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Post by chazraps on Jan 11, 2013 22:23:00 GMT -5
I still can't believe how much this board loves Riley. He was perhaps the most hated guy on the roster right around NXT (because of Kaval, probably). I really don't think he's improved THAT much. Because he busted his ass to get better in the ring even though he was pretty sloppy. And because he has a huge amount of charisma and overness for someone on his level of the card. You can tell the dude loves what he does, even if he's just jobbing. All of this. Plus, A-Ry has IT. He hasn't been regularly featured on TV in over a year but STILL night-in and night-out gets a substantial pop. Why? It's because he's got the best top-of-the-ramp head-tilt in the business. BUT ALONG WITH THAT, he just effortlessly connects with the crowd. He gets people to react. Considering, by all accounts, he came from knowing next to nothing, he's been largely humble and willing to learn, and now he's one of the fastest improving individuals in the company.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 11, 2013 22:25:29 GMT -5
Trent Barreta @trentylocks So fired right now. Just wanna say thanks to everyone. WWE, all the good brothers, and fans. Thanks. ... how is this burning his bridge in any capacity?
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 11, 2013 22:26:48 GMT -5
So fired = no talent? Guess that Austin guy in WCW didn't maximize his minutes in the several years WCW gave him, guess he didn't show enough to prove he was worth keeping around. And no, I'm sorry, but as a few other people said along with me a few pages ago so much of the cliches spouted off by JR and other guys in the front office are pure bulls***. A lot of it is being in the right place at the right time, or just being lucky. The hardest working guys do not always get the payoff for their work they deserve (with Punk basically saying as much with his Tyson Kidd reference). 1. I never said fired = no talent. Lots of wrestlers are super talented. That doesn't mean they can make it in the big leagues. Fact of life. 2. Not sure why you're comparing Trent's release to Austin's in WCW. Night and day difference, my friend. 3. How is what JR said a cliche? It's the entertainment business. There's a reason Ziggler repeats JR's phrase all the time in interviews and says he follows that mantra every day. And we can clearly see that he does. And we can also clearly see that he's rewarded for it. 4. I don't know what you're getting at with Kidd. Yeah he's not getting the most attention but he's still got a job and people love him all the same. If you're trying to imply that right now is a hard time for smaller guys to get noticed and rewarded in WWE, I'm going to kinda laugh at that. Answer me this question: How many Trent Barreta matches (not squash matches he lost in 3 minutes or under, real matches) did you watch? Did you see his series of matches against Curt Hawkins on Superstars on WGN?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 11, 2013 22:27:42 GMT -5
There was a good point in 2011ish where Trent couldn't even get on Superstars or NXT so I think that there is an argument that he wasn't put on tv enough
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 11, 2013 22:28:17 GMT -5
Almost never a good thing when someone loses their job but Barretta will be alright, I think. He's talented enough that he should be able to make decent money on the indy scene.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Jan 11, 2013 22:30:22 GMT -5
Of course I am also unsure how a guy getting 3 minutes a month on NXT is supposed to maximize his time. He's simply fallen into the same spot as guys like Percy Watson and sadly Derrick Bateman who were called up with no plan for them and then screwed over more when NXT became developmental. They aren't given a shot on main roster TV or any sort of house shows but still expected to improve. I agree that he's fallen into the same spot as Percy and Bateman. But the difference between him and those two is that they've never had a position on the main roster. Trent was in a Smackdown/ECW tag team for almost a full year before his partner was released. Then he was a singles guy for a while, getting a win every now and then. But you're right, there's maximizing your minutes and then there's the question of "Do you get over when you do that?" For Trent, the answer was no for both of them anyway.
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Post by Error on Jan 11, 2013 22:32:33 GMT -5
Almost never a good thing when someone loses their job but Barretta will be alright, I think. He's talented enough that he should be able to make decent money on the indy scene. Yeah and he's young enough that if he sticks with it that WWE will come calling in a year or two after they burn out/fire everyone else.
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Post by Starshine on Jan 11, 2013 22:33:04 GMT -5
I thought Barretta was a good wrestler, but he was pretty vanilla in every other way.
I don't know if that's his fault, or WWE's. But IMO he wasn't a good enough wrestler to rely solely on that to justify his position on the roster.
Now how long until Bret Tarretta turns up for a TNA gut check?
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Wade Wilson
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Post by chazraps on Jan 11, 2013 22:33:20 GMT -5
... how is this burning his bridge in any capacity? That was a joke. It's probably the most gracious and genuine post-future endeavors tweet I've ever read. But given the meltdowns we've had over the past year using that gif, I thought it would be funny to utilize again.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 11, 2013 22:36:10 GMT -5
I hoped that the hype around Ryder's show ending would have helped Trent out.
