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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 13, 2013 8:56:44 GMT -5
I dont believe I said anything about the trade during the Falcons loss, all I said was.....this was Manning's first real test and he was terrible (which he was). The only times I have brought up the Tebow situation was because I still thought it was a douchebag move by management the way they handled it. Like it or not, management handled it terribly with the lies and the whole throwing the guy under the bus. And while you can't change that, I will still call it as it was.......a complete mis-handling of a situation. Now I will say on you already putting this as an example of working out well even after one season is a little bit of a rush to judgement. Do we need to show the example of Brett Favre going to Minnesota. First year, it's all peaches until the terrible loss and the next, he did more harm to the team than good. And I will say I really don't treat this as karma, I will treat it as irony which it truly is. It's ironic after all that was said..........you ended the season at the same round you did last year. For this trade to ultimately work out for you, a Super Bowl win is a must. And that's only because of how overhyped the Broncos got by getting Manning. "You reap what you sow" is pretty much the exact definition of karma and is something you kept repeating over and over about the situation. I kept saying you reap what you sow because people didnt get that initially trying to show the irony that after everything was said and the money that was spent, the Broncos still finished in the same round as they did with the guy who they were supposedly better than and then people started attacking me. When you start doing that, I will tend to attack them right back.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 13, 2013 9:06:35 GMT -5
Free agent Matt Moore has informed the Dolphins that he plans to test the open market barring an "incredible offer" from Miami.
Yeah good luck with that
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 13, 2013 9:16:20 GMT -5
You can treat it as an insult as much as you want to, but considering the threads and how they go, I don't see it any differently (and who you picked really doesn't make a difference to me, since even Skip Bayless, who is far more obsessed than you are, picked the Steelers last year). I haven't seen anyone else treat this loss as karma for the Tebow situation, nor did anyone else bring him up immediately after the loss. I can't recall anyone else bringing up the trade after the Broncos lost to the Falcons. Even people who think he was good with the Broncos don't seem bring him up nearly as much. And I don't see anyone else declaring how "true fans" should look back on this season, this loss, or the Tebow situation. And remember that the Pennington example still doesn't work, considering they went 4-12 the year before they got Brett Favre, and there are still enough examples of teams trading up from young guys who did pretty well and it working out just fine. This one will be another one, because trading up led to the team overall being better and not requiring come-from-behind heroics to beat previously winless teams. I dont believe I said anything about the trade during the Falcons loss, all I said was.....this was Manning's first real test and he was terrible (which he was). The only times I have brought up the Tebow situation was because I still thought it was a douchebag move by management the way they handled it. Like it or not, management handled it terribly with the lies and the whole throwing the guy under the bus. And while you can't change that, I will still call it as it was.......a complete mis-handling of a situation. Now I will say on you already putting this as an example of working out well even after one season is a little bit of a rush to judgement. Do we need to show the example of Brett Favre going to Minnesota. First year, it's all peaches until the terrible loss and the next, he did more harm to the team than good. And I will say I really don't treat this as karma, I will treat it as irony which it truly is. It's ironic after all that was said..........you ended the season at the same round you did last year. For this trade to ultimately work out for you, a Super Bowl win is a must. And that's only because of how overhyped the Broncos got by getting Manning. "You reap what you sow" is a statement about karma, not irony. Irony has nothing at all to do with it, it doesn't enter the picture of the Tebow trade and the Manning pick up. Irony is when a traffic cop loses his license for unpaid parking tickets. It's not when a team drops one QB for a better one and ends the season playing much better but losing in the same round of the playoffs. That's just sports. And if they were better than they were prior to the trade, then it did work out. You don't have to win a Super Bowl for a trade or signing to be worth it, that's ridiculous. Only one team wins a title every year, and sometimes the best players just don't, sometimes they don't have the pieces around them. Dan Marino and Barry Sanders can attest to that. I also think you're drastically overstating how hyped the Broncos were.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jan 13, 2013 9:29:13 GMT -5
I dont believe I said anything about the trade during the Falcons loss, all I said was.....this was Manning's first real test and he was terrible (which he was). The only times I have brought up the Tebow situation was because I still thought it was a douchebag move by management the way they handled it. Like it or not, management handled it terribly with the lies and the whole throwing the guy under the bus. And while you can't change that, I will still call it as it was.......a complete mis-handling of a situation. Now I will say on you already putting this as an example of working out well even after one season is a little bit of a rush to judgement. Do we need to show the example of Brett Favre going to Minnesota. First year, it's all peaches until the terrible loss and the next, he did more harm to the team than good. And I will say I really don't treat this as karma, I will treat it as irony which it truly is. It's ironic after all that was said..........you ended the season at the same round you did last year. For this trade to ultimately work out for you, a Super Bowl win is a must. And that's only because of how overhyped the Broncos got by getting Manning. "You reap what you sow" is a statement about karma, not irony. Irony has nothing at all to do with it, it doesn't enter the picture of the Tebow trade and the Manning pick up. Irony is when a traffic cop loses his license for unpaid parking tickets. It's not when a team drops one QB for a better one and ends the season playing much better but losing in the same round of the playoffs. That's just sports. And if they were better than they were prior to the trade, then it did work out. You don't have to win a Super Bowl for a trade or signing to be worth it, that's ridiculous. Only one team wins a title every year, and sometimes the best players just don't, sometimes they don't have the pieces around them. Dan Marino and Barry Sanders can attest to that. I also think you're drastically overstating how hyped the Broncos were. Not in my mind, they were hyped as freaking hell by so called NFL analysts like Peter King, Herm Edwards, & Charley Casserly And it is ironic that despite everything that was said, they got to the same round as last year with a worse QB (I really could mention that they were one and done, but that's only because of the bye which they earned). Just as it is ironic that despite all that director Leigh Scott said about how The Asylum screwed his career, that his next film Flu Bird Horror.......while better than Transmorphers, still sucked.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 13, 2013 10:19:09 GMT -5
Compared to the all around circle jerk that was occurring last year with the Broncos, some analysts predicting the Broncos to win it all, especially based on their regular season record, is hardly overhyping them.
And like the statement "You reap what you sow," neither of those are ironic. In fact, if Leigh Scott said the Asylum f***ed up his career and he went on to make an awful movie, it's more proof of concept than anything else. After all, they'd have to do a pretty poor job of screwing him if he went on and did better things.
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