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Post by angryfan on Sept 20, 2011 11:51:29 GMT -5
I haven't read this thread in a few days, I saw there was some traffic so I thought I'd check it out. Reading the praise/relief for his rehab announcement; seems like everything is taking if not a positive, at least a better turn... Then I read the next few posts And burst out laughing. I felt a lil bad for doing so, that was my reflex. I felt bad too, but, um, then I remembered I'm a cynic and started coming up with new tag team names for when they "relaunch Omega". I've gotten a few weird looks so far but at this point it's Tuesday and Matt Hardy's stepped in it again, why not laugh.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 20, 2011 11:53:13 GMT -5
Gee, why am I thinking he didn't choose rehab but is forced into it....oh yeah: MATT HARDY ARRESTED AGAIN, DRUG CHARGES FILED FOLLOWING SEARCH OF HOME by Mike Johnson @ 11:30 AM on 9/20/2011 Former WWE and TNA star Matt Hardy was arrested on 9/14 following a search warrant being executed on his home in Cameron, North Carolina, according to a statement issued by the Moore County Sheriff's office. During the search, Deputies seized 20 vials of Anabolic Steroids, 1 "dosage unit of MDMA" (aka Ecstasy), $1,961.00 (which given the amount of money Hardy has made in his career, isn't surprising) as well as unnamed drug paraphernalia. Hardy has been charged with possession with intent to sell/deliver schedule III controlled substance (the steroids), possession of schedule I controlled substance (the Ecstasy), maintaining a place to keep controlled substance, and possession of drug paraphernalia. Hardy is scheduled for a court appearance in this case on 9/29. He was released upon signing a statement that he would appear in court. Yesterday, Hardy posted a Youtube video announcing he would be undergoing a three month rehabilitation program sponsored by WWE, which provides such services to formerly contracted talent. Hardy has court dates scheduled for 9/28 in Moore County (the Driving While Impaired charge that led to his TNA dismissal), 9/29 in Moore County in regard to these new drug charges, a 10/11 court date in Wake County, NC (reckless driving charges), and 11/30 also in Wake County, NC for the Driving Under the Influence charge after being pulled over and arrested at the Raleigh airport. Not to defend him having this stuff on hand but what exactly was the reason for a search warrant being served in the first place? Sure, he is a mess but this smells like a fishing expedition that some judge decided to indulge. Then again, Jeff was not able to get his charges dismissed despite questionable circumstances, so who knows? Maybe that is the way that justice is carried out in NC (reminds self to never move to NC as I think personal rights should be respected). Edit: Wait, the police seized his cash too? In what way is cash illegal? How can they do that? Now he has more than 1 grand less with which to fund his legal defense.
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Post by angryfan on Sept 20, 2011 11:58:15 GMT -5
Gee, why am I thinking he didn't choose rehab but is forced into it....oh yeah: MATT HARDY ARRESTED AGAIN, DRUG CHARGES FILED FOLLOWING SEARCH OF HOME by Mike Johnson @ 11:30 AM on 9/20/2011 Former WWE and TNA star Matt Hardy was arrested on 9/14 following a search warrant being executed on his home in Cameron, North Carolina, according to a statement issued by the Moore County Sheriff's office. During the search, Deputies seized 20 vials of Anabolic Steroids, 1 "dosage unit of MDMA" (aka Ecstasy), $1,961.00 (which given the amount of money Hardy has made in his career, isn't surprising) as well as unnamed drug paraphernalia. Hardy has been charged with possession with intent to sell/deliver schedule III controlled substance (the steroids), possession of schedule I controlled substance (the Ecstasy), maintaining a place to keep controlled substance, and possession of drug paraphernalia. Hardy is scheduled for a court appearance in this case on 9/29. He was released upon signing a statement that he would appear in court. Yesterday, Hardy posted a Youtube video announcing he would be undergoing a three month rehabilitation program sponsored by WWE, which provides such services to formerly contracted talent. Hardy has court dates scheduled for 9/28 in Moore County (the Driving While Impaired charge that led to his TNA dismissal), 9/29 in Moore County in regard to these new drug charges, a 10/11 court date in Wake County, NC (reckless driving charges), and 11/30 also in Wake County, NC for the Driving Under the Influence charge after being pulled over and arrested at the Raleigh airport. Not to defend him having this stuff on hand but what exactly was the reason for a search warrant being served in the first place? Sure, he is a mess but this smells like a fishing expedition that some judge decided to indulge. Then again, Jeff was not able to get his charges dismissed despite questionable circumstances, so who knows? Maybe that is the way that justice is carried out in NC (reminds self to never move to NC as I think personal rights should be respected). Edit: Wait, the police seized his cash too? In what way is cash illegal? How can they do that? Now he has more than 1 grand less with which to fund his legal defense. Probable cause would be a cakewalk in this case. His brother was jsut convicted of posession, he was just arrested for another driving incident in which he showed obvious signs of being impaired but tested negative for alcohol. Law enforcement has been called to his property in recent weeks, thanks to his self-produced hoax, and so on. The argument is simple, hsi brother was in posesion, he has shown increasingly irratic behavior in public and had multiple run-ins with local law enforcement, thus it stands to reason that illegal narcotics are not only involved, but on his property.
