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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 13, 2013 0:19:03 GMT -5
Rex Grossman started a Super Bowl game. Man was he bad in that game. Bad? He was the MVP. He won that game for the Colts.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 13, 2013 0:19:29 GMT -5
Was at a bar couple of weeks ago talk to some Raven fans they thought they should get rid of him I couldn't believe it It might be because Joe Flacco sucks and if the Baltimore Ravens had a better quarterback, they'd probably have at least one or two Super Bowl appearances and/or victories in the past five seasons. Also, because I haven't been on the Forums since the game went final...when you have Peyton Manning in the playoffs, he does things that Peyton Manning does in the playoffs. Be fair, they likely have one last year if Lee Evans can hold onto a football or if Billy Cundiff doesn't forget how kicking works.
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Post by Orange on Jan 13, 2013 0:20:49 GMT -5
Well, sorry..........but that's how I feel and that's how most people I know feel. The talk of next year really hits when the Super Bowl is done. And I did the Tebow thing as irony. I wasn't gleeful as I said it, I just thought it was funny after all the stuff that was said.....they ended up at the same spot. I would have probably not felt that if the Denver Broncos this year were not overhyped and I had not been bombarded by almost every NFL "analyst" saying that the Broncos were either going to be in the Super Bowl or win the Super Bowl. You're not looking at the big picture - we didn't end up in the same spot. Last season we backed into the playoffs at 8-8, thanks to stupidity from whatever running back that was that dove out of bounds on that play and saved our season in the process. This season we made the rest of the AFC our bitch and went 13-3, got the first round bye and homefield advantage - something we haven't had in YEARS. And if we had lost next week - you would've said the same thing, but how we only got a week farther. Most Bronco fans have let Tebow go, maybe it's time for you to do the same - which ought to be easy considering you don't even like the team to begin with.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 13, 2013 0:21:04 GMT -5
Well, sorry..........but that's how I feel and that's how most people I know feel. The talk of next year really hits when the Super Bowl is done. And I did the Tebow thing as irony. I wasn't gleeful as I said it, I just thought it was funny after all the stuff that was said.....they ended up at the same spot. I would have probably not felt that if the Denver Broncos this year were not overhyped and I had not been bombarded by almost every NFL "analyst" saying that the Broncos were either going to be in the Super Bowl or win the Super Bowl. I don't see why anyone should care when you or your friends think they should talk about it, there's nothing wrong with reflecting on the season after being eliminated. And yeah, I'd say it was far more gleeful than ironic. You've taken every single opportunity you could to criticize Manning and play up how wrong they were to take Manning over Tebow, and the teams weren't even off the field before you did it again. You ignore an entire season's performance because you want to focus on one game or one pass and pretend like that's all that matters, ignoring overall performance. And as far as you not arguing that they should have kept Tebow, I still remember the lengthy debate we had last year about it, just because how ludicrous the argument was. You were saying exactly that, that they should have kept Tebow and not gone after Manning, and as proof you kept trying to name teams that had worse seasons after picking up veterans, even though most of your examples weren't that at all. Backtracking now doesn't change the fact that you've been the biggest Tebow fanboy.
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Post by Sicho100 on Jan 13, 2013 0:21:20 GMT -5
Man was he bad in that game. Bad? He was the MVP. He won that game for the Colts. Hey, let's be fair to Sexy Rexy - he's a winner. I mean, look at that Arizona game in 2006 - sure, his stats may not be good, but he led the Bears to a victory. And, really, that's all that counts.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 13, 2013 0:23:33 GMT -5
Still on Tebow when the Jags don't want u that should tell u something
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 13, 2013 0:24:39 GMT -5
Bad? He was the MVP. He won that game for the Colts. Hey, let's be fair to Sexy Rexy - he's a winner. I mean, look at that Arizona game in 2006 - sure, his stats may not be good, but he led the Bears to a victory. And, really, that's all that counts. Dennis Green not Grossman led to the Bears to victory in that game.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 13, 2013 0:24:57 GMT -5
Was at a bar couple of weeks ago talk to some Raven fans they thought they should get rid of him I couldn't believe it It might be because Joe Flacco sucks and if the Baltimore Ravens had a better quarterback, they'd probably have at least one or two Super Bowl appearances and/or victories in the past five seasons. Also, because I haven't been on the Forums since the game went final...when you have Peyton Manning in the playoffs, he does things that Peyton Manning does in the playoffs. I don't think he sucks, I think he's pretty good. He's just not on an elite level. This game really showed just how scary Flacco can be when he's on.
