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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jan 18, 2013 10:23:34 GMT -5
Here are some of my thoughts on the names discussed here so far. Even though I think it's speculation and not spoilers, I'll use spoiler tags since others are doing it. {Spoiler}I think the rumored possibilities of inducting DX without Chyna or The Kliq are both stupid. The Kliq was not an on-screen group. It's core members except maybe Waltman all should be inducted individually (as well as for NWO (except Triple H and Shawn) and DX (except Nash and Hall). DX should go in, but it would be wrong to exclude Chyna if you ARE going to include New Age Outlaws and X-Pac. I think it's okay to exclude Rick Rude (he needs to go in solo) or Tori, but excluding Chyna would be wrong. It would be one thing if they inducted the DX tag team of Shawn and Triple H from the 2000s. Then it's okay to exclude Chyna. But if they induct X-Pac and the Outlaws, then Chyna needs to be there too. {Spoiler}Bob Backlund is a no-brainer and I hope it happens. {Spoiler}Kamala would be cool. Okay, and now for speculation that's not really coming from news sites and therefore I will stop using spoiler tags. The Fabulous Freebirds should have gone in in Atlanta. They still should go in and Jimmy Garvin should be included. Not only because he was a member and was associated with them for a long time, but because it would be nice to have another member standing beside Michael Hayes during the induction. To me, Jimmy Garvin was a Freebird. WWE.com includes him in the Alumni section with the Freebirds as well. King Kong Bundy should go in if Big John Studd, Greg Valentine, Nikolai Volkoff are in. He was just as memorable as them, plus he was in the main event of WrestleMania 2 with Hogan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 15:34:31 GMT -5
The Fabulous Freebirds should have gone in in Atlanta. They still should go in and Jimmy Garvin should be included. Not only because he was a member and was associated with them for a long time, but because it would be nice to have another member standing beside Michael Hayes during the induction. To me, Jimmy Garvin was a Freebird. WWE.com includes him in the Alumni section with the Freebirds as well. Absolutely. Plus I think Garvin would be a lock, moreso likely now because I doubt Hayes would want to go in alone as Gordy and now Roberts are gone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 9:20:04 GMT -5
King Kong Bundy should go in if Big John Studd, Greg Valentine, Nikolai Volkoff are in. He was just as memorable as them, plus he was in the main event of WrestleMania 2 with Hogan. {Spoiler}I think his situation was he didn't consider himself "retired", much like the reason Bob Backlund hasn't been inducted yet.
His squashing of Little Beaver at WM III is a classic piece of wrestling lore that will live on forever. Give him the HOF. I like Bundy, always have. Reminds me so much of the late John Tenta.
(Speaking of which, why not induct a midget or two?)
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Post by The Heenan Family on Jan 19, 2013 12:10:32 GMT -5
King Kong Bundy should go in if Big John Studd, Greg Valentine, Nikolai Volkoff are in. He was just as memorable as them, plus he was in the main event of WrestleMania 2 with Hogan. {Spoiler}I think his situation was he didn't consider himself "retired", much like the reason Bob Backlund hasn't been inducted yet.
His squashing of Little Beaver at WM III is a classic piece of wrestling lore that will live on forever. Give him the HOF. I like Bundy, always have. Reminds me so much of the late John Tenta.
(Speaking of which, why not induct a midget or two?) {Spoiler} Sky Low Low would be an interesting midget induction. The only problem is that he's dead. Given how many posthumous inductions WWE does per year, he's not exactly at the head of the line.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 19, 2013 16:40:53 GMT -5
Bruno getting inducted in the Garden is just too perfect.
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 20, 2013 15:31:38 GMT -5
Is it bad that whenever I hear that "HHH is planning a meeting with Bruno Sammartino" that I think of that scene in The Godfather II when Vito goes back to Italy to meet with the Don that killed his family?
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jan 20, 2013 17:59:05 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I don't know where the notion of The Kliq going in came from. It'd be retarded business, you've got a list of guys there who could be HoF draws with their respective groups, something that they're bound to be short on with the annual nature to the thing, and I can't imagine the 'E cutting itself short like that.
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Post by mizerable on Jan 20, 2013 19:27:51 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I don't know where the notion of The Kliq going in came from. It'd be retarded business, you've got a list of guys there who could be HoF draws with their respective groups, something that they're bound to be short on with the annual nature to the thing, and I can't imagine the 'E cutting itself short like that. They wouldn't be. They would just induct the same people twice over, which is why I was against Flair going in twice, even if it was for the Horsemen. It just opens the floodgates to induct the same people over and over again, thus allowing for them to keep it going since they've already cut themselves short based on who they keep snubbing year after year.
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Post by slappy on Jan 20, 2013 19:45:16 GMT -5
{Spoiler}While I am a big fan of HBK, HHH and Kevin Nash, I would absolutely hate them going in as the Kliq.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 20, 2013 22:17:35 GMT -5
I'd rather both DX and the nWo get inducted, rather than the Kliq, which was not an on-screen faction (there was never a time when all five guys were in one promotion together, and all were simultaneously faces or heels).
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Jan 20, 2013 22:28:47 GMT -5
Triple H needs to go in before he should get inducted in any other stable.
