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Post by dav on Jan 27, 2013 13:36:27 GMT -5
Kofi's a solid midcarder and I'm pretty sure that's all WWE sees him as. They give him enough to get over as a midcarder but use him pretty much as a jobber for upper-midcard Heels. Just look what they did during the Alberto Del Rio feud he had, his credibility went completely down the drain simply so they could have Del Rio look good. He's over with the crowd and can have exciting matches so his spot his safe but I think that's the spot he'll get while with the company.
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 27, 2013 13:43:53 GMT -5
He just needs a new character. Like...ANYTHING. Even if he becomes a used car salesman or something. He's the same guy today than he was in 2008. Not even the slightest trace of evolution to his character. He'll probably get to do a fancy spot in the Rumble tonight, at least. Just give him a Cool Runnings gimmick complete with Bobsled that he rides down the ramp to the ring. New boom! boom! boom! period. I'm not one for fixing posts but it had to be done. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 27, 2013 14:13:16 GMT -5
Best suited for tag teams. Give him a long term tag partner like a Big Zeke who will act as a contrast to his style, and he'll be fine.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 27, 2013 14:14:45 GMT -5
Best suited for tag teams. Give him a long term tag partner like a Big Zeke who will act as a contrast to his style, and he'll be fine. I say just put Air Boom back together when Evan Bourne finally comes back. Kofi isn't going anywhere, and Bourne definitely isn't going anywhere, so just let them not go anywhere together. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 27, 2013 14:16:05 GMT -5
Best suited for tag teams. Give him a long term tag partner like a Big Zeke who will act as a contrast to his style, and he'll be fine. I say just put Air Boom back together when Evan Bourne finally comes back. Kofi isn't going anywhere, and Bourne definitely isn't going anywhere, so just let them not go anywhere together. Sounds good. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 27, 2013 14:26:41 GMT -5
Kofi Kingston is this generation's Tito Santana. Contrary to popular belief, that is not a bad thing.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 27, 2013 14:30:08 GMT -5
Kofi Kingston is this generation's Tito Santana. Contrary to popular belief, that is not a bad thing. To me it's a bad thing when he's the God of the midcard and no other midcard guys are allowed to be over and/or credible. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 14:33:48 GMT -5
Kofi Kingston is this generation's Tito Santana. Contrary to popular belief, that is not a bad thing. To me it's a bad thing when he's the God of the midcard and no other midcard guys are allowed to be over and/or credible. I agree with you, but think other guys are over/more important/better utilised than him now (Cesaro and Barrett came to mind first but there are more, Miz being obvious too). WWE's midcard is getting better. I think the issue with him being the permanent long term midcarder for me is just that I don't like his character, his moveset, and audiences tire of him at times and that's not good. Tito Santana wasn't booed against certain opponents either (Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler) so it sort of seems flawed. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 27, 2013 14:33:49 GMT -5
Kofi Kingston is this generation's Tito Santana. Contrary to popular belief, that is not a bad thing. To me it's a bad thing when he's the God of the midcard and no other midcard guys are allowed to be over and/or credible. That's WWE's fault, not his. It be like me blaming the Miz for John Morrison not becoming a WWE champion. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 27, 2013 14:42:04 GMT -5
To me it's a bad thing when he's the God of the midcard and no other midcard guys are allowed to be over and/or credible. I agree with you, but think other guys are over/more important/better utilised than him now (Cesaro and Barrett came to mind first but there are more, Miz being obvious too). WWE's midcard is getting better. I think the issue with him being the permanent long term midcarder for me is just that I don't like his character, his moveset, and audiences tire of him at times and that's not good. Tito Santana wasn't booed against certain opponents either (Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler) so it sort of seems flawed. Agreed on Cesaro, but I think the only reason that Miz and Barrett are such forces in the midcard is because they previously enjoyed pushes in the main event, and thus it wouldn't be realistic to suddenly book them at Zack Ryder/Heath Slater level (although in Miz's case it didn't stop them from trying). If a non-former World Champion or non-former main eventer got the same treatment that Miz gets (and I like The Miz), then I'd see an improvement. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 14:43:53 GMT -5
I'm 99.9% certain that if Kofi reprised the El Matador gimmick he'd be over like rover.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 15:04:03 GMT -5
I agree with you, but think other guys are over/more important/better utilised than him now (Cesaro and Barrett came to mind first but there are more, Miz being obvious too). WWE's midcard is getting better. I think the issue with him being the permanent long term midcarder for me is just that I don't like his character, his moveset, and audiences tire of him at times and that's not good. Tito Santana wasn't booed against certain opponents either (Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler) so it sort of seems flawed. Agreed on Cesaro, but I think the only reason that Miz and Barrett are such forces in the midcard is because they previously enjoyed pushes in the main event, and thus it wouldn't be realistic to suddenly book them at Zack Ryder/Heath Slater level (although in Miz's case it didn't stop them from trying). If a non-former World Champion or non-former main eventer got the same treatment that Miz gets (and I like The Miz), then I'd see an improvement. A very good point, agreed. |
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 27, 2013 15:24:05 GMT -5
I don't mind Kofi, but agree it would be nice to see someone else get a chance to shine. Gabriel or a returning (if he ever returns) Bourne would be good. But please, no Alex Riley.