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Post by BRV on Jan 13, 2013 0:26:59 GMT -5
Be fair, they likely have one last year if Lee Evans can hold onto a football or if Billy Cundiff doesn't forget how kicking works. True enough, but... Against Miami in the 2009 AFC Playoffs, he was 9-for-23 for 135 yards. In the 2008 AFC Championship Game, he was a putrid 13-for-30 for 141 yards, 0 touchdowns and 3 interceptions. Against New England in the 2010 AFC Playoffs, a blowout victory, he was 4-for-10 for 34 yards, 0 touchdowns and 1 interceptions for a 17.3 rating. He almost willed the Patriots back into the game by sucking so hard. He's been good so far in the 2013 postseason, but let's see if he doesn't hide in his shell (as he normally does) next Sunday.
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Post by WorkingInAColeMine on Jan 13, 2013 0:27:06 GMT -5
Flacco is fine. Not every team can have the "elite" (which I hate the term but I'll roll with it) QB.
There are only so many Brady/Mannings/Brees/Rodgers on the face of this Earth.
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Post by Orange on Jan 13, 2013 0:28:53 GMT -5
My predictions, which after today I've learned don't mean shit, for tomorrow.
Seattle over Atlanta fairly easily. I expect the Falcons to come out and suck early, and Matty Ice will secure that Championship slot for the superior bird team.
New England over Houston in a close one. I don't think this'll be a blowout like it was last time, but I still expect New England to advance and hopefully fry the Ravens.
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Post by Sicho100 on Jan 13, 2013 0:29:21 GMT -5
Hey, let's be fair to Sexy Rexy - he's a winner. I mean, look at that Arizona game in 2006 - sure, his stats may not be good, but he led the Bears to a victory. And, really, that's all that counts. Dennis Green not Grossman led to the Bears to victory in that game. Well, I would say the Bears' defense putting on God mode may have led the team to victory, but if Tebow gets praise for winning despite playing terribly, Grossman should too.
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Post by BRV on Jan 13, 2013 0:30:37 GMT -5
I don't think he sucks, I think he's pretty good. He's just not on an elite level. This game really showed just how scary Flacco can be when he's on. The suck-ass Broncos defense definitely contributed to that cause.
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Post by Orange on Jan 13, 2013 0:31:16 GMT -5
I don't think he sucks, I think he's pretty good. He's just not on an elite level. This game really showed just how scary Flacco can be when he's on. The suck-ass Broncos defense definitely contributed to that cause. Scale of 1 to 10 - how confident are you for tomorrow's game?
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Post by Error on Jan 13, 2013 0:31:29 GMT -5
I think Flacco is better than he gets credit for. If his WRs make the easy catches or his kicker remembers his leg he's gotten to at least on SB and I think he would have knocked off the Giants. He falls into the sad trap that no matter what actually happens it all goes on the QB.
Could he have done more, possibly but if I am the Ravens I don't know who else you get that could do better. This year alone if Cam Cameron remembers Ray Rice exists and that D avoids at least one if those injuries, I think they have 2 or 3 more wins and maybe a first round bye.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 13, 2013 0:32:28 GMT -5
he 7-4 in the playoffs as a cowboys fan I would welcome that
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 13, 2013 0:33:15 GMT -5
My predictions, which after today I've learned don't mean s***, for tomorrow. Seattle over Atlanta fairly easily. I expect the Falcons to come out and suck early, and Matty Ice will secure that Championship slot for the superior bird team. New England over Houston in a close one. I don't think this'll be a blowout like it was last time, but I still expect New England to advance and hopefully fry the Ravens. If Wilson plays above his years like he has been, I think Seattle wins it too. I think Wilson might end up being the steal of the draft. I'd like to see Houston win, but I don't think it'll be as close as you do. I think the Pats run away with it again.
