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Post by notasmark on Jan 10, 2013 22:16:58 GMT -5
Why has wrestling pretty much always stayed away from them?
only incidents I remember are the Pillman one, The Austin one (Which turned out to be fake) and one in WCW with Hulk Hogan.
You'd think they'd of used them more.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 10, 2013 22:21:37 GMT -5
No one buys that you will fire the gun, for starters.
Also, Austin had yet another gun bit, where he had a net gun he shot Nash with, after Nash yelled out "He's got a gun!".
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jan 10, 2013 22:23:06 GMT -5
It strains believability. I think there's a limit to how far one can believe 2 people will be willing to injure each other. If I see a gun on screen, I know the trigger won't be pulled.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 10, 2013 22:36:16 GMT -5
I guess I was a pre teen at the time, but I believed that crazy ass Brian Pillman would fire a gun at someone, and that a psychotic Steve Austin would break into someone's house.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 10, 2013 22:56:18 GMT -5
No one buys that you will fire the gun, for starters. Also, Austin had yet another gun bit, where he had a net gun he shot Nash with, after Nash yelled out "He's got a gun!". Which was awesome
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 10, 2013 23:03:33 GMT -5
No one buys that you will fire the gun, for starters. Also, Austin had yet another gun bit, where he had a net gun he shot Nash with, after Nash yelled out "He's got a gun!". Which was awesome I found it hilarious.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 10, 2013 23:46:53 GMT -5
Honestly, I think Austin and McMahon after Judgment Day was pretty much as good as it can get when it comes to guns and wrestling.
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Post by Glitch on Jan 11, 2013 0:43:05 GMT -5
It takes it wrestling out of it's realm. Chairs, kendo sticks and ladders can be incorporated into wrestling moves, but a gun you just shoot and that's it. Plus getting shot means your dead, so not much you can do there. Same reason grenades and flamethrowers would look stupid in wrestling too.
Austin/Pillman was only good because people actually called 911 at the end of Raw.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jan 11, 2013 0:51:03 GMT -5
It's just over-the-top. Even for wrestling which is saying something.
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Post by kamero00 on Jan 11, 2013 0:57:29 GMT -5
In Michigan they passed a bill where people can bring guns into arenas. If they used one as a prop, a carried away fan could shoot the said wrestler.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 11, 2013 1:35:10 GMT -5
Because if there's guns, there's no need to "wrestle" hence no show. Because the biggest ***** would just run for his pistol instead of throwing down.
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Post by Clawley Race on Jan 11, 2013 2:13:44 GMT -5
Because why wouldnt anyone use one in a No Holds Barred/No DQ match? How could that end poorly in a live crowd?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 11, 2013 3:09:02 GMT -5
It takes it wrestling out of it's realm. Chairs, kendo sticks and ladders can be incorporated into wrestling moves, but a gun you just shoot and that's it. Plus getting shot means your dead, so not much you can do there. Same reason grenades and flamethrowers would look stupid in wrestling too. We actually got Flamethrowers in the Attitude Era. But then again, those incidents all involved Kane, so it was as ridiculous as you could imagine.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 11, 2013 9:25:39 GMT -5
Certain weapons in wrestling already stretches the realm of believability in wrestling. Guns kills it dead.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 9:31:04 GMT -5
I still think the Austin/McMahon thing took it a little far.
The best gun related moment in all of wrestling was Jesse Ventura's comment about what's legal when you go outside the ring.
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Post by hitch on Jan 11, 2013 11:02:03 GMT -5
I guess a good, if not distasteful, angle to 'shoot' (excuse the pun) would be to have a gun-gimmick segment where someone fires at the other. Then have it cut to black, hear the producers say 'It's only a god damn blank, what happened!!!' and then when we return from a commercial break that looks hasty but actually pre-arranged the commentators speak of 'an incident' backstage speculating there may have been a fragment left in the pistol, unintentionally, and that that was not part of the intended choreography of the incident.
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Post by CM Dazz on Jan 11, 2013 11:20:55 GMT -5
Because if there's guns, there's no need to "wrestle" hence no show. Because the biggest ***** would just run for his pistol instead of throwing down. /Russo on Glock on a pole, last man standing match. SWERVE Its actually a cap gun & ends in a DQ. /Russo off
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 11, 2013 11:22:08 GMT -5
"If I'm in an Iron Man Match, why can't I just bring a gun into the ring, shoot my opponent, and pin them over and over again?"
Not exactly Portia Perez's words, but close enough.
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Post by Sparvid on Jan 11, 2013 13:24:19 GMT -5
Because why wouldnt anyone use one in a No Holds Barred/No DQ match? How could that end poorly in a live crowd? Reminds me of the Swedish commentary for Royal Rumble 94 when the heels attacked Undertaker, and it wasn't against the rules. Color commentator: "Really? So he could pull out a machine gun and mow them down?" PBP: "No, then he'd go to jail" Color: "Sure, but he'd do it as the World Champion..."
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Post by Push R Truth on Jan 11, 2013 14:25:40 GMT -5
Guns/Swords/Knives seem to fall into the same category of "just too much".
Sledgie is probably the closest to that line I've personally seen.
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