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Post by jimmyjames on Jan 27, 2013 16:06:28 GMT -5
They seem to do this every now and then to Kofi. Sometimes they move him to tag team and he becomes champ, but almost any available credible partner is injured, so thye current don't have him as much. In a couple of months, he'll probably be challenging for the U.S. or Intercontinental belts again.
While WWE might not every make him WWE or World Heavyweight champ, they need a reliable face who is over as heck with the crowd, especially kids, and who sells tons merchandise, and does it in the confines of the WWE.
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Post by hotshotalex on Jan 27, 2013 16:14:03 GMT -5
A shame this happened right when members of the WWE Universe started calling him Wild Cat.
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Post by Dat Dude on Jan 27, 2013 17:33:16 GMT -5
Just like Morrison, a guy who they just won't pull the trigger on despite doing everything someone transitioning to the main-event is expected to do:
Getting over? Check.
Sell some merch? Check.
Establish go home moves that the crowd reacts to? Check.
Can cut a convincing promo? Check.
Win a bunch of mid-card titles? Check.
Have a view memorable moments on PPVs? Check.
If you continually drop the ball or don't strike when the iron is hot, the crowd eventually starts to notice and become apathetic. But for him there maybe still time to recover.
If I had to pick one guy to end Punk's long reign and really use it to a maximum effect it would be Kofi. Ryback, Rock, Bryan and Cena are already maineventers, them ending Punk's reign is just icing on the cake. For Kofi it would really "make" him as a star.
All it was takes is for Kofi to have the usual impressive performance in the Rumble but this time with him and Cena as the last two men standing. Who do you think the crowd is gonna root for in that stare down? A Rumble win for him would bring his popularity to it's peak.
I'm not even a Kofi fan, but the dude has done everything asked of him as a performer and still can't break that glass ceiling. Does WWE want another main-eventer or do they want another Morrison?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 17:35:35 GMT -5
Kofi Kingston is this generation's Tito Santana. Contrary to popular belief, that is not a bad thing. This is an interesting comment, and one I'm at a loss to disagree with. I like to think of Kane as a Tito-like person - does the job, has no problem with it, gets a push here or there - but Kane is booked much more significantly and with more succeess than Tito was. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 17:59:58 GMT -5
If he was at all Main event material, it would have happened by now. I can't get behind that opinion at all. Especially when you consider this company's track record. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2013 18:08:56 GMT -5
Just like Morrison, a guy who they just won't pull the trigger on despite doing everything someone transitioning to the main-event is expected to do: Getting over? Check. Sell some merch? Check. Establish go home moves that the crowd reacts to? Check. Can cut a convincing promo? Check. Win a bunch of mid-card titles? Check. Have a view memorable moments on PPVs? Check. Kofi and Morrison can cut convincing promos? First that I've heard of it. |
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Post by Dat Dude on Jan 27, 2013 18:20:30 GMT -5
Just like Morrison, a guy who they just won't pull the trigger on despite doing everything someone transitioning to the main-event is expected to do: Getting over? Check. Sell some merch? Check. Establish go home moves that the crowd reacts to? Check. Can cut a convincing promo? Check. Win a bunch of mid-card titles? Check. Have a view memorable moments on PPVs? Check. Kofi and Morrison can cut convincing promos? First that I've heard of it. By convincing I mean, gets their point across in a believable way, which all you need really. Not everyone needs to be dynamite on the mic to sell tickets. Jeff Hardy and Batista weren't really all that better than Morrison or Kofi on the mic. They were passable enough to get their point across because their promos weren't the reason people got behind them in the first place. It was other factors (like their look, style in the ring, etc.) same as Kofi or Morrison. |
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