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Post by woowoowoox on Sept 20, 2011 11:59:34 GMT -5
I am sick to my stomach. I really hope this rehab thing pulls through.
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Post by jadison on Sept 20, 2011 12:13:09 GMT -5
I think Matt's a pathological liar. He's gong to rehab, yet he can't stop lying about being f***ed up. You'd think that he could be honest with everyone if he's already admitting he has a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2011 12:14:45 GMT -5
I figure the rehab thing is really only a, "See, I've changed! Take me back, Vince!" thing.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 20, 2011 12:15:27 GMT -5
Not to defend him having this stuff on hand but what exactly was the reason for a search warrant being served in the first place? Sure, he is a mess but this smells like a fishing expedition that some judge decided to indulge. Then again, Jeff was not able to get his charges dismissed despite questionable circumstances, so who knows? Maybe that is the way that justice is carried out in NC (reminds self to never move to NC as I think personal rights should be respected). Edit: Wait, the police seized his cash too? In what way is cash illegal? How can they do that? Now he has more than 1 grand less with which to fund his legal defense. Probable cause would be a cakewalk in this case. His brother was jsut convicted of posession, he was just arrested for another driving incident in which he showed obvious signs of being impaired but tested negative for alcohol. Law enforcement has been called to his property in recent weeks, thanks to his self-produced hoax, and so on. The argument is simple, hsi brother was in posesion, he has shown increasingly irratic behavior in public and had multiple run-ins with local law enforcement, thus it stands to reason that illegal narcotics are not only involved, but on his property. The fact that his brother was just convicted of a crime should have no bearing on his potential criminal activity, especially since it was just a possession charge. As for the driving while impaired charges that merely means that he took something (which did not have to be something illegal, I might add) and drove (which is utterly moronic and undefensible in its own right). He was not charged with possession either time and you know that he was searched at those times. Therefore, probable cause is a little sketchy. As far as the cops knew was it possible that he had something at his home? Sure, but nothing in all that suggests intent to distribute, which is the only charge that would have been a viable reason for a judge to sign off on a search warrant in the first place. No judge should ever sign off on a search warrant to bust someone for possession, especially when they were arrested a few times recently and were found to not be in possession of anything illegal then. Look, I am not defending Hardy for having the steroids or the one hit of ecstasy that he was found to have. That would be ridiculous. What I am defending is that we live in a country where we as citizens have rights that prevent such violations of privacy. Sure, there are legal loopholes around some of those rights, but Matt Hardy is an idiot, not a terrorist. To be honest, I was more than a little pissed that Jeff wound up being convicted of anything stemming from the highly questionable search of his property as well. I did not at all like that he had the things to get busted with but the whole thing stunk of set-up. I felt any of the findings of the search holding up in court was a complete violation of his personal rights. Why should I care about the personal rights of Matt and Jeff Hardy? Any rights that can be legally stripped from them can be stripped from anyone. I cannot abide that and you should not either.
