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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 30, 2013 6:53:45 GMT -5
He'd be lucky to remain in the mid-card.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 30, 2013 6:58:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure. Right now, he's playing a role. It's embarrassing to be made to look bad, but when I was in Lance Storm's school, Lance unintentionally look like a dumb internet smark, while discussing with the class about the Raw the night before. I talked about Jack Swagger being buried, and basically I was told that it was his role. I didn't get the business, and in learning about that, I try to look at guys like Kofi Kingston and Cody Rhodes in a different light. One of my own personal pet peeves is guys getting turns at the World Title. I think there should be a list of the greatest wrestlers never to be World Champion, because you can look back at those who could have been great World Champions, but the reigns were long and well established that they didn't make it to the top. Maybe he could be used in a main event role, but for the foreseeable future, unless they see something different in them, or they see the crowd reacting differently to this person, they'll stay where they belong. I guess I'm biased towards Daniel Bryan in thinking he'll be more then someone like Cody Rhodes and Kofi Kingston, based on his reactions. At this point, Bryan is an upper midcard comedy babyface. He could be thrown into a main event situation, due to his talent, but right now, he has a particular role. It's hard to accept, but pro wrestling is a lot like a movie. A lot of people liked Lando from Star Wars. But he wasn't the star. A lot of people liked Han Solo, but his role wasn't to be the main star. You build a guy like Cody Rhodes up, but it's simply to use him to make someone bigger look good, someone who will draw you your money. John Cena was used as that guy before, but once they got their claws into him, and the idea that he would be the top guy, it was full steam ahead. They built up Brodus Clay, so that he could put over Antonio Cesaro. They built up Antonio Cesaro, so that he could put over Randy Orton. Maybe Brodus and Cesaro will be higher, but they could be the guys that are the ones forever going over. It's very likely a temporary thing, though. Just because he's not being booked favorably now doesn't mean that will always be the case. I remember various posters pretty much declaring that Cesaro would go nowhere because he began with a very shaky push. If a guy like Yoshi or JTG were trotted out to job, I could see the worry - WWE has never really liked them. That's not true with Rhodes. They maybe liked though, that's the thing. Take Funaki. People joke about how long he was employed for, but from what I gather, he asked for a release. He's fine. He was so good at being that guy to get a Brodus Clay over, to get Antonio Cesaro over, to get Randy Orton over. Everyone is important. Some guys are replaceable. But Funaki was so good at his job, he kept it for 10 years.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 30, 2013 7:10:15 GMT -5
There's no need to rush Cody, granted he shouldn't be getting squashed like that but I'm sure his time will come.
They shouldn't have dropped the masked gimmick though. I'm a big fan of Cody but without that, he's got nothing... he's just bland with a moustache.
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Post by Abdullah on Jan 30, 2013 7:22:47 GMT -5
They maybe liked though, that's the thing. Take Funaki. People joke about how long he was employed for, but from what I gather, he asked for a release. He's fine. He was so good at being that guy to get a Brodus Clay over, to get Antonio Cesaro over, to get Randy Orton over. Everyone is important. Some guys are replaceable. But Funaki was so good at his job, he kept it for 10 years. Cody isn't Funaki though. He's someone who could easily be a main-event player, someone who played a role close to that in 2011 to the acclaim of many. He's also very young, which I think is why WWE doesn't mind waiting to pull the trigger on him. Sheamus was at a point not too long ago where he was jobbing to Evan Bourne. Look where he is now. I think Cody's in a bit of a slump - there's no reason to view it as a permanent situation.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 30, 2013 7:52:40 GMT -5
Cody is currently in his mid-card gold phase. A lot of the greatest talents, particularly in the old days, went through a few years where they were mid-card but brilliant, and then once the old main eventers rolled on they got a chance.
Cody's still young and I think he's going to get his chance one day, even if it's just with the WHC.
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Post by Jimmy on Jan 30, 2013 8:03:39 GMT -5
Cody is a future main event player. He should be there already, but WWE has stopped and started too much with him. Still, he should be fine.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Jan 30, 2013 8:10:06 GMT -5
I think he'll get there, he just needs the right gimmick. Ziggler was the same way until he started the whole Edge/Shawn Michaels hybrid thing, so who knows what will push Cody to that point, but I think he's talented enough to get there eventually.
