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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 12, 2013 1:32:36 GMT -5
Rather than disband and/or start another band with a new name, some bands retain the majority of their members and hire on a new vocalist after the old one leaves. Vocalists are usually the 'front men' of their respective bands, so the departure of a vocalist is usually a big deal. It often leads to bands breaking up.
What are some examples of bands that kept going with a new vocalist and actually sound better for having done so? This is a subjective question, of course, but let's respect differing opinions and have a discussion.
I think the band A Skylit Drive is the best example of a band whose sound improved with the adoption of a new vocalist. I can't stand Jordan Blake, the band's old vocalist. Consequently, I can't stand to listen to the one album that the band recorded with him. Thankfully, Michael Jagmin is the new vocalist, and he sounds incredible. His style is totally different than Blake's, and that's the main reason why I like the band's current configuration. The old vocalist couldn't do anything but shout like a buffoon. Jagmin has incredible vocal range; the first time I heard "Wires... and The Concept of Breathing," I thought I was listening to a female vocalist!
Some people might claim that Metallica improved when James Hetfield took over vocals following Dave Mustaine being booted out of the band (on very weak grounds, might I add). I mostly disagree with this claim, but I can't imagine Mustaine singing "For Whom The Bell Tolls" or "Sanitarium" as well as Hetfield did during the recording of classic Metallica albums. Suffice it to say that I feel Hetfield works better as a vocalist on a minority of Metallica's songs.
Even though I'm not into Cannibal Corpse too much, I'd much rather listen to George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher - the band's current vocalist - than Chris Barnes, it's former vocalist. Most of the time, Barnes' vocals sounded like a constipated, bloated dude taking an awful dump.
There are other bands that picked up new vocalists, but I don't listen to them enough to comment on them. I know that some of these bands include Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and AC/DC.
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Post by John Cena's Boner on Jan 12, 2013 1:39:19 GMT -5
Rather than disband and/or start another band with a new name, some bands retain the majority of their members and hire on a new vocalist after the old one leaves. Vocalists are usually the 'front men' of their respective bands, so the departure of a vocalist is usually a big deal. It often leads to bands breaking up. What are some examples of bands that kept going with a new vocalist and actually sound better for having done so? This is a subjective question, of course, but let's respect differing opinions and have a discussion. I think the band A Skylit Drive is the best example of a band whose sound improved with the adoption of a new vocalist. I can't stand Jordan Blake, the band's old vocalist. Consequently, I can't stand to listen to the one album that the band recorded with him. Thankfully, Michael Jagmin is the new vocalist, and he sounds incredible. His style is totally different than Blake's, and that's the main reason why I like the band's current configuration. The old vocalist couldn't do anything but shout like a buffoon. Jagmin has incredible vocal range; the first time I heard "Wires... and The Concept of Breathing," I thought I was listening to a female vocalist! Some people might claim that Metallica improved when James Hetfield took over vocals following Dave Mustaine being booted out of the band (on very weak grounds, might I add). I mostly disagree with this claim, but I can't imagine Mustaine singing "For Whom The Bell Tolls" or "Sanitarium" as well as Hetfield did during the recording of classic Metallica albums. Suffice it to say that I feel Hetfield works better as a vocalist on a minority of Metallica's songs. Even though I'm not into Cannibal Corpse too much, I'd much rather listen to George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher - the band's current vocalist - than Chris Barnes, it's former vocalist. Most of the time, Barnes' vocals sounded like a constipated, bloated dude taking an awful dump. There are other bands that picked up new vocalists, but I don't listen to them enough to comment on them. I know that some of these bands include Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and AC/DC. James Hetfield has always sang for Metallica. While Dave Mustaine was in Metallica, he never sang lead vocals in the band. |
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Post by Glitch on Jan 12, 2013 2:00:16 GMT -5
This is kinda of what we already talked about in the other thread, but I'll bring up Iced Earth. In fact it's a very good example of a band going on despite changing singers often. Even the most well known vocalist(Matt Barlow) was the third guy to take the position.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 12, 2013 2:03:44 GMT -5
No kidding? If that is the case, why does Hetfield sound so different on all of Metallica's post-Kill 'Em All albums?
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jan 12, 2013 2:22:00 GMT -5
Crashdïet. While don't get me wrong, Dave Leopard was a good singer, but I think they got better on the album where Olliver Twisted took over. They are both good singers, but Ollie's voice just sounds a little better. It has a slightly softer edge, at the same time that early Axel type wale that edges him out. The band almost quit after Leopards death, but chose to go with Twisted,and it was the right descion. However, I think they regressed a tad with Cruz but still a good band none the less. Leopard Twisted Cruz www.youtube.com/watch?v=582XyRHHsrw |
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Jan 12, 2013 2:38:46 GMT -5
James LaBrie replacing Charlie Dominici as the singer for Dream Theater.
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Post by montee916 on Jan 12, 2013 4:13:07 GMT -5
For my money, Genesis once Phil Collins became their lead vocalist.