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Post by angryfan on Sept 20, 2011 12:25:23 GMT -5
Probable cause would be a cakewalk in this case. His brother was jsut convicted of posession, he was just arrested for another driving incident in which he showed obvious signs of being impaired but tested negative for alcohol. Law enforcement has been called to his property in recent weeks, thanks to his self-produced hoax, and so on. The argument is simple, hsi brother was in posesion, he has shown increasingly irratic behavior in public and had multiple run-ins with local law enforcement, thus it stands to reason that illegal narcotics are not only involved, but on his property. The fact that his brother was just convicted of a crime should have no bearing on his potential criminal activity, especially since it was just a possession charge. As for the driving while impaired charges that merely means that he took something (which did not have to be something illegal, I might add) and drove (which is utterly moronic and undefensible in its own right). He was not charged with possession either time and you know that he was searched at those times. Therefore, probable cause is a little sketchy. As far as the cops knew was it possible that he had something at his home? Sure, but nothing in all that suggests intent to distribute, which is the only charge that would have been a viable reason for a judge to sign off on a search warrant in the first place. No judge should ever sign off on a search warrant to bust someone for possession, especially when they were arrested a few times recently and were found to not be in possession of anything illegal then. Look, I am not defending Hardy for having the steroids or the one hit of ecstasy that he was found to have. That would be ridiculous. What I am defending is that we live in a country where we as citizens have rights that prevent such violations of privacy. Sure, there are legal loopholes around some of those rights, but Matt Hardy is an idiot, not a terrorist. To be honest, I was more than a little pissed that Jeff wound up being convicted of anything stemming from the highly questionable search of his property as well. I did not at all like that he had the things to get busted with but the whole thing stunk of set-up. I felt any of the findings of the search holding up in court was a complete violation of his personal rights. Why should I care about the personal rights of Matt and Jeff Hardy? Any rights that can be legally stripped from them can be stripped from anyone. I cannot abide that and you should not either. Well, I'm not saying probable cause is guaranteed, but it's a county that is more likely to charge for minor drug offenses, as has been proven, so getting a judge, with supposition and circumstance, to sign off on a plain sight warrant is not a mind-bender. Anything more thorough would require something more concrete. One thing, though. Reby noted taht she tried to give Matt's license to the cops, and she is a resident. If they knock and she says "come on in", then no warrant needed for a plain sight search.
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Post by Ace Baretta on Sept 20, 2011 12:30:07 GMT -5
Jeff wasn't "set-up."
He had some deal with some drug dealer in Florida (who is now also under arrest). When the package came through the mail, the postal workers thought something suspicious was up, so they alerted the police. Police went through the box, found the articles in question, and allowed it to be shipped, planning the bust as soon as it was picked up.
No set up there.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 20, 2011 12:35:28 GMT -5
The fact that his brother was just convicted of a crime should have no bearing on his potential criminal activity, especially since it was just a possession charge. As for the driving while impaired charges that merely means that he took something (which did not have to be something illegal, I might add) and drove (which is utterly moronic and undefensible in its own right). He was not charged with possession either time and you know that he was searched at those times. Therefore, probable cause is a little sketchy. As far as the cops knew was it possible that he had something at his home? Sure, but nothing in all that suggests intent to distribute, which is the only charge that would have been a viable reason for a judge to sign off on a search warrant in the first place. No judge should ever sign off on a search warrant to bust someone for possession, especially when they were arrested a few times recently and were found to not be in possession of anything illegal then. Look, I am not defending Hardy for having the steroids or the one hit of ecstasy that he was found to have. That would be ridiculous. What I am defending is that we live in a country where we as citizens have rights that prevent such violations of privacy. Sure, there are legal loopholes around some of those rights, but Matt Hardy is an idiot, not a terrorist. To be honest, I was more than a little pissed that Jeff wound up being convicted of anything stemming from the highly questionable search of his property as well. I did not at all like that he had the things to get busted with but the whole thing stunk of set-up. I felt any of the findings of the search holding up in court was a complete violation of his personal rights. Why should I care about the personal rights of Matt and Jeff Hardy? Any rights that can be legally stripped from them can be stripped from anyone. I cannot abide that and you should not either. Well, I'm not saying probable cause is guaranteed, but it's a county that is more likely to charge for minor drug offenses, as has been proven, so getting a judge, with supposition and circumstance, to sign off on a plain sight warrant is not a mind-bender. Anything more thorough would require something more concrete. One thing, though. Reby noted taht she tried to give Matt's license to the cops, and she is a resident. If they knock and she says "come on in", then no warrant needed for a plain sight search. What kind of idiot leaves this kind of stuff out in plain sight, though? I doubt even Matt is dumb enough to leave that stuff out on the counter. More to the point, I believe that if it were left out the steroids would go bad, so they couldn't have been out in plain sight. I won't pretend to know anything about ecstasy, though. It just smacks of violation of privacy just because the cops don't like him.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 20, 2011 12:42:55 GMT -5
Jeff wasn't "set-up." He had some deal with some drug dealer in Florida (who is now also under arrest). When the package came through the mail, the postal workers thought something suspicious was up, so they alerted the police. Police went through the box, found the articles in question, and allowed it to be shipped, planning the bust as soon as it was picked up. No set up there. Wait, what could possibly make postal workers suspicious of a package enough to call the cops? All manners of parcels get delivered every day and many of those might seem odd under a cursory examination while not being illegal at all. Also, you are saying that the cops searched the package first and then let it get delivered? Only the FBI, ATF, and the Secret Service have the jurisdiction required to search a package prior to delivery. Anyone else opening the package is committing a federal felony. As his arrest was not at the hands of any of those groups I still fail to see how it could have held up in court. Did he receive something he should not have? Sure, but not following proper procedure in the procurement of a warrant is supposed to invalidate any evidence found by serving that warrant. Edit: If the FBI or ATF were involved in his arrest in any way, then I redact my statement here. Those agencies have the jurisdiction required to search a package in transit and therefore any evidence gathered would have been legitimate and gets no protest from me. Again, to me this is about rights being violated, not wrestlers that I used to like getting in trouble.