It would be weird if he got inducted as a stable and then again later on
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Post by mizerable on Jan 20, 2013 22:39:17 GMT -5
Again, outside of the fact that a few people may get left out of the HOF...can someone actually explain why stables need to be in the HOF, outside of the few (Freebirds, nWo, Four Horsemen) who were influencial? I mean do we need to pad the Hall THAT bad? No one in DX lived and died by that group and most went on (or had) successful runs outside of the group. That's the difference between tag teams and most stables. There's plenty of tag teams that haven't gotten the luxury to be there, so why jump to DX? So that we can hear about Shawn Michaels' two shiny f***ing rings?
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Post by Error on Jan 20, 2013 23:11:15 GMT -5
Again, outside of the fact that a few people may get left out of the HOF...can someone actually explain why stables need to be in the HOF, outside of the few (Freebirds, nWo, Four Horsemen) who were influencial? I mean do we need to pad the Hall THAT bad? No one in DX lived and died by that group and most went on (or had) successful runs outside of the group. That's the difference between tag teams and most stables. There's plenty of tag teams that haven't gotten the luxury to be there, so why jump to DX? So that we can hear about Shawn Michaels' two shiny f***ing rings? Because it's just a vehicle for WWE to sell tickets, shirts and DVDs? It's a gimmick to make more money on Wrestlemania weekend with no criteria other than a)does Vince like you? or b)does Vince see $$$ with you appearing? Inducting those stables means another appearance by a major name who brings in money and that means more to Vince than honoring a guy that no one would recognize or give to s***s to see. Just be thankful he's not going to induct by gimmick so we don't have to see Mick Foley inducted as Mick, Cactus Jack, Mankind and Dude Love
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Post by mizerable on Jan 21, 2013 0:02:12 GMT -5
No, I totally understand it's just a marketing scheme, and nothing more. But I would like to see someone actually legit defend this, like we've had in years past.
There's such an amazing contrast between how I looked at the 2004 class and what we might possibly get this year. Maybe it's time for Vince to delay the HOF for a bit while he reexamines his options or removes his head out of his ass.
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Post by Error on Jan 21, 2013 0:06:46 GMT -5
No, I totally understand it's just a marketing scheme, and nothing more. But I would like to see someone actually legit defend this, like we've had in years past. There's such an amazing contrast between how I looked at the 2004 class and what we might possibly get this year. Maybe it's time for Vince to delay the HOF for a bit while he reexamines his options or removes his head out of his ass. Why? Why would Vince McMahon kill off an event that makes him hundreds of thousands of dollars on the cheap and helps drive DVD sales? You can be happy that anyone is getting recognized and a paycheck or be pissed it isn't the ones you want, it doesn't matter as long as there is money to be made.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jan 21, 2013 0:09:24 GMT -5
I don't really mind the double induction thing as long as they don't overdo it. I mean, just look at the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame... isn't Eric Clapton in there 3 times over already?
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Post by mizerable on Jan 21, 2013 0:23:03 GMT -5
Why? Why would Vince McMahon kill off an event that makes him hundreds of thousands of dollars on the cheap and helps drive DVD sales? You can be happy that anyone is getting recognized and a paycheck or be pissed it isn't the ones you want, it doesn't matter as long as there is money to be made. If it ceases to be any less of a recognition hall, then it shouldn't be bothered with. If they want to go and completely kayfabe the thing...go the Slammys route. You can still make money that way and still market it as a "HOF" but it at least in that way doesn't get anyone's hopes up.
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Post by skulldouggory on Jan 21, 2013 1:40:08 GMT -5
WWE really f***ed things up with the HOF when the inducted Flair twice as part of a stable. Does that mean Arn Anderson can still get a single HOF induction, how about Terry Funk, he deserves to be in there by himself. I feel it was just a ploy to get Flair back on WWE TV. They still could of had just Flair induct Tully, Arn , JJ and Windham. Now it is open to everyone getting in twice. Hogan can get in with the NWO, HBK can get back with DX, whilst guys like Terry Funk get put in as a tag team there first go. There are no limits anymore
Its all messed up now.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jan 21, 2013 2:47:09 GMT -5
WWE really f***ed things up with the HOF when the inducted Flair twice as part of a stable. Does that mean Arn Anderson can still get a single HOF induction, how about Terry Funk, he deserves to be in there by himself. I feel it was just a ploy to get Flair back on WWE TV. They still could of had just Flair induct Tully, Arn , JJ and Windham. Now it is open to everyone getting in twice. Hogan can get in with the NWO, HBK can get back with DX, whilst guys like Terry Funk get put in as a tag team there first go. There are no limits anymore Its all messed up now. Here's my breakdown of double (or more) HOF inductees: -Hulk Hogan (individually and the nWo) -Bret Hart (individually and the Hart Foundation) -Ted DiBiase (individually and Money Inc.) -Shawn Michaels (individually and DX-possibly three-time with the Rockers) -HHH (individually and DX)
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Post by mizerable on Jan 21, 2013 3:22:43 GMT -5
Why not just induct IRS? It's not like Money Inc was some all inspiring tag team. But I think the induction can be handled appropriately without overexposing certain talents, which is what they do already with their legends. And that's the problem...we don't need to reinduct anyone. If Jim Neidhart can't get into the HOF based on his tag team merits alone, then he doesn't belong in the HOF.
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