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Post by dav on Jan 30, 2013 9:14:48 GMT -5
The mid-card isn't Hell. It's a vital part of any wrestling company. Just because you don't reach the top doesn't mean you're not worth anything.
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Post by Bo Rida on Jan 30, 2013 9:53:40 GMT -5
Yep, the poor guy always gets his momentum cut off, there's only so many times that can happen before people stop caring.
Raw ends with the crowd chanting Cody's name after Orton attacked his Dad? That never happened and the footage was redubbed. Awesome masked character? Lose mask. Interesting tag-team? Possibly broken up without a word. Great performance in the rumble? Jobbed out the next night.
There's nothing wrong with being in the mid-card, in fact I think Cody is the ideal mid-carder but there is something wrong with confusing character development, stop/start pushes and storylines never being followed to any logical conclusion.
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Post by Monster Under Your Bed on Jan 30, 2013 9:59:14 GMT -5
He seems to make the most of his tv time. Those are the guys that get there eventually. It'll happen.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 30, 2013 10:33:07 GMT -5
The mid-card isn't hell. Many all-time greats made careers there
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Jan 30, 2013 10:41:14 GMT -5
The mid-card isn't Hell. It's a vital part of any wrestling company. Just because you don't reach the top doesn't mean you're not worth anything. The problem is the modern-day WWE mid-card is it feels like the WWE itself doesn't care about it. The best fued you can get there is where the face wins 458 times, the heel two, then it just drops off.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 30, 2013 15:58:44 GMT -5
The mid-card isn't hell. Many all-time greats made careers there The problem is that modern fans are spoiled by people winning world titles early in their WWE careers. Winning a world title nowadays is the equivalent of winning the IC title in the 90's. Too many folks win before they are ready and wind up right back where they were before winning. Sometimes worst off from the win. It used to be a big event even getting a title shot.
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Post by Cronant on Jan 30, 2013 16:01:16 GMT -5
Nothing he's doing right now makes me want to see him move up.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 30, 2013 16:13:14 GMT -5
If he was Goldust, I'd proably care a little more.
Even if he was still "Saw" Cody Rhodes with the mask, I would have cared. I'm long past that point now.
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Post by Hanz Moleman on Jan 30, 2013 16:20:12 GMT -5
There are already so many main eventers. Plus, is Cody even 30 yet? The guy has plenty of road ahead of him to get a chance.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 30, 2013 16:27:43 GMT -5
There are already so many main eventers. Plus, is Cody even 30 yet? The guy has plenty of road ahead of him to get a chance. Cody is 27. He could easily thrive in the midcard. The problem is that ever since his push began, Cody is used as main event face fodder simply because WWE refuses to elevate any midcard faces to his own level. EVERYONE, including John Cena, is merely used to job to someone higher in the pecking order than them.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jan 30, 2013 16:55:43 GMT -5
It looks like it for now. I think he could get bumped up to the main event when Team Rhodes Scholars is done. However I can see them pushing Sandow and keeping Cody at the mid-card as well. It all depends on what they do after Team Rhodes Scholars breaks up.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 30, 2013 16:58:26 GMT -5
No. Not at all. In fact no one is in my opinion. Wrestling is all about taking advantage of opportunities. Saying or doing the right thing at the right time that makes you unique and indispensable.
Cody's fantastic. But he's also very young. There's no need to just whack him in the main event and hope it works before he really fits there. There is a misconception in wrestling that there is a limited amount of attempts open to a wrestler to 'make it'. There isn't. He'll be a main event-er when the time comes and he hits on something that makes everyone take notice.
Cody's got the look and the skills and all the talent so now it's about finding something that makes him a Star rather than just a talented worker. That's when people become main event-ers. You can't just make someone a main event-er. They have to have something about them that people want to see. Something only they can offer.
And you can tell Cody understands that as well. Hence his constant quest to add something to his character that distinguishes him. In a similar way to how 'YES' did for Bryan or the Pipebomb did for Punk or 'Feed Me More' is doing for Ryback.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 17:23:27 GMT -5
Problem with moving Cody up is you have the same assholes in the main event scene that have been there way too long and a ton of us have long since tired of.
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