Jazzman
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 7, 2012 20:51:32 GMT -5
LOL Diaz came in half a pound over and after a second weigh in now has .2 to lose in an hour in a half or so. Diaz made it around a half-hour ago. Title fight is on. Also, Dana announced that the winner of Gustafsson/Shogun will get the shot at the winner of Jones/Sonnen, basically freezing out Hendo again if he beats Machida @ 157. |
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 7, 2012 21:10:49 GMT -5
So.....when is Hendo getting a shot? I guess he needs to go to the same clown school that Sonnen went to if he wants that shot.  |
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 7, 2012 21:14:43 GMT -5
So.....when is Hendo getting a shot? I guess he needs to go to the same clown school that Sonnen went to if he wants that shot. Got me, I assume if he finishes Machida and Gustafsson/Shogun sucks hard he can sweep that shot. |
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 7, 2012 21:18:42 GMT -5
How in the world does beating Brandon Vera get you a title contention fight?
Vera has been exposed over and over again as much ado about nothing I feel. I don't have a problem with Gustafsson getting a number 1 contender's fight but Shogun hasn't done anything to get something like that.
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Post by molson5 on Dec 7, 2012 21:30:17 GMT -5
Henderson had his shot, and he injured himself. I don't have a problem with penalizing people or freezing them out of big fights if they can't stay healthy. Injuries are a huge problem, there needs to be some incentive to train in such a way that you can actually fight when scheduled.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 7, 2012 21:31:58 GMT -5
Henderson had his shot, and he injured himself. I don't have a problem with penalizing people or freezing them out of big fights if they can't stay healthy. Injuries are a huge problem, there needs to be some incentive to train in such a way that you can actually fight when scheduled. In no other sport is someone penalized for being hurt. I mean, you don't see an NFL team who makes the super bowl not be allowed to play because a star player on that team got injured mid-season. It's not like he meant to get hurt. Then again, unless you impress Zuffa with buffoonery, I guess it takes more to get a title shot. |
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Post by molson5 on Dec 7, 2012 23:18:32 GMT -5
Henderson had his shot, and he injured himself. I don't have a problem with penalizing people or freezing them out of big fights if they can't stay healthy. Injuries are a huge problem, there needs to be some incentive to train in such a way that you can actually fight when scheduled. In no other sport is someone penalized for being hurt. I mean, you don't see an NFL team who makes the super bowl not be allowed to play because a star player on that team got injured mid-season. It's not like he meant to get hurt. Then again, unless you impress Zuffa with buffoonery, I guess it takes more to get a title shot. If you miss the super bowl because you're injured they don't setup a new super bowl for you to play in once you're healthy. Injuries are a HUGE part of other sports. Jacoby Ellsbury is a great player for the Red Sox, and they're looking to trade him, but interest is pretty low because he's constantly injured. When he misses a game, you never get it back. So I'd say other sports are much more harsh on injuries than the UFC, though the UFC is moving towards a different direction more recently as so many of their shows go down the tubes. I don't think these injuries are these random, unavoidable occurrences. Guys over-train. It should be discouraged. I wouldn't build a show around Henderson when there's a less than 50% chance he'll actually be able to do it. Where on the flip side, guys who can keep themselves healthy when they train could get preferential booking treatment. This is part of the sport, IMO, staying healthy and making your fights. |
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Post by zeez on Dec 7, 2012 23:36:58 GMT -5
Henderson had his shot, and he injured himself. I don't have a problem with penalizing people or freezing them out of big fights if they can't stay healthy. Injuries are a huge problem, there needs to be some incentive to train in such a way that you can actually fight when scheduled. In no other sport is someone penalized for being hurt. I mean, you don't see an NFL team who makes the super bowl not be allowed to play because a star player on that team got injured mid-season. It's not like he meant to get hurt. Then again, unless you impress Zuffa with buffoonery, I guess it takes more to get a title shot. Well if I was Dana I wouldn't be too anxious to book a title fight with the guy who got injured and purposely didn't tell Zuffa about it for three weeks, which resulted in the first cancelled card in UFC history a week and a half before it was supposed to take place. Then again, he's about to give a title shot to a guy who lost his last fight and is coming off a year-long drug suspension, and also gave up a title shot because he couldn't be bothered to do his media commitments, so who knows what Dana will do. |
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Post by Jazzman on Dec 8, 2012 1:23:08 GMT -5
In no other sport is someone penalized for being hurt. I mean, you don't see an NFL team who makes the super bowl not be allowed to play because a star player on that team got injured mid-season. It's not like he meant to get hurt. Then again, unless you impress Zuffa with buffoonery, I guess it takes more to get a title shot. Well if I was Dana I wouldn't be too anxious to book a title fight with the guy who got injured and purposely didn't tell Zuffa about it for three weeks, which resulted in the first cancelled card in UFC history a week and a half before it was supposed to take place. Then again, he's about to give a title shot to a guy who lost his last fight and is coming off a year-long drug suspension, and also gave up a title shot because he couldn't be bothered to do his media commitments, so who knows what Dana will do. Dana will continue to do what he's always done and that's run the UFC like a business over a sporting league. That can be the only reason he's doing what he's done these past few months. He needs to create huge buyrates for PPV mains, especially those with title fights. He's spread so thin with events that he needs his PPV's to be big money events and the easy way to do that is to go with more marketable fighters even that means that fights aren't as competitive as they could be. Maybe it's because it's some of my favorite fighters who got jobbed this year for bigger names. First Hendo for Sonnen, then Hendricks for Diaz and too and extent Korean Zombie for Edgar and the rest of the guys in front of him in the rankings. If you're going to win fights and do it in exciting and dominant fashion and get passed over because you lack "marketability" on Dana's scale, that isn't your fault, that's the fault of Zuffa for being so thinly spread. |
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Post by Cela on Dec 8, 2012 14:52:08 GMT -5
UFC 157... Rousey... and Hendo Machida? IN MY BACK YARD!!!! YES!
