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Post by Sektor on Dec 6, 2012 19:01:57 GMT -5
I think Brady will have it by the end of the year. The Broncos get to play six games against terrible defenses, and I don't think the Broncos will make it far in the playoffs.
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Post by Toxik916 on Dec 6, 2012 19:12:35 GMT -5
In my opinion, the MVP award is down to a two-horse race between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, so whoever has a bad game in the final four weeks is going to lose it to the other. So, as is usually the case when Manning and Brady face off... {Spoiler}Brady wins I can't believe Aldon Smith isn't even in the race for MVP this year. He's the most dominant pass rusher I've seen since Reggie White and has the numbers to back it up.
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Post by thetower52 on Dec 6, 2012 19:36:46 GMT -5
time to watch my raiders get touched by the broncos
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 6, 2012 19:43:25 GMT -5
Aldon Smith isn't in the MVP talks because he's a defensive player. Specifically, he's not a quarterback or a running back. Last time someone that wasn't a QB or RB won the MVP was Lawrence Taylor in 1986.
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Post by Sektor on Dec 6, 2012 19:56:06 GMT -5
In my opinion, the MVP award is down to a two-horse race between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, so whoever has a bad game in the final four weeks is going to lose it to the other. So, as is usually the case when Manning and Brady face off... {Spoiler}Brady wins I can't believe Aldon Smith isn't even in the race for MVP this year. He's the most dominant pass rusher I've seen since Reggie White and has the numbers to back it up. Have you watched J.J. Watt? The amount of sacks Smith gets is very impressive, but so far that's the only thing he's excelled at. Reggie White was a pressure lineman that affected an offenses entire game plan. Smith's just a pass rusher. A damn good one, but a pass rusher none the less.
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Post by Toxik916 on Dec 6, 2012 20:33:23 GMT -5
I haven't had a chance to see the Texans play this year so I'm looking forward to Monday night.
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Post by Citizen Grimm on Dec 6, 2012 21:09:44 GMT -5
In my opinion, the MVP award is down to a two-horse race between Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, so whoever has a bad game in the final four weeks is going to lose it to the other. So, as is usually the case when Manning and Brady face off... {Spoiler}Brady wins I can't believe Aldon Smith isn't even in the race for MVP this year. He's the most dominant pass rusher I've seen since Reggie White and has the numbers to back it up. Honestly, I'm a little surprised that Adrian Peterson isn't in the running either. The guy essentially destroyed his knee to the point where most people thought he'd never be back to form and would miss at least a month at the beginning of the season. Instead, he's started every game and is playing better than he ever has before. Should be interesting to see who wins Comeback Player of the Year between Peterson and Manning.
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Post by domrep on Dec 6, 2012 21:20:12 GMT -5
Manning will win comeback player of the year. You say that people thought AP would never go back to his old form....people thought Manning wouldn't come back, PERIOD.
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 6, 2012 21:57:59 GMT -5
I'd say what hurts AP is his team is only .500 right now and they're likely not going to do better than that. He's having a terrific season, but the MVP almost always comes from a playoff team unless the player in question is having such an amazing year that it overshadows everything else. And at the very least, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are having great enough seasons where that isn't going to happen.
He should be right there with Peyton in the Comeback Player of the Year voting though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 22:07:54 GMT -5
I just hope the Raiders keep it close.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 6, 2012 22:11:02 GMT -5
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 6, 2012 22:36:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 22:40:15 GMT -5
There goes my hopes.
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Post by Toxik916 on Dec 6, 2012 22:49:08 GMT -5
The Palmer trade might be the worst in the history of the NFL. The Raiders were looking like they just needed one or two good draft picks to get them in the playoffs with Campbell as qb then they sell the farm for Carson and they're right back in the toilet.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Dec 6, 2012 22:51:53 GMT -5
The Palmer trade might be the worst in the history of the NFL. The Raiders were looking like they just needed one or two good draft picks to get them in the playoffs with Campbell as qb then they sell the farm for Carson and they're right back in the toilet. Uh, Herschel Walker trade in '89 says hi.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 6, 2012 22:52:33 GMT -5
Ok, I don't ever come into the NFL thread because .I love college ball and don't watch the NFL really. I read the same article about the kickoffs but from ESPN. I could not understand the conveluted explaination about the replacment scenario. The one above is better and I guess I understand now. That said, things like this are huge reasons I don't watch the no fun league. I understand the concern for player safety but seriously this is too much. That 4th and fifteen situation replacement will be an edge to the defense and i believe the % of successful conversion will be less than 20%. That is not good for competition. How bout we just have the players use a balloon, wear tin foil hats and bras over their jerseys? That'll cut dwn on injuries
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Post by Sektor on Dec 6, 2012 22:57:38 GMT -5
The Palmer trade might be the worst in the history of the NFL. The Raiders were looking like they just needed one or two good draft picks to get them in the playoffs with Campbell as qb then they sell the farm for Carson and they're right back in the toilet. Uh, Herschel Walker trade in '89 says hi. It might not even break the top five. Palmer's past his prime, but he's still a better QB than a lot of other guys who's job is completely secure (looking at you Flacco). The only reason this was a bad trade is because it was a win right now move for a team that, even with Palmer, isn't ready to win right now. If they had a defense, Palmer might be the new Kurt Warner.
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Post by Mac on Dec 6, 2012 22:59:44 GMT -5
If it needs to be between Brady and Manning I guess I'd give it to Brady
The yards are pretty comparable, Manning has more turnovers and more TDs. Something nobody is really mentioning is the Patriots are 4 points away from being undefeated right now, and have yet again one of the top ten offenses in NFL history. They have 430 PTS right now if they manage to score only 20 points a game the rest of the season they still have the #6 most points scored in a season
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Post by Error on Dec 6, 2012 23:34:24 GMT -5
I'd give it to Peyton because when they are as close as they are, I go with the title of the award, who was more valuable to their team. If you take Peyton away from Denver, you're talking a team with 8 to 6 wins and probably doesn't make the playoffs. If you take Brady from the Pats, they are an 10 to 8 win team that should make the playoffs.
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Post by darbus alan on Dec 6, 2012 23:37:37 GMT -5
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