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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 17:27:37 GMT -5
It would be nice to have some sort of something to make the Grand Championship more interesting. For one, I almost had a heart attack when I saw one of the Bravados against Eddie, until I saw it was non-title. (And why is he having singles non-title matches anyway?) It looks really bad when people in the company are pointing out how bad the contender selection process is. This is why it would be great to finally have the Kingston/Dreamer one-on-one match at N3 for the title. Make it a short 8-10 minute match before intermission and have King go over. |
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Aug 15, 2012 17:45:55 GMT -5
For all of those who say that some of us, myself included, are being negative and that we should chill out, let me put it to you like this. Remember when WCW was red hot, were killing Vince, and making money hand over fist? During this time there were those who saw that were a few warning signs coming and that WCW should do something before the backlash started. But Bischoff, who thought himself as a wrestling genius and totally untouchable, continued to stay the course. What happened? The nWo got stale, they started making mistakes right and left, they had no future plans, they booked on the fly and a few short years later they sold the company for buffalo nickels to the guy they had over a barrel.
Why am I bringing this up? Because believe it or not, and I'm going to bold this just so I'm making this totally clear I WANT CHIKARA TO SUCCEED and part of that is calling them out when they do something wrong. Some might disagree, and they are entitled to, but in my opinion the booking this season has been utterly dire. So in order to try to help the company in my own tiny percentage of a decimal of a fraction way, I'll say something is wrong when I feel that it is. For every thing that has gone right (3.0 winning CDP, Archie vs Touchdown) there have been three things gone wrong (Young Bucks, Titles mean nothing, SUBMISSION SQUAD). If that paints me as a Gloomy Gus, fine, but as it stands this season, in my opinion, has been way below par and Chikara needs to right the ship before they become ROH.
To put it in much shorter and way easier to understand terms, Quackenbush may become to Chikara as to what George Lucas has become to Star Wars.
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Aug 15, 2012 21:12:02 GMT -5
Okay, I haven't seen the Submission Squad, but instead of everyone being doom and gloom and acting like one tag team is going to kill CHIKARA dead, why not give them a chance? Trish Stratus was absolutely horrible as a wrestler and went on to be one of the best Divas of all time. Odds are, they won't make it out of the first round, come back to lose in the Tag Gauntlet, and not get another shot in CHIKARA. It's not like they're winning the CdP by forfeit or something.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 15, 2012 21:31:11 GMT -5
It would be nice to have some sort of something to make the Grand Championship more interesting. For one, I almost had a heart attack when I saw one of the Bravados against Eddie, until I saw it was non-title. (And why is he having singles non-title matches anyway?) It looks really bad when people in the company are pointing out how bad the contender selection process is. This is why it would be great to finally have the Kingston/Dreamer one-on-one match at N3 for the title. Make it a short 8-10 minute match before intermission and have King go over. .....How does that solve anything about making the title look dull? That's what King's been doing anyway. Defending against random people in dominant matches. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2012 21:51:55 GMT -5
This is why it would be great to finally have the Kingston/Dreamer one-on-one match at N3 for the title. Make it a short 8-10 minute match before intermission and have King go over. .....How does that solve anything about making the title look dull? That's what King's been doing anyway. Defending against random people in dominant matches. Umm, a legend like Dreamer puts King over and the belt over as the "most prized title in professional wrestling". Dull or not, it's just the simple way to go. Of course, "simple" is the worst thing to do according to this place.  |
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Aug 15, 2012 21:57:18 GMT -5
Do you want to know the best and most simple way to put Kingston over as champ? Give him a war. The man thrives when there is someone who is a very real and dangerous threat to him. Make him human and vulnerable. Beat him down. Give the fans the idea that he can lose. It's that easy. As it is now it's just a revolving door of challengers with no build up and predictable results.
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 15, 2012 22:01:03 GMT -5
.....How does that solve anything about making the title look dull? That's what King's been doing anyway. Defending against random people in dominant matches. Umm, a legend like Dreamer puts King over and the belt over as the "most prized title in professional wrestling". Dull or not, it's just the simple way to go. Of course, "simple" is the worst thing to do according to this place. No, simple would be fantastic. Simple would be using the guys you have(ESPECIALLY your champion) in feuds and programs, instead of leaning on guest stars like Marty "One for Three" Jannetty or a bloated, coked out Justin Credible. That's simpler, cheaper, and makes the company look like it's own entity, instead of feeding off the scraps from the big boys. Now, the World Champ is dull, the secondary title's spent a year in exile, the tag team champs are around for maybe a show every other month, the "top heel stable" is floundering(at best), and the rest of the card.......well, who cares? They're not gonna get a proper program because we've GOT to showcase this obscure Japanese talent that only Quack and people that follow some obscure joshi promotion have heard of. |
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Aug 15, 2012 22:17:51 GMT -5
Umm, a legend like Dreamer Your argument became invalid right there. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Aug 15, 2012 23:06:41 GMT -5
I wonder how much (if at all) the poor title reign is at all due to Claudio getting signed by the WWE.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Aug 15, 2012 23:13:14 GMT -5
Claudio, Brodie Lee, Vin Gerard, Amasis, Tursas, Hieracon, and SDR is quite a lot of talent to lose, especially with their new students being just Touchdown and Saturyne.