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Post by angryfan on Sept 20, 2011 12:57:02 GMT -5
Well, I'm not saying probable cause is guaranteed, but it's a county that is more likely to charge for minor drug offenses, as has been proven, so getting a judge, with supposition and circumstance, to sign off on a plain sight warrant is not a mind-bender. Anything more thorough would require something more concrete. One thing, though. Reby noted taht she tried to give Matt's license to the cops, and she is a resident. If they knock and she says "come on in", then no warrant needed for a plain sight search. What kind of idiot leaves this kind of stuff out in plain sight, though? I doubt even Matt is dumb enough to leave that stuff out on the counter. More to the point, I believe that if it were left out the steroids would go bad, so they couldn't have been out in plain sight. I won't pretend to know anything about ecstasy, though. It just smacks of violation of privacy just because the cops don't like him. When I was in law enforcement, I had friends on the narco squad. You'd be surprised at how much just got left out in the open, especially by individuals who were, um, perpetually under the influence and forgot. Not to mention, no search is necessary if someone offered it up. Again, I point in Reby's direction. If she's as fed up as she seems to indicate, and the cops show up based on yet another DWI issue and wish to ask questions (perfectly legal) and she invites them in, then they're not breaking any procedural rules. If she then continues on the path that she stated, about trying to give them Matt's license, and just goes all in and shows them his stash, then they did not search illegally. She, as a resident of the home, can state "it's here, but it's not mine" as long as it was kept in what could be considered a communal area. Speculation on my part, but if they sleep in the same bed, then there really aren't any areas that it wouldn't be reasonable to assume she'd have access to. Medicine cabinet in the bathroom? Fair game. Closet that has her belongings in it? Fair game. The cops can't search it, but she can say "I found this". Hell, if she just tells them "he's got drugs, and here's where they are" they can get a search warrant based on her statements, and spousal priviledge deosn't apply because they're not married.
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Post by angryfan on Sept 20, 2011 12:59:43 GMT -5
Jeff wasn't "set-up." He had some deal with some drug dealer in Florida (who is now also under arrest). When the package came through the mail, the postal workers thought something suspicious was up, so they alerted the police. Police went through the box, found the articles in question, and allowed it to be shipped, planning the bust as soon as it was picked up. No set up there. Wait, what could possibly make postal workers suspicious of a package enough to call the cops? All manners of parcels get delivered every day and many of those might seem odd under a cursory examination while not being illegal at all. Also, you are saying that the cops searched the package first and then let it get delivered? Only the FBI, ATF, and the Secret Service have the jurisdiction required to search a package prior to delivery. Anyone else opening the package is committing a federal felony. As his arrest was not at the hands of any of those groups I still fail to see how it could have held up in court. Did he receive something he should not have? Sure, but not following proper procedure in the procurement of a warrant is supposed to invalidate any evidence found by serving that warrant. Edit: If the FBI or ATF were involved in his arrest in any way, then I redact my statement here. Those agencies have the jurisdiction required to search a package in transit and therefore any evidence gathered would have been legitimate and gets no protest from me. Again, to me this is about rights being violated, not wrestlers that I used to like getting in trouble. Packages are routinely scanned for dangerous substances, such as anthrax, and have been for close to a decade now. Now, if the scan turns up drugs, law enforcement can, and must, be notified. Your'e right, the FBI would have primary jurisdiction on the mailing of the substances (and would go after the sender bigger than hell) but the recipient, in this case Hardy, would be under the jurisdiction of local law enforcement.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Sept 20, 2011 13:07:18 GMT -5
