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Post by Todd's crazy , Man. on Aug 17, 2012 18:08:27 GMT -5
Undertaker's not in the top ten?..HE HUNG A GUY AND KIDNAPPED THE BOSSES DAUGHTER.
Seriously he should be a lot higher then HHH since that girl he kidnapped went on to be HHH"s damn wife.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 17, 2012 18:09:41 GMT -5
Undertaker's not in the top ten?..HE HUNG A GUY AND KIDNAPPED THE BOSSES DAUGHTER. Seriously he should be a lot higher then HHH since that girl he kidnapped went on to be HHH"s damn wife. He didn't just hang "a guy"...he hung the Bossman! That's like kicking the Devil in the nuts!
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Post by steamboat1 on Aug 17, 2012 21:51:58 GMT -5
Bobby Heenan was the #1 villain in wrestling from 1979 to about 1990. How he isn't #1 boggles my mind.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 17, 2012 21:54:23 GMT -5
Undertaker's not in the top ten?..HE HUNG A GUY AND KIDNAPPED THE BOSSES DAUGHTER. Seriously he should be a lot higher then HHH since that girl he kidnapped went on to be HHH"s damn wife. Being placed lower on the list is HHH's way of burying him for kidnapping Steph.
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Post by mizerable on Aug 17, 2012 22:14:43 GMT -5
I'm very happy to see all the great support of Bossman. He was indeed a complete dick. It was amazing.
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Post by thegame415 on Aug 18, 2012 2:50:33 GMT -5
Vince McMahon is without a doubt the greatest heel ever. For once, putting him at the top of the list would've been fine. I think my top 5
5. Piper 4. JBL 3. Roberts 2. Dibiase 1. McMahon
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Post by blues on Aug 18, 2012 6:20:59 GMT -5
wtf no John Cena?!
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Post by CubsFan71 on Aug 18, 2012 9:09:37 GMT -5
Where the hell is Mr. Fuji???
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Post by Mac on Aug 18, 2012 9:21:55 GMT -5
McMahon is a run away #1 IMO, but I cant complain about anything in the top 10.
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Post by baerrtt on Aug 18, 2012 9:25:11 GMT -5
When I lived in New York I was lucky to attend WWF shows in the mid 80s where Piper was doing one of his Pits on the cards. And trust me to this day the heat that guy got from the crowds with the stuff he said (more often than he did) I've never personally seen with another wrestling heel.
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Post by trillionaireted on Aug 18, 2012 9:29:28 GMT -5
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 18, 2012 9:39:54 GMT -5
Okay I've got to ask. I didn't watch wrestling back in Piper's hey-day but was he really that good a heel of deserving the #1 spot above such bastards like Vince, heel 'Taker and 2000 era Triple H (God I despised him then!)
The only clip the WWE ever seem to play of him is hitting someone with a coconut... which seems kinda tame compared to stuff other heels have done.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Aug 18, 2012 10:05:36 GMT -5
Im searching frantically up and down that list and can't seem to find the definition of Villain...William Regal.
Where in the Blueblood Hell is he???
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 18, 2012 10:13:21 GMT -5
The problem with Piper at #1 is that he really wasn't a heel for that much of his career. He was basically a heel from 1984-86 and was a face quite a bit in the NWA and I can't recall any lengthy decent heel run he had since the Adonis feud. I would say Rude and Dibiase would both go above Piper. Was Rude EVER a face?
I am shocked at the lack of Shawn Michaels on this list. I spent most of 1992-95 despising him as a heel, and his early DX run in 1997-98 was quite possibly the best heel run in any company ever. I know that I hated him so much that I cheered for a guy I never liked before then (Austin) to beat him. Let's review the epic scumbaggery of DX Shawn:
--Turned on the Undertaker and left him laying after he and HHH joined forces. --Beat the British Bulldog in the UK after Bulldog dedicated the match to his sister that had cancer. --Somehow came out on top vs. Taker at HIAC due to Kane's debut. --Got the world title in the biggest screwjob in the history of wrestling vs. Bret in Montreal. --Yet again screwed Taker in the casket match. --Acted like a total dick on TV each and every week from Aug. 1997 to March 1998.
After all that who wasn't ready to buy a ticket to see this guy lose? Take a look at that list and what did Piper do by comparison? Hit Jimmy Snuka with a coconut?
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Post by apolloniajames on Aug 18, 2012 10:14:56 GMT -5
I'm actually surprised at the lack of Stephanie.
And of course WHAR BOSSMAN WHAR?
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 18, 2012 10:16:30 GMT -5
Okay I've got to ask. I didn't watch wrestling back in Piper's hey-day but was he really that good a heel of deserving the #1 spot above such bastards like Vince, heel 'Taker and 2000 era Triple H (God I despised him then!) The only clip the WWE ever seem to play of him is hitting someone with a coconut... which seems kinda tame compared to stuff other heels have done. Piper drew heat like a black fleece sweater in the middle of July in San Antonio. Everything he said, did, every gesture or mannerism he made just lead to the crowd wanting to see him dead. Plus, he basically helped build the company by acting as Hogan's foil during the year that Hulkamania truly took off. Honestly, my favorite measure of a great heel isn't the angles he's involved in, it's how much heat he could draw just by acting as himself, and Piper was damn near the king of that.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 18, 2012 11:12:11 GMT -5
Bobby Heenan was the #1 villain in wrestling from 1979 to about 1990. How he isn't #1 boggles my mind. He was more of a comedy villain. You hated him but you also laughed at him. Compared to things like Jake Roberts having a cobra bite Randy Savage or Raven brainwashing the Sandman's son, the Brain was more of an annoyance than downright evil.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Aug 18, 2012 11:14:32 GMT -5
Don't forget Piper was the most hated man in Los Angeles during his run there, inciting riots with such tactics as saying he was going to interview Mrs. Guerrero (he feuded with Chavo, who was beloved) and bringing out a burro. Or saying that to apologize for such things, he would be back next week to play the Mexican national anthem on his bagpipes. The next week, he came out and played "La Cucaracha."
I don't know if I'd put him #1 or not. Of course, all of these lists are subjective. One could argue (as JBL did) that Gorgeous George should be #1 based on his own heat as well as his influence, which spread to Muhammad Ali and James Brown as well as generations of wrestlers.
I don't really buy Edge as one of the greatest heels ever. Maybe it's just me, but I never found that guy all that believable. I definitely don't think he should have been listed over Freddie Blassie, who made people in Japan have heart attacks and had acid poured on him in LA.
I don't really think Moolah belongs.
I'm really surprised that Buddy Rogers isn't on the list.
Good to see Ernie Ladd get some props. The Big Cat was an equal opportunity offender.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Aug 18, 2012 11:20:37 GMT -5
Good to see Ernie Ladd get some props. The Big Cat was an equal opportunity offender. "I will slap yo' face in the presence of your parents!!"
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Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Aug 18, 2012 11:27:44 GMT -5
I get why he's not(he was never a long term WWF/E guy), but the Sheik should have cracked the top ten, no doubt. Dude ruled Detroit/Toronto with an iron fist, and he was THE villain of that territory.
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