted #thankyouMaxine
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jun 30, 2012 7:24:30 GMT -5
I liked Maxine. I think the WWE could have used her better because they had actually built her character up, so she could have stood out. She wanted more exposure as a character. Was it ego or gutsy to ask for what she asked for? I don't know, but this is the same company that rewarded the Bellas when they threatened to quit if they weren't put on the road. But it seems the word 'guarantee' is a dirty word unless you're a top talent, so it's no wonder they let her walk.
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Post by Krimzon on Jun 30, 2012 8:17:40 GMT -5
I haven't heard people say this about the cruiserweights though. And both TNA and WWE have booked their CW divisions terribly numerous times. As for the analogy, I really don't think this distaste for the divas comes from the product. It doesn't. I honestly think that if they had Ayako Hamada, Mercedes Martinez, or someone around that range were wrestling guys (which both have before) or each other, it wouldn't matter, they'd still want them gone. I was hearing this same thing when the KOs division was at it's height. 1. The Cruiserweight Division, at its lowest, has never been as bad or worthless as the Divas Division. The Cruisers never had an average match time of 1 minute and they still had some effort from creative, even if the bare minimum. As for the Divas, it honestly comes off like they couldn't give less of a shit about them. 2. The distaste for the Divas DOES come from the product. They are viewed as worthless because the WWE has made them worthless. 3. Then you're wrong. They have Kharma and some people have said that they'd love it if she wrestled guys. I'm one of them. 4. I don't know where you were before, but you didn't hear that here. |
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