Gee, why am I thinking he didn't choose rehab but is forced into it....oh yeah: MATT HARDY ARRESTED AGAIN, DRUG CHARGES FILED FOLLOWING SEARCH OF HOME by Mike Johnson @ 11:30 AM on 9/20/2011 Former WWE and TNA star Matt Hardy was arrested on 9/14 following a search warrant being executed on his home in Cameron, North Carolina, according to a statement issued by the Moore County Sheriff's office. During the search, Deputies seized 20 vials of Anabolic Steroids, 1 "dosage unit of MDMA" (aka Ecstasy), $1,961.00 (which given the amount of money Hardy has made in his career, isn't surprising) as well as unnamed drug paraphernalia. Hardy has been charged with possession with intent to sell/deliver schedule III controlled substance (the steroids), possession of schedule I controlled substance (the Ecstasy), maintaining a place to keep controlled substance, and possession of drug paraphernalia. Hardy is scheduled for a court appearance in this case on 9/29. He was released upon signing a statement that he would appear in court. Yesterday, Hardy posted a Youtube video announcing he would be undergoing a three month rehabilitation program sponsored by WWE, which provides such services to formerly contracted talent. Hardy has court dates scheduled for 9/28 in Moore County (the Driving While Impaired charge that led to his TNA dismissal), 9/29 in Moore County in regard to these new drug charges, a 10/11 court date in Wake County, NC (reckless driving charges), and 11/30 also in Wake County, NC for the Driving Under the Influence charge after being pulled over and arrested at the Raleigh airport. Not to defend him having this stuff on hand but what exactly was the reason for a search warrant being served in the first place? Sure, he is a mess but this smells like a fishing expedition that some judge decided to indulge. Then again, Jeff was not able to get his charges dismissed despite questionable circumstances, so who knows? Maybe that is the way that justice is carried out in NC (reminds self to never move to NC as I think personal rights should be respected). Edit: Wait, the police seized his cash too? In what way is cash illegal? How can they do that? Now he has more than 1 grand less with which to fund his legal defense. When the police arrest you for distribution of drugs, it's not uncommon for them to seize your cash as well. I mean, they're not going to take $30 from your wallet or something, but if you have over $1000 cash they're going to take it. The logic is that it's drug money, so it gets seized. Anyway, Matt f***s up again and I can't believe that I'm actually surprised. 3 arrests in one month. *sighs* I really hope he's serious about going to rehab. Also I should add that I am very surprised at the stuff they found in Matt's house. Steroids and ecstasy? Why would he have steroids? He's not even wrestling these days. And while I'm not surprised that Matt would be doing ecstasy, it is the last thing I expected for him to get in trouble with. I thought his problem was with barbiturates, not something like ecstasy which is a stimulant. EDIT: As far as the police searching his home, there's no telling what made them do that. They couldn't just search his home based on his charges. He hasn't been convicted of anything yet, thus he's not on probation/parole, thus the police would need a warrant or probable cause to enter his house. They could have been tipped off by somebody though. They could have been called to his house for some reason and he let them in. Or it could be like the Jeff Hardy case where he received a package containing the drugs. I seriously doubt it's the latter though because if his brother got busted that way, I would imagine that he would know that is NOT the way that you get drugs delivered to your home. Still, we'll hear more details soon I'm sure. I hope for Matt's sake that the cops just illegally entered into his home because the case would have to be dropped, but I just think there's no way in hell that happened.
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Post by Self High Five on Sept 20, 2011 13:10:43 GMT -5
third mug shot's a charm...
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Post by rapidfire187 on Sept 20, 2011 13:12:29 GMT -5
third mug shot's a charm... Matt: FML
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Sept 20, 2011 13:20:13 GMT -5
......wow,he is not having a good month.
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Post by deliridream on Sept 20, 2011 13:30:21 GMT -5
Maybe Beth turned him in.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Sept 20, 2011 13:40:01 GMT -5
Maybe Beth turned him in. DAMN YOU BETH PHOENIX!!!!!
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Post by Lardlad on Sept 20, 2011 13:42:44 GMT -5
Hardy has court dates scheduled for 9/28 in Moore County (the Driving While Impaired charge that led to his TNA dismissal), 9/29 in Moore County in regard to these new drug charges, a 10/11 court date in Wake County, NC (reckless driving charges), and 11/30 also in Wake County, NC for the Driving Under the Influence charge after being pulled over and arrested at the Raleigh airport. So if he has court dates, but is in rehab, does that mean he gets out of having to appear in court?
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