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Dec 8, 2012 15:27:12 GMT -5
Well if I was Dana I wouldn't be too anxious to book a title fight with the guy who got injured and purposely didn't tell Zuffa about it for three weeks, which resulted in the first cancelled card in UFC history a week and a half before it was supposed to take place. Then again, he's about to give a title shot to a guy who lost his last fight and is coming off a year-long drug suspension, and also gave up a title shot because he couldn't be bothered to do his media commitments, so who knows what Dana will do. Dana will continue to do what he's always done and that's run the UFC like a business over a sporting league. That can be the only reason he's doing what he's done these past few months. He needs to create huge buyrates for PPV mains, especially those with title fights. He's spread so thin with events that he needs his PPV's to be big money events and the easy way to do that is to go with more marketable fighters even that means that fights aren't as competitive as they could be. Maybe it's because it's some of my favorite fighters who got jobbed this year for bigger names. First Hendo for Sonnen, then Hendricks for Diaz and too and extent Korean Zombie for Edgar and the rest of the guys in front of him in the rankings. If you're going to win fights and do it in exciting and dominant fashion and get passed over because you lack "marketability" on Dana's scale, that isn't your fault, that's the fault of Zuffa for being so thinly spread. Honestly, I can understand why Edgar gets to cut in front of Korean Zombie. The guy puts on excellent fights and does deserve an instant title shot. I'm totally okay with that. With Diaz jumping past Hendricks and Gustafsson/Shogun locking out Hendo....I don't get it. Dana might have a legit reason to bypass Hendo for a bit (the injury cover up that cost them a PPV) but Diaz makes no sense. Hendricks KO'd Fitch, beat Koscheck and then destroyed Kampmann. What else does the guy have to do to get a shot? |
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Post by tenshi on Dec 8, 2012 16:04:19 GMT -5
It's pretty sad to see people who earned their title shots inside the cage get overlooked by people who got their shots behind a microphone or a keyboard. In an age where the UFC has struggled to be taken seriously as an outlet of the fastest rising sports discipline in the world, the last thing they should do is rewarding trash talkers because of their entertainment value and not because of their actions inside the octagon.
If they wanted money fights, they could have booked Sonnen/Machida, Sonnen/Lil' Nog or Sonnen/Shogun based on Sonnen's heat in Brazil and Díaz/Condit 2 based on the ending of their first match. That way you get money from these fights and you can get a good contender out of them because then you see people like Chael and Nick fight for their title shot instead of getting handed it to them.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 12, 2012 3:40:29 GMT -5
Former featherweight title contender Mark Hominick has announced that he is retiring.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 13, 2012 1:07:23 GMT -5
Well it looks like Rory MacDonald will be getting his rematch against Carlos Condit at UFC 158
Also
- Cub Swanson vs. Dennis Siver has been announced as the co main event at the UFC on Fuel 7 card
- Stefan Struve vs Mark Hunt has been announced again and will be taking place at the UFC on Fuel 8 Card.
- King Mo will be making his Bellator debut at Bellator 86
- Tim Sylvia will be facing Satoshi Ishii at the Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye on new years eve.
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Post by zeez on Dec 13, 2012 11:20:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2012 17:00:08 GMT -5
So...Bellator lost two big fights two weeks in a row. I was looking forward to both. The good news is that they'll be adding them to the Spike lineups in the new year.
Last night's show could have used the Held/Jansen match, though...especially after the disappointing Hale/Volkov match.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Dec 21, 2012 17:30:16 GMT -5
- Patrick Cote will be dropping down to welterweight and will be facing
Bobby Voelker at UFC 158
- Robbie Lawler has returned to the UFC and will be facing Josh Koscheck at UFC 157
- both Chad Mendes vs Manny Gamburyan and
Lavar Johnson vs Brendan Schaub have been added to UFC 157 as well
- Karlos Vemola has pulled out of his UFC 155 bout with Chris Leben and will be replaced by Derek Brunson
Also like his older brother earlier this year Aleksander Emelianenko has announced his retirement from MMA.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2012 20:29:29 GMT -5
The hits keep coming for Bellator. Paul Daley is out of this season (or, at least, the tournament). His first opponent (War Machine) had already been taken out due to injury.
In happier news...I really enjoyed last night's Countdown to UFC's 155. I think it moved me off of the fence and onto the "ordering it" side.
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Post by mysterydriver on Jan 1, 2013 21:48:36 GMT -5
54-year old Dan "The Beast" Severn has officially announced his retirement.
He finishes his career with a record of 101-19-7.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jan 8, 2013 16:03:33 GMT -5
Hector Lombard vs Yushin Okami has been has announced for UFC on Fuel 8.
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