Lardlad
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Post by Lardlad on Sept 18, 2011 9:06:51 GMT -5
Reby Sky last night: RebySky Lots of changes coming soon. Goodnight. Reby Sky this morning: RebySky F*** up now has a whole new definition. Sadly, it would take A LOT to convince me that she's leaving Matt and that's part of her changes, regardless of how many more time's he F***s up.... Guys, watch the filters.
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 18, 2011 9:11:08 GMT -5
Beth seems to be the only one out of that group who's not afraid to just say that Matt's an idiot.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 18, 2011 9:15:53 GMT -5
Matt Hardy and Reby Sky are hilarious marks for YouTube.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Sept 18, 2011 9:42:24 GMT -5
Reby Sky last night: RebySky Lots of changes coming soon. Goodnight. Reby Sky this morning: RebySky F*** up now has a whole new definition. Sadly, it would take A LOT to convince me that she's leaving Matt and that's part of her changes, regardless of how many more time's he F***s up.... Yeah I agree. I hate to be cynical, but for the past few months she hasn't shown much more than someone who enables Matt. I honestly don't know what she gets out of the relationship. She is apparently pretty talented ( a concert pianist, dancer, etc.) but that seems to fall by the wayside as she goes along with the "kooky" Matt Hardy adventures. Maybe she is just making the best of things, but it made me kind of sick to hear her all happy and playing along again in Matt's latest video. If I was the girlfriend of anyone who had just recently been arrested multiple times and has an obvious problem with addictions, I would be playing a lot more tough love than she seems to be. Leaving cryptic twitter claims is not going to cut it, unless of course, you're Matt Hardy.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 18, 2011 9:43:28 GMT -5
Is she faking a suicide too?
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Post by CrazySting on Sept 18, 2011 9:53:29 GMT -5
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Post by woowoowoox on Sept 18, 2011 10:10:26 GMT -5
His latest series of tweets are so ridiculous. He's still as attention craving as he's always been - his "apologies" after the suicide crap meant absolutely nothing and he's already did everything he said he was going to stop doing and more.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 12:37:45 GMT -5
I don't buy a small lingering trace of Xanax leaving you unable to pass basic sobriety tests for four freaking hours.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Sept 18, 2011 12:58:50 GMT -5
I don't buy a small lingering trace of Xanax leaving you unable to pass basic sobriety tests for four freaking hours. Depends on how much he took - if taken correctly, it'll make you tired so it's not something I would take before work. What I see from Matt is some huge sanity slippage, given how easily forgiven Kurt Angle and Jeff have been for the company. Money aside, I find it almost hypocritical that TNA would drop Matt like a bad habit yet re-sign Kurt Angle given all his legal issues. The fact that Angle has had run-ins with the law (insert Russo joke here) and was permitted to keep the title is baffling. Someone mentioned that WWE was "in the clear" when it came to Jeff - so technically so was TNA. However, the Victory Road match would have told me a lot more than seeing one guy getting his first (known) DWI. Why Jeff wasn't fired on the spot I will never know. Then again, I'm also someone who believes that in professional sports (not wrestling) if you have a felony conviction for drugs or have tested postive for illegal recreationals, not getting into steroids here) you shouldn't be allowed to play in the league. Period.
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Post by Altabane on Sept 18, 2011 13:23:17 GMT -5
Whether it was drugs or alcohol, I don't care, he was impaired, one isn't better than the other. Stop making excuses or twisting stories Matt.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 19:04:21 GMT -5
I was wondering if someone could do a bullet point rundown of everything that has happened with Matt from the suspension to now.