The Where's Trent segmemts were maximizing minutes
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Post by mrjl on Jan 11, 2013 22:39:37 GMT -5
As long as JR is singing the praises of Jack Swagger being a main event talent while telling others to step up I'll not take his thoughts seriously. Guy became senile in his time away. Of course I am also unsure how a guy getting 3 minutes a month on NXT is supposed to maximize his time. He's simply fallen into the same spot as guys like Percy Watson and sadly Derrick Bateman who were called up with no plan for them and then screwed over more when NXT became developmental. They aren't given a shot on main roster TV or any sort of house shows but still expected to improve. show it in his non-televised matches. make them want to put him on TV. I saw plenty of his ECW matches and I never wanted to change the channel, but the only reason I missed him when he was off TV is because I thought he'd make a decent tag partner to some people
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 11, 2013 22:43:31 GMT -5
I think it's a little silly to say that a guy like Trent Baretta wasn't maximizing his time when he actually managed to stay in the spotlight (well, relative to what he was getting) during an injury with the Where's Trent skits. Granted, it wasn't the most memorable thing in the world, but most guys would have just languished in obscurity in the same scenario.
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Post by Error on Jan 11, 2013 22:47:52 GMT -5
As long as JR is singing the praises of Jack Swagger being a main event talent while telling others to step up I'll not take his thoughts seriously. Guy became senile in his time away. Of course I am also unsure how a guy getting 3 minutes a month on NXT is supposed to maximize his time. He's simply fallen into the same spot as guys like Percy Watson and sadly Derrick Bateman who were called up with no plan for them and then screwed over more when NXT became developmental. They aren't given a shot on main roster TV or any sort of house shows but still expected to improve. show it in his non-televised matches. make them want to put him on TV. I saw plenty of his ECW matches and I never wanted to change the channel, but the only reason I missed him when he was off TV is because I thought he'd make a decent tag partner to some people Perhaps you missed where I stated he didn't get non televised matches? That he wasn't used on house shows for the main roster or NXT? That he got 3 minutes a month at the NXT tapings and that was it?
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 11, 2013 22:57:48 GMT -5
Wasn't Trent Baretta one of the guys that was always jobbing on Smackdown a ways back? I want to say I remember like, maybe 3 matches of his or something. He wasn't that memorable, to be honest.
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Post by BigWill on Jan 11, 2013 22:57:57 GMT -5
I think it's a little silly to say that a guy like Trent Baretta wasn't maximizing his time when he actually managed to stay in the spotlight (well, relative to what he was getting) during an injury with the Where's Trent skits. Granted, it wasn't the most memorable thing in the world, but most guys would have just languished in obscurity in the same scenario. That's only because Ryder and Baretta are friends and Ryder gets at least some input on what goes on his show. It's not like any of that was the WWE's doing. And being briefly mentioned on a show that only has a few thousand viewers is hardly "staying in the spotlight".
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Jan 11, 2013 23:06:31 GMT -5
It would be hilarious if this entire news piece is about just Trent Barreta and some random folk from NXT.
And maybe JTG...naw who am I kidding, the guy will outlast Cena.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Jan 11, 2013 23:09:58 GMT -5
Above Hornswoggle, Mason Ryan, Zeke, Rosa Mendes, and Sakamoto? Sakamoto I'll give you, but the others at least have some real function you can use them for. Mason Ryan and Zeke could make for a good tag team, Hornswoggle's over and so is good for a quick pop or some filler or something, and Rosa... Eh, she's serviceable as someone to stand by the ring while a match is going on. Not that Trent should've been cut really, but there isn't much he does that isn't also done by Kidd, Gabriel, about half of whatever they're called the development league these days, and a few others. Though it does baffle me for them to be releasing people just because when they have like eight hours of TV a week and barely have enough people to sustain half of that without padding things to oblivion. Funnily, I literally thought the exact opposite when I saw those names. The first four I wouldn't miss at all, but Sakamoto? All he was shown as was a valet, and that was barely for a full season as I recall. Dude's far from shown what he can do, so why put him on the list?
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Post by joebob27 on Jan 11, 2013 23:12:35 GMT -5
So Buggy Nova didn't think you could curse on a WWE twitter? Someone must not have given Punk the memo, then.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 11, 2013 23:15:20 GMT -5
Buggy didn't get the memo about being on drugs either
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Post by Error on Jan 11, 2013 23:16:47 GMT -5
Buggy didn't get the memo about being on drugs either She wasn't on drugs. She had an eating disorder.
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