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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 3:37:26 GMT -5
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Post by notasmark on Jan 19, 2013 3:43:41 GMT -5
Well he was wrong.
He says WCW couldn't compete with the WWF. Not only did WCW compete with the WWF almost immediately with the launch of Nitro but as we all know WCW was kicking the WWF's ass for over a year at it's hottest point.
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Post by kamero00 on Jan 19, 2013 4:00:26 GMT -5
Well he was wrong. He says WCW couldn't compete with the WWF. Not only did WCW compete with the WWF almost immediately with the launch of Nitro but as we all know WCW was kicking the WWF's ass for over a year at it's hottest point. He main point was right though. Everyone was to concerned over themselves, and it killed the product.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Jan 19, 2013 4:12:46 GMT -5
While he may not have been right about WCW, what he said sounds close to being accurate about TNA's attempt at going head to head on Mondays, even down to the keeping Sting and one or two other guys.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Jan 19, 2013 4:14:45 GMT -5
I think his opinion was shared by about 95% of the inside fans/journalists/people in wrestling. No one could have predicted WWF would sit back and watch WCW pass them by without a good fight. No one could have predicted Bischoff thinking out of the box and presenting a fresh product that struck a pop culture nerve. No one could have predicted the nWo.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 20, 2013 16:45:20 GMT -5
I think his opinion was shared by about 95% of the inside fans/journalists/people in wrestling. No one could have predicted WWF would sit back and watch WCW pass them by without a good fight. No one could have predicted Bischoff thinking out of the box and presenting a fresh product that struck a pop culture nerve. No one could have predicted the nWo. Pretty much. Plus it was a perfectly timed attack as the WWF's business was reaching new lows as 1995 dragged on.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jan 20, 2013 16:51:28 GMT -5
In the long run he was right, WCW went out of business, while the WWF is still in business.
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Post by chazraps on Jan 20, 2013 17:16:36 GMT -5
Well, he did say "maybe if they improved their resources," and that's just what they did.
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Post by britishbulldog on Jan 20, 2013 23:31:26 GMT -5
I know Heyman is a slime ball but damn I could listen to him talk about wrestling all f***ing day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 23:33:23 GMT -5
Funny that the man who would start Nitro's rating downfall is sitting next to them. They really had no idea.
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Post by ireekofawesomeness on Jan 20, 2013 23:49:55 GMT -5
this is extremely interesting...what was this shot from?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 0:42:11 GMT -5
this is extremely interesting...what was this shot from? Pun intended?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 1:02:28 GMT -5
this is extremely interesting...what was this shot from? It's from one of those fan conventions ECW held once or twice a year. This one was from WrestlePalooza in August 1995.
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Post by arrx on Jan 21, 2013 3:29:03 GMT -5
He was right, he is a wrestling prophet.
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Post by arrx on Jan 21, 2013 3:37:34 GMT -5
Well he was wrong. He says WCW couldn't compete with the WWF. Not only did WCW compete with the WWF almost immediately with the launch of Nitro but as we all know WCW was kicking the WWF's ass for over a year at it's hottest point. No he was 100% right. WCW is dead because they tried to compete with WWF and they failed big time. If he was wrong then WCW would still be around today on Monday Nights.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 21, 2013 3:48:14 GMT -5
Yeah, Heyman was right...eventually.
If WCW doesn't strike gold with the nWo, they lose the Monday Night War handily. Though having that loss in 96 or 97 could have resulted in the one-hour Saturday timeslot as opposed to outright killing the company because they wouldn't have an over-inflated budget as a result from their hot streak.
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Post by mrjl on Jan 21, 2013 7:38:45 GMT -5
didn't WCW manage to match up fairly closely before the nWo? Not ahead, but not far behind either. Vince wouldn't have changed up then
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2013 8:02:51 GMT -5
didn't WCW manage to match up fairly closely before the nWo? Not ahead, but not far behind either. Vince wouldn't have changed up then They were kind of even for a long time. Nobody was running away with the ratings battle. Nitro wins a week, then Raw wins a week. One thing that gets overlooked is how WCW would air a replay of the show, so even those who watched Raw instead of Nitro could still watch Nitro and not feel left out. (Shoot, I watched the replay before I'd head off to work.) Those replays would turn some "WWF Raw" fans into "WCW Nitro" fans. They would hype a match for next week, and you better believe they'd watch that match "live" if it was a big deal - even if it meant skipping Raw for a week. In due time, more and more of those replay watchers became exclusive Nitro viewers.
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Post by Sin Cara Tres on Jan 21, 2013 10:45:55 GMT -5
Would he be right if Nitro lasted one hundred years and then died?
omg wrestlin genius
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Post by evilone on Jan 21, 2013 11:05:08 GMT -5
Well he was wrong. He says WCW couldn't compete with the WWF. Not only did WCW compete with the WWF almost immediately with the launch of Nitro but as we all know WCW was kicking the WWF's ass for over a year at it's hottest point. No he was 100% right. WCW is dead because they tried to compete with WWF and they failed big time. If he was wrong then WCW would still be around today on Monday Nights. Ummm no. Reason why we don't have WCW anymore is because those providing financial backup didn't want to have WCW. Easy as that. Everything else like poor management, big salaries comes as second. And poor storylines/booking/bad product (if there is such a thing as good product in wrestling) were never ever part of that equation, ever.
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