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Post by crimsonwolf on Sept 18, 2011 19:23:47 GMT -5
Someone mentioned that WWE was "in the clear" when it came to Jeff - so technically so was TNA. However, the Victory Road match would have told me a lot more than seeing one guy getting his first (known) DWI. Why Jeff wasn't fired on the spot I will never know.Because Pro Wrestling will always be a Politics Game. Liked enough by fans and the the higher ups and you can do anything practically short of what Benoit did and still be featured prominently in the company. Fact is, despite how many people may feel online, Jeff is over. He was arguably the most over guy during his title chase in WWE, and fans even continued to cheer him after turning heel in IW. As long as Jeff maintains his popularity, no company is going to blacklist (unless he outright does something horrendous like Benoit or burn bridges like Ultimate Warrior.) It's a humongous double standard, but it is what it is. TNA feels that Jeff is a valuable enough asset. Which is presumably why they kept him off of TV long enough to clean up. Hopefully. Same can't be said for Matt, which is why they cut ties with him right away.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Sept 18, 2011 19:48:15 GMT -5
Someone mentioned that WWE was "in the clear" when it came to Jeff - so technically so was TNA. However, the Victory Road match would have told me a lot more than seeing one guy getting his first (known) DWI. Why Jeff wasn't fired on the spot I will never know.Because Pro Wrestling will always be a Politics Game. Liked enough by fans and the the higher ups and you can do anything practically short of what Benoit did and still be featured prominently in the company. Fact is, despite how many people may feel online, Jeff is over. He was arguably the most over guy during his title chase in WWE, and fans even continued to cheer him after turning heel in IW. As long as Jeff maintains his popularity, no company is going to blacklist (unless he outright does something horrendous like Benoit or burn bridges like Ultimate Warrior.) It's a humongous double standard, but it is what it is. TNA feels that Jeff is a valuable enough asset. Which is presumably why they kept him off of TV long enough to clean up. Hopefully. Same can't be said for Matt, which is why they cut ties with him right away. As much as we don't want to think it.....THIS. We all knew the score with TNA from the beginning though. They SIGNED Jeff and pushed him to the title TWICE with pending felony charges. They signed Matt for two reasons.....to appease Jeff/sell Hardyz merch. Matt was never the "Big Draw", never the reason why people bought tickets (In the eyes of those who matter) and the best he did was be the top guy on the C-Show. TNA made an executive decision, and a reletively "Good" longer term booking decision. They brought in Matt for a bad reason, he wasn't in decent shape, and cut him loose rather than keep him around after a screw-up. For all the faults that Jeff Hardy has.....he's a PROVEN draw. If they didn't WANT him there they wouldn't have re-signed him in the first place given his history of no-shows COMBINED with his then-looming criminal woes. They obviously see/saw something in Jeff and you can't argue with the marketability of his look and a good "Redemption" story.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Sept 18, 2011 20:52:31 GMT -5
Because Pro Wrestling will always be a Politics Game. Liked enough by fans and the the higher ups and you can do anything practically short of what Benoit did and still be featured prominently in the company. Fact is, despite how many people may feel online, Jeff is over. He was arguably the most over guy during his title chase in WWE, and fans even continued to cheer him after turning heel in IW. As long as Jeff maintains his popularity, no company is going to blacklist (unless he outright does something horrendous like Benoit or burn bridges like Ultimate Warrior.) It's a humongous double standard, but it is what it is. TNA feels that Jeff is a valuable enough asset. Which is presumably why they kept him off of TV long enough to clean up. Hopefully. Same can't be said for Matt, which is why they cut ties with him right away. As much as we don't want to think it.....THIS. We all knew the score with TNA from the beginning though. They SIGNED Jeff and pushed him to the title TWICE with pending felony charges. They signed Matt for two reasons.....to appease Jeff/sell Hardyz merch. Matt was never the "Big Draw", never the reason why people bought tickets (In the eyes of those who matter) and the best he did was be the top guy on the C-Show. TNA made an executive decision, and a reletively "Good" longer term booking decision. They brought in Matt for a bad reason, he wasn't in decent shape, and cut him loose rather than keep him around after a screw-up. For all the faults that Jeff Hardy has.....he's a PROVEN draw. If they didn't WANT him there they wouldn't have re-signed him in the first place given his history of no-shows COMBINED with his then-looming criminal woes. They obviously see/saw something in Jeff and you can't argue with the marketability of his look and a good "Redemption" story. No guarantees that Jeff will be a redemption story, but thanks to how TNA/IW have handled Jeff/Kurt, we could lose Matt Hardy. Look, I know TNA/IW sees bigger dollar signs with JEff and Kurt. I get that. BUT, what happened at Victory Road was inexcuseable, irresponsible on Jeff's part, and endangering another big money draw (Sting) how can they keep Jeff on their payroll?