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Post by BRV on Jan 13, 2013 0:34:41 GMT -5
The suck-ass Broncos defense definitely contributed to that cause. Scale of 1 to 10 - how confident are you for tomorrow's game? 5 The Texans are going to rectify a lot of the problems that caused them to lose 42-14 a few weeks back and the Patriots need to be aware of that. If Houston comes out throwing the ball against the Patriots' weak secondary to set up the run, then I fear what they could do. Plus, Houston's defense is a lot better than the 42 points they surrendered. They forced two fumbles that the Patriots were lucky to recover and turn into touchdowns and another scoring drive was aided by some questionable pass interference calls. If Houston comes out running the ball on first and second down and then throwing on third, they're going to lose. But if they trust Matt Schaub to throw on the Patriots secondary in order to set up Arian Foster, then they could take it. I think the Patriots are going to win, because they are the better overall team and because I'll never bet against Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in the postseason, but this is by no means the lay-up that most fans think it is.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 13, 2013 0:40:55 GMT -5
Well, sorry..........but that's how I feel and that's how most people I know feel. The talk of next year really hits when the Super Bowl is done. And I did the Tebow thing as irony. I wasn't gleeful as I said it, I just thought it was funny after all the stuff that was said.....they ended up at the same spot. I would have probably not felt that if the Denver Broncos this year were not overhyped and I had not been bombarded by almost every NFL "analyst" saying that the Broncos were either going to be in the Super Bowl or win the Super Bowl. I don't see why anyone should care when you or your friends think they should talk about it, there's nothing wrong with reflecting on the season after being eliminated. And yeah, I'd say it was far more gleeful than ironic. You've taken every single opportunity you could to criticize Manning and play up how wrong they were to take Manning over Tebow, and the teams weren't even off the field before you did it again. You ignore an entire season's performance because you want to focus on one game or one pass and pretend like that's all that matters, ignoring overall performance. And as far as you not arguing that they should have kept Tebow, I still remember the lengthy debate we had last year about it, just because how ludicrous the argument was. You were saying exactly that, that they should have kept Tebow and not gone after Manning, and as proof you kept trying to name teams that had worse seasons after picking up veterans, even though most of your examples weren't that at all. Backtracking now doesn't change the fact that you've been the biggest Tebow fanboy. Not the biggest Tebow fanboy and you can make of that how you want, I wasn't gleeful. I had the Broncos freaking picked to win that damn game. If I was going to be like that, I would have picked the Ravens and trash talked all week about how the Ravens were gonna kick that poser Manning's ass. But I wasn't. Oh and when I said that before hand, yeah I said they shouldnt have gone after Manning and given the kid a shot as Manning was coming back from 5 NECK SURGERIES, but I guess you missed the post where I said that Manning was the better choice in the end. I was wrong, it freaking happens. What, are you Mr. Perfect on your predictions? And my examples were of replacing the guy who got you far for a guy you think is better leading to bad results which by the way, my examples of Elvis Grbac over Trent Dilfer, Brett Favre over Chad Pennigton, and Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie are still sound in that department. I never said picking up veterans over younger guys was wrong. And the critcisms of Manning weren't because I had some unreasonable fandom of Tebow, they were always he isn't as good as people are making him out to be this season; he isn't going to get the Broncos to the Super Bowl; he isn't the be-all, end-all of QBs. I didn't believe he was the MVP until the end of the season because I wait until every game is played before I ultimately say who it is and until the end, there were reasonable contenders who performed better than him. Yeah, those are unreasonable arguments (note the sarcasm). You keep calling me the biggest fanboy of Tebow which is an insult so I am going to insult you by saying you are freaking delusional in that department.
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Post by Sektor on Jan 13, 2013 0:44:07 GMT -5
Be fair, they likely have one last year if Lee Evans can hold onto a football or if Billy Cundiff doesn't forget how kicking works. True enough, but... Against Miami in the 2009 AFC Playoffs, he was 9-for-23 for 135 yards. In the 2008 AFC Championship Game, he was a putrid 13-for-30 for 141 yards, 0 touchdowns and 3 interceptions. Against New England in the 2010 AFC Playoffs, a blowout victory, he was 4-for-10 for 34 yards, 0 touchdowns and 1 interceptions for a 17.3 rating. He almost willed the Patriots back into the game by sucking so hard. He's been good so far in the 2013 postseason, but let's see if he doesn't hide in his shell (as he normally does) next Sunday. He's not Mark Sanchez. He's a completely different guy than from his rookie year, so we can safely throw '08 and probably '09 out. And he may not be elite, or even one step below it, but the guy throws deep better than anyone in the league. It helps to have a burner, but Andy Dalton showed that you still have to drop it in the guy's hands. Also, tonight confirmed my hunch that the Denver defense got fat off terrible offenses. But with a little more depth on the DLine, this could be the scariest defense in the league next year. Edit: Sorry, meant offenses. The Denver offense is for real, just not the best in the league like everyone says. Peyton Manning was the best in the league this year though, just like everyone says ;D.
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