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Post by kieran on Dec 26, 2012 19:36:24 GMT -5
My first thoughts were Heyman and Ian Rotten.
I lost a lot of respect for Paul when, at the end of ECW's run, he was in L.A I think, telling the boys he was working on a new TV deal, that ECW was gonna survive and thrive, when in reality, he was shooting scenes for that Rollerball or whatever it was called.
And everyone knows about Ian Rotten.
But back to Paul Heyman, the more I think about the ECW situation the more I think he has no love for the wrestling business and especially the wrestlers, no doubt he has a very creative mind definatly knows how to pen a compelling story, but at the end of the day he's doing it purely for the money, if he was'nt in wrestling he'd be writing TV pilots, I think he would've been great writing for Lost.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Dec 26, 2012 19:41:34 GMT -5
Honky Tonk Man isn't a liar, he's just a dick.
Liar is someone like Eric Bischoff. His whole book was full of it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2012 20:58:38 GMT -5
But back to Paul Heyman, the more I think about the ECW situation the more I think he has no love for the wrestling business and especially the wrestlers, no doubt he has a very creative mind definatly knows how to pen a compelling story, but at the end of the day he's doing it purely for the money, if he was'nt in wrestling he'd be writing TV pilots, I think he would've been great writing for Lost. If he was only in wrestling for the money and not because he loves the business, he wouldn't have put roughly $4 million of his own family's money into ECW. If you look at the bankruptcy filing, a lot of what was lost providing the wrestling fans with ECW came out of Heyman family accounts.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 27, 2012 11:52:25 GMT -5
Heyman's issue wasn't that he didn't love the business, he just wanted to do what he wanted to do and damn anybody who didn't agree.
A lot of things that got him in trouble were things that could easily be avoided. He had agreed to do favors for wrestlers and other promoters in return for them doing something for ECW. They would do things for ECW but he would not return the favor.
like take Shane Douglas throwing down the NWA title. As iconic of a moment as that was, he and Douglas had signed contracts to make ECW the main home for the NWA, and after he threw the title down they made NWA officials think it was an angle and had them go along with it.
he also screwed over a lot of his guys from going to WCW
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Post by dlg3000 on Dec 27, 2012 12:51:50 GMT -5
Honky Tonk Man isn't a liar, he's just a dick. Liar is someone like Eric Bischoff. His whole book was full of it. Ditto on the HTM. His making fun of Bret's stroke was pretty low if you ask me.
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Post by heisenberg on Dec 29, 2012 7:05:56 GMT -5
Jake the Snake for me. I've been around a few addicts in my life and he is a typical case of a bser. Still love him tho and could hear his stories for days but I know you have to be skeptical of anything he says.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Dec 29, 2012 14:17:42 GMT -5
Ask Bubba and D-Von who the biggest liar in the business is.
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Post by YiHammer on Dec 29, 2012 20:35:42 GMT -5
Was Ian Rotten really a liar? He seems like just a piece of crap scumbag
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 29, 2012 21:57:59 GMT -5
Was Ian Rotten really a liar? He seems like just a piece of crap scumbag well... what he did to Mickie Knuckles was kind of lying. And he constantly tried to use the "IWA is going out of business, this is our last show" card to get a good gate, but otherwise (as I said earlier) he's just scum
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 29, 2012 22:01:46 GMT -5
Bischoff up there
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Post by mysterious on Dec 30, 2012 20:35:29 GMT -5
Has to be Tammy Sunny Sytch. She lies a whole lot for someone with a very short career who's peak only lasted a year and a half. Unfortunately Chris Candido had to live with most of her lies. Unless you just mean her WWF career, you're wrong about her having a "very short career". Tammy Sytch was still working indy shows until just before her current stint in rehab. So all together, she's been in the business for about 20 years or so. Her career in the big time was very short if you include ECW and WCW as well. She still lies a lot about her career and why she was let go from major promotions. She also lies about her drug problems even though it's the reason why her career fizzled.
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Post by Glitch on Dec 31, 2012 1:05:02 GMT -5
Unless you just mean her WWF career, you're wrong about her having a "very short career". Tammy Sytch was still working indy shows until just before her current stint in rehab. So all together, she's been in the business for about 20 years or so. Her career in the big time was very short if you include ECW and WCW as well. She still lies a lot about her career and why she was let go from major promotions. She also lies about her drug problems even though it's the reason why her career fizzled. She also didn't show respect to Low Ki. I'm sure that's a form of lying or something.
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Post by paulbearer on Jan 11, 2013 19:29:23 GMT -5
I lied to the UnderTaker once and as you might imagine I've regretted it since , oh yes
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Post by paulbearer on Jan 11, 2013 19:34:59 GMT -5
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Post by The Gambler Fan on Jan 11, 2013 23:00:26 GMT -5
Vince McMahon has to be the biggest liar in wrestling history. There is no way he could have made it as far as he did without lying.
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Post by Mac on Jan 11, 2013 23:36:00 GMT -5
I still am baffled by Mike Grahams claims that would basically make him responsible for everything WCW did well EVER.
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Post by Danimal on Jan 12, 2013 0:46:43 GMT -5
Heyman is up there. Brilliant mind for the business, but there is a reason why the saying with Heyman is he'd rather sit in a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth Is that really a saying?
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Post by Jeremy on Jan 12, 2013 1:27:05 GMT -5
Heyman is up there. Brilliant mind for the business, but there is a reason why the saying with Heyman is he'd rather sit in a tree and tell a lie than stand on the ground and tell the truth Is that really a saying? Its climb a tree and tell a lie (sitting is no trouble, climbing it is the work) but yes.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 12, 2013 8:30:22 GMT -5
Vince McMahon has to be the biggest liar in wrestling history. There is no way he could have made it as far as he did without lying. He's just the most successful liar not the biggest.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2013 11:20:16 GMT -5
I still am baffled by Mike Grahams claims that would basically make him responsible for everything WCW did well EVER. None of us were in the board room when any of them threw ideas out to see what stuck, to really know whose idea originally were each of those things, but it's true that Mike Graham was one of four or five people at the helm of WCW in terms of the office at the time, and was an idea guy, whose contributions they often ran with.
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