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Post by crimsonwolf on Sept 18, 2011 21:16:39 GMT -5
As much as we don't want to think it.....THIS. We all knew the score with TNA from the beginning though. They SIGNED Jeff and pushed him to the title TWICE with pending felony charges. They signed Matt for two reasons.....to appease Jeff/sell Hardyz merch. Matt was never the "Big Draw", never the reason why people bought tickets (In the eyes of those who matter) and the best he did was be the top guy on the C-Show. TNA made an executive decision, and a reletively "Good" longer term booking decision. They brought in Matt for a bad reason, he wasn't in decent shape, and cut him loose rather than keep him around after a screw-up. For all the faults that Jeff Hardy has.....he's a PROVEN draw. If they didn't WANT him there they wouldn't have re-signed him in the first place given his history of no-shows COMBINED with his then-looming criminal woes. They obviously see/saw something in Jeff and you can't argue with the marketability of his look and a good "Redemption" story. No guarantees that Jeff will be a redemption story, but thanks to how TNA/IW have handled Jeff/Kurt, we could lose Matt Hardy. Look, I know TNA/IW sees bigger dollar signs with JEff and Kurt. I get that. BUT, what happened at Victory Road was inexcuseable, irresponsible on Jeff's part, and endangering another big money draw (Sting) how can they keep Jeff on their payroll? Because of politics. Eric Bischoff, and apparently Hogan and Dixie Carter all like Hardy. The crowds loves Hardy. That's all there is to it. It's the same way how Shawn Michaels intentionally sabotage his matched with Hogan at Summerslam 2005 and Austin walked out of the WWE twice. As long as you can continue to provide the company some money they'll continue to work with you. That's just the nature of Pro-wrestling. And again, unless hardy does something like Benoit, no company will completely cut off ties with him.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Sept 19, 2011 0:42:10 GMT -5
No guarantees that Jeff will be a redemption story, but thanks to how TNA/IW have handled Jeff/Kurt, we could lose Matt Hardy. Look, I know TNA/IW sees bigger dollar signs with JEff and Kurt. I get that. BUT, what happened at Victory Road was inexcuseable, irresponsible on Jeff's part, and endangering another big money draw (Sting) how can they keep Jeff on their payroll? Because of politics. Eric Bischoff, and apparently Hogan and Dixie Carter all like Hardy. The crowds loves Hardy. That's all there is to it. It's the same way how Shawn Michaels intentionally sabotage his matched with Hogan at Summerslam 2005 and Austin walked out of the WWE twice. As long as you can continue to provide the company some money they'll continue to work with you. That's just the nature of Pro-wrestling. And again, unless hardy does something like Benoit, no company will completely cut off ties with him. In the cases of Austin and Hogan, you weren't dealing with CRIMINAL CHARGES or DRUGS. You were dealing with EGOS. HBK "sabotaged" hogan's match because the original plan was three matches (don't remember who was to be the eventual winner) but it was cut down to one thanks to Hogan BS. So Shawn stuck it to him on camera for what was done off camera. NO LIVES WERE AT STAKE AND NO POLICE WERE INVOLVED. Austin was being a crybaby when he walked out. One case COULD be argued if he wasn't comfortable facing Lesnar, but his reasoning was more related to booking than it was to his personal safety. Again, NO LIVES WERE AT STAKE AND NO POLICE WERE INVOLVED. Kurt Angle has had 3-4 run-ins with the law since signing with TNA. They give him a contract extention and a slap on the wrist. Jeff Hardy has shown that he is otherwise unrepentant thanks to what he did at Victory road. Being that messed up made things UNSAFE (moreso than "typical" TNA) which led to the crapfest that should have had him out on his ass. I don't care how much money you make/made, he put someone's life in danger because he couldn't stay away from what was potentially sending him to jail in the first place! Matt Hardy wasn't exactly a huge pickup for TNA. I GET THAT. But there has to be some level of equality in punishment by the company. But I don't see politics here, and in no way did Matt Hardy endanger ANYONE AT TNA. He endangered people by behind the wheel of a car, hopped up on whatever, and while Kurt Angle (who has done the same more than once, himself) still has a job AND the title, Matt Hardy is given his walking papers. I'm not condoning or supporting Hardy, I'm saying that TNA is not being political, but hypocritical.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 19, 2011 3:21:26 GMT -5
HBK "sabotaged" hogan's match because the original plan was three matches (don't remember who was to be the eventual winner) but it was cut down to one thanks to Hogan BS. So Shawn stuck it to him on camera for what was done off camera. NO LIVES WERE AT STAKE AND NO POLICE WERE INVOLVED. Not to mention Shawn's overselling for Hulk actually made the match more entertaining than it would have been had Shawn sold normally.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Sept 19, 2011 7:31:16 GMT -5
Usually, somebody that suffered "severe brain and head trauma" in a crash the day before his latest arrest wouldn't be out of the hospital less than 24 hours later. Matt Hardy is full of horse manure as usual.