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Post by J.O.B. Squad on Jan 12, 2013 4:18:51 GMT -5
Rather than disband and/or start another band with a new name, some bands retain the majority of their members and hire on a new vocalist after the old one leaves. Vocalists are usually the 'front men' of their respective bands, so the departure of a vocalist is usually a big deal. It often leads to bands breaking up. What are some examples of bands that kept going with a new vocalist and actually sound better for having done so? This is a subjective question, of course, but let's respect differing opinions and have a discussion. I think the band A Skylit Drive is the best example of a band whose sound improved with the adoption of a new vocalist. I can't stand Jordan Blake, the band's old vocalist. Consequently, I can't stand to listen to the one album that the band recorded with him. Thankfully, Michael Jagmin is the new vocalist, and he sounds incredible. His style is totally different than Blake's, and that's the main reason why I like the band's current configuration. The old vocalist couldn't do anything but shout like a buffoon. Jagmin has incredible vocal range; the first time I heard "Wires... and The Concept of Breathing," I thought I was listening to a female vocalist! Some people might claim that Metallica improved when James Hetfield took over vocals following Dave Mustaine being booted out of the band (on very weak grounds, might I add). I mostly disagree with this claim, but I can't imagine Mustaine singing "For Whom The Bell Tolls" or "Sanitarium" as well as Hetfield did during the recording of classic Metallica albums. Suffice it to say that I feel Hetfield works better as a vocalist on a minority of Metallica's songs. Even though I'm not into Cannibal Corpse too much, I'd much rather listen to George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher - the band's current vocalist - than Chris Barnes, it's former vocalist. Most of the time, Barnes' vocals sounded like a constipated, bloated dude taking an awful dump. There are other bands that picked up new vocalists, but I don't listen to them enough to comment on them. I know that some of these bands include Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and AC/DC. \ I actually perfer ASD with Jordan Blake more probably due to the ASD for me personally not being that good,As far as bands not mentioned yet Escape The Fate comes to mind while I love Ronnie's vocals I feel Craig does just a good of a job on some of their older stuff live and on the newer stuff they have currently done. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 12, 2013 4:23:11 GMT -5
For my money, Genesis once Phil Collins became their lead vocalist. Worked out better for Genesis AND Peter Gabriel IMO |
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Post by Hurbster on Jan 12, 2013 5:54:38 GMT -5
No kidding? If that is the case, why does Hetfield sound so different on all of Metallica's post-Kill 'Em All albums? I would imagine his balls dropped. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 9:17:20 GMT -5
David Ruffin getting fired/quitting (depending on how you look at it) from the Temptations brought forth Dennis Edwards as "lead voice". Personally, I liked the change; he represented a new sound for the group.
While they still sang about love, they also sang about change and a time of revolution in the '60s.
David had a soulful voice that made you swoon. Dennis had an "in your face" quality to him.
Both were good for their time.
But losing Eddie Kendricks (the one with the higher voice) hurt the group. By then, the Temps just sounded like every other '70s soul group out there.
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Post by Jiren on Jan 12, 2013 10:42:42 GMT -5
Iron Maiden improved when Bruce Dickinson replaced Paul Paul Di'Anno
While I like Di'Anno's era, Dickinson is just better
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Post by Talent Name on Jan 12, 2013 11:00:37 GMT -5
I liked Killswitch Engage when Howard took over
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Post by H-Virus on Jan 12, 2013 12:12:06 GMT -5
Roy Khan replacing Mark Vanderbilt in Kamelot.
Matt Barlow replacing the two guys that came before him in Iced Earth.
And I always preferred Andy Deris over Michael Kiske in Helloween.
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Post by willywonka666 on Jan 12, 2013 12:15:51 GMT -5
No kidding? If that is the case, why does Hetfield sound so different on all of Metallica's post-Kill 'Em All albums? Dave did sing some lead on the "No Life 'til Leather" demos album |
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jan 12, 2013 12:18:23 GMT -5
I like AC/DC a lot better with Brian Johnson. I don't dislike Bon Scott; just prefer Brian.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Jan 12, 2013 12:58:41 GMT -5
Spencer Chamberlain over Dallas Taylor in Underoath, for sure. Though that probably has something to do with their music getting a lot better when Spencer replaced Dallas as well.
Tilian Pearson replacing Johnny Craig in Dance Gavin Dance. They haven't recorded anything yet, but Tilian is one of the greatest singers I've ever heard, and is basically perfect live. Johnny Craig is a good studio singer, but just really awful live.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 12, 2013 13:17:35 GMT -5
Alice in Chains sounds about as good with its replacement vocalist (William DuVall) as it did with its old, now deceased vocalist, Layne Staley.
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Post by sludgehammer on Jan 12, 2013 14:19:14 GMT -5
Alice in Chains sounds about as good with its replacement vocalist (William DuVall) as it did with its old, now deceased vocalist, Layne Staley. There will never be a good replacement for Layne Staley. You just can't replace someone like that. DuVall is pretty good, but when he tries to copy Staley it doesn't work. I think other than a few rough songs on the last album, they've found their new sound and the new album is going to kick ass. |
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jan 12, 2013 14:35:16 GMT -5
John Corabi replacing Vince Neil....Sure, it was totally different than the band's previous work, and his lone album with the band did not sell as well as its predecessors, but it has remained a cult favorite amongst fans of the band and of the 80s-90s metal era.
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