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Post by Burst on Jun 26, 2012 10:11:18 GMT -5
Well, compared to his twin sister.
Leia gets to be raised as a bona fide princess and versed in all sorts of diplomatic skills as well as presumably living a pretty well-off lifestyle prior to the rebellion really taking off, with her adoptive father being one of the most prominent political figures in the galaxy, while living on one of the most well-regarded, beautiful core worlds.
Luke gets... left on a backwater desert planet, effectively destitute with no future prospects outside of moisture farming, with semi-abusive adoptive parents and a seemingly crazy old hermit as his protector role.
Okay, I get that of the core group that knew that Padme had twins, Bail Organa was really the only one in a good position to shelter them. I get that he didn't take both because that would have put all their eggs in one basket. Surely there must have been other people they could have trusted, though, rather than letting Luke have a crappy childhood because his protector figure had to hide himself in the boondocks. I guess that's better than sticking him with Yoda in terms of social development, but still.
And you can't really argue that putting Luke in an equally prominent position would have made him more visible either, since Vader didn't even know about Luke until ESB and about Leia until well into ROTJ anyway.
I dunno, if I were Luke, I'd have a few moments of resentment when I was in a bad mood.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 10:14:14 GMT -5
It's all perspective:
Luke- biggest responsibility is running errands and maintaining the moisture farm
Leia- biggest responsibility is representing an entire planet which gets destroyed in order to try out a weapon
Even before that, it seems like Leia's life was filled with stress.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 26, 2012 10:37:16 GMT -5
I don't think that Owen and Beru were abusive at all. stern, yes, but they clearly loved the boy and they knew what an asshole his father was and were just very concerned about protecting him. you'll note that Owen's always giving Luke lame excuses for why he can't go to that pilot academy. he's worried that that'll make it easier for Vader to find him. also, yeah, growing up on Tatooine would suck, but it's not like Luke is a slave, and he does have a lot of friends (this would've been more clear if they'd left in the scene with him talking to Biggs). so yeah, Leia may have had more perks, but Luke had a lot more freedom. plus, while his adoptive parents were killed horribly, he never had to watch his planet get blown up by a vindictive asshole.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 26, 2012 10:41:23 GMT -5
Luke would feel the same way, no matter where he was, because he was a teenager.
Leia just couldn't actively bitch about it because of her political role - she had to grow up a bit faster.
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Post by darthalexander on Jun 26, 2012 10:58:55 GMT -5
I always got a laugh out of the scene in Revenge Of The Sith where they're deciding what to do with the kids and Yoda just shrugs when it comes to Luke and suggests just bringing him back to Tatooine. "Yeah whatever, to Dagobah I must go".
I suppose it could be ret-conned to mean: Female children have major midi-chlorian counts and males don't, so Yoda didn't sense the Force in Luke and he felt Leia would be better protected with the Organas..blah blah blah...
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jun 26, 2012 17:34:16 GMT -5
you take with ONE HAND ..... oh wait TOO SOON LUKE???  |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 26, 2012 18:18:57 GMT -5
I always got a laugh out of the scene in Revenge Of The Sith where they're deciding what to do with the kids and Yoda just shrugs when it comes to Luke and suggests just bringing him back to Tatooine. "Yeah whatever, to Dagobah I must go". I suppose it could be ret-conned to mean: Female children have major midi-chlorian counts and males don't, so Yoda didn't sense the Force in Luke and he felt Leia would be better protected with the Organas..blah blah blah... I would think just the opposite. If Leia had more midichlorians she could be in great danger with the Organas. They were powerful people in the Republic, and in the later early Empire. Leia had met Tarkin before Star Wars, and being a Senator potentially had met Vader and even the Emperor. If she had great force potential she could have been found out. Luke on other hand was on a planet the Empire never seemed to go to unless they had to, with people that Vader would never want to see again (a reminder of a painful part of his previous life). Plus he had a Jedi Master guarding him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 18:45:56 GMT -5
I always got a laugh out of the scene in Revenge Of The Sith where they're deciding what to do with the kids and Yoda just shrugs when it comes to Luke and suggests just bringing him back to Tatooine. "Yeah whatever, to Dagobah I must go". I suppose it could be ret-conned to mean: Female children have major midi-chlorian counts and males don't, so Yoda didn't sense the Force in Luke and he felt Leia would be better protected with the Organas..blah blah blah... Heh, imagine if he took him to Dagobah. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2012 18:50:57 GMT -5
Look at the relationship (if you can call it that) between Own and Anakin/Vader:
- Anakin arrives after 10 years unknown, meeting Owen for the first time.
- Anakin leaves to find his mother after finding out about the Tusken Raiders
- Anakin slaughters the Tusken Raiders (OK, Owen doesn't see it, but its easily deduced from...)
- Anakin returns with his mother's corpse.
It's pretty clear why Owen wanted Luke in his sight at all times.
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Post by darthalexander on Jun 26, 2012 23:09:31 GMT -5
Heh, imagine if he took him to Dagobah. He probably would never get a moment's peace and he'd be stuck eating all the slop Yoda made. Still - you wonder if Luke and Leia didn't have a conversation about this. "Oh weren't you lucky? When I was 12 I was stuck outdoors in 120 degree heat changing power converters!" |
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Post by Burst on Jun 26, 2012 23:19:05 GMT -5
Heh, imagine if he took him to Dagobah. He probably would never get a moment's peace and he'd be stuck eating all the slop Yoda made. Still - you wonder if Luke and Leia didn't have a conversation about this. "Oh weren't you lucky? When I was 12 I was stuck outdoors in 120 degree heat changing power converters!" Though you could make a counter-argument about what if Yoda had been able to train him since Day 1. The Mind Boggles... |
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Post by darthalexander on Jun 26, 2012 23:31:37 GMT -5
I don't know if Yoda is that great of a teacher. He trained Dooku who turned to the Dark Side. Dooku trained Qui-Gon, who was always at odds with the Jedi Council (I don't blame him). Then Qui-Gon trained Obi-Wan who then trained Anakin who then became Vader...so maybe his teaching methods and words of advice (Pass on what you have learned) shouldn't really be taken to heart.  Seriously though, I've felt that Luke being raised with a family around him is what really kept him grounded enough to succeed. Maybe Yoda had a moment of clarity and realised that he and his sister were better suited in an environment like that. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jun 27, 2012 3:26:32 GMT -5
None of it would have been an issue had Padme simply decided to live.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 27, 2012 4:50:18 GMT -5
Yeah, they should have never picked Andy to win Tough Enough.
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