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Sept 19, 2011 7:47:45 GMT -5
Because of politics. Eric Bischoff, and apparently Hogan and Dixie Carter all like Hardy. The crowds loves Hardy. That's all there is to it. It's the same way how Shawn Michaels intentionally sabotage his matched with Hogan at Summerslam 2005 and Austin walked out of the WWE twice. As long as you can continue to provide the company some money they'll continue to work with you. That's just the nature of Pro-wrestling. And again, unless hardy does something like Benoit, no company will completely cut off ties with him. In the cases of Austin and Hogan, you weren't dealing with CRIMINAL CHARGES or DRUGS. You were dealing with EGOS. HBK "sabotaged" hogan's match because the original plan was three matches (don't remember who was to be the eventual winner) but it was cut down to one thanks to Hogan BS. So Shawn stuck it to him on camera for what was done off camera. NO LIVES WERE AT STAKE AND NO POLICE WERE INVOLVED. Austin was being a crybaby when he walked out. One case COULD be argued if he wasn't comfortable facing Lesnar, but his reasoning was more related to booking than it was to his personal safety. Again, NO LIVES WERE AT STAKE AND NO POLICE WERE INVOLVED. Kurt Angle has had 3-4 run-ins with the law since signing with TNA. They give him a contract extention and a slap on the wrist. Jeff Hardy has shown that he is otherwise unrepentant thanks to what he did at Victory road. Being that messed up made things UNSAFE (moreso than "typical" TNA) which led to the crapfest that should have had him out on his ass. I don't care how much money you make/made, he put someone's life in danger because he couldn't stay away from what was potentially sending him to jail in the first place! Matt Hardy wasn't exactly a huge pickup for TNA. I GET THAT. But there has to be some level of equality in punishment by the company. But I don't see politics here, and in no way did Matt Hardy endanger ANYONE AT TNA. He endangered people by behind the wheel of a car, hopped up on whatever, and while Kurt Angle (who has done the same more than once, himself) still has a job AND the title, Matt Hardy is given his walking papers. I'm not condoning or supporting Hardy, I'm saying that TNA is not being political, but hypocritical. I'm not saying TNA was right in their decision, or even excusable. All I'm saying talking purely on cost/benefit, they saw FAR more benefit in keeping/Re-signing Kurt and signing Jeff with full knowledge of thier issues then keeping Matt around. In the end they could justify keeping them and couldn't justify keeping Matt. It's not a good system, and its incredibly unfair, but its what TNA has chosen to do.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Sept 19, 2011 9:51:47 GMT -5
Usually, somebody that suffered "severe brain and head trauma" in a crash the day before his latest arrest wouldn't be out of the hospital less than 24 hours later. Matt Hardy is full of horse manure as usual. Whether it was drugs or alcohol, I don't care, he was impaired, one isn't better than the other. Stop making excuses or twisting stories Matt. +1 to both of you. Matt Hardy has become a pathetic liar.
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