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Aug 16, 2012 0:58:15 GMT -5
Claudio, Brodie Lee, Vin Gerard, Amasis, Tursas, Hieracon, and SDR is quite a lot of talent to lose, especially with their new students being just Touchdown and Saturyne. Not so much Hieracon but everyone else is a huge loss. I imagine that the Wrestle Factory is doing gangbusters right now, I wonder why so few have made the grade. |
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Post by Richard on Aug 16, 2012 1:05:08 GMT -5
Claudio, Brodie Lee, Vin Gerard, Amasis, Tursas, Hieracon, and SDR is quite a lot of talent to lose, especially with their new students being just Touchdown and Saturyne. Not so much Hieracon but everyone else is a huge loss. I imagine that the Wrestle Factory is doing gangbusters right now, I wonder why so few have made the grade. Wasn't it based in the Arena? If so I'd think that probably threw a huge monkey wrench into things until they found a new place and set it up. Plus Claudio left and I think Quack was injured shortly before or after that with back issues so they probably ran behind. |
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 16, 2012 1:06:56 GMT -5
Claudio, Brodie Lee, Vin Gerard, Amasis, Tursas, Hieracon, and SDR is quite a lot of talent to lose, especially with their new students being just Touchdown and Saturyne. Not so much Hieracon but everyone else is a huge loss. I imagine that the Wrestle Factory is doing gangbusters right now, I wonder why so few have made the grade. Hieracon, I feel, was bad luck mixed with bad timing. Jon Gresham is a very talented wrestler, but he was stuck in A) a gimmick that he didn't come up with, and B) Amasis' injury completely derailed the Portal. The combination of those two things really killed him dead for the crowd. |
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Post by Steveweiser on Aug 16, 2012 6:42:24 GMT -5
This week's Event Center previews the Midwest weekend with the final stages of the Young Lions Cup, plus comments from The Swarm and The Batiri.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Aug 16, 2012 9:23:45 GMT -5
Claudio, Brodie Lee, Vin Gerard, Amasis, Tursas, Hieracon, and SDR is quite a lot of talent to lose, especially with their new students being just Touchdown and Saturyne. I wonder why so few have made the grade. Just listen to The swarm,that place is a hellhole. |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Aug 16, 2012 9:46:44 GMT -5
It's official...  Looks like they're going to try and apply the Freebird rule for the tournament and enter a 4 man Trios team. |
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Aug 16, 2012 10:00:12 GMT -5
Hey at least they are not from the 90's or women.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2012 10:28:14 GMT -5
My problem with the international guests is that none of them are going to big stars in the future, or weren't big stars in the past. Both Joshi promotions as far as I am aware are on the bottom level of Joshi-dom, which isn't exactly hiding high as it is. With previous King of Trios, we got the likes of Kota Ibushi (current IWGP Junior Heavyweight Champion), Daisuke Sekimoto or Michinoku Pro's team in 2011. This isn't to knock the current joshis, but with the exception of Manami Toyota (and that's debatable) and to lesser extent Meiko Satomura, they just don't measure up with what CHIKARA's given up in the past in term of international stars.
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Post by Steveweiser on Aug 16, 2012 10:33:26 GMT -5
 8/16/2012: Usually when I write these blogs, I try to fill them with clever anecdotes, sarcastic remarks or fun stories. This won't be the case here, kids (sorry to disappoint.) I have one thing and one thing alone to address: 3 points. On June 23rd in Strathroy, Ontario, "Big Magic" and I secured our second point at the expense of the Bravado Brothers and since then, we've been begging to get booked in a tag team match. Not a trios match, or atomico match, or a 4-corner elimination match. A tag team match. Wink Vavasseur, this blog is directed at you. I don't know if this oversight has been due to some sort of personal issue you have with Shane and myself, or if it's the fact that you are completely oblivious to the way things work (personally, I'm hoping it's the first option) but for a tag team to not have a tag team match in almost two months doesn't seem right to me. I understand that most of your attention is consumed with King Of Trios, since it is the biggest tournament in all the land. And you have hand-picked the trios to the best of your ability. Whether we partner with Gran Akuma, or at other times El Generico, 3.0 are still a tag team. A tag team on a quest. Those 35 days in the Promised Land were not nearly enough to satisfy us. We need to bring CHIKARA back there. We need to bring the golden belts back from Ring of Honor. We're just the men for the job. Booya! SJP |
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Post by Ultimo Chocula on Aug 16, 2012 10:59:38 GMT -5
Hey at least they are not from the 90's or women. You know, we've explained our position over and over again. You know that's not the case. Get some new material. |
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