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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 30, 2013 17:36:45 GMT -5
I don't think so at all. Why would they give him such a good showing in the Rumble if they thought so poorly of him?
It is just tough to push all the wrestlers all the time. Once they find someway to end Rhodes scholars I think Cody could have a shot at the main event. I don't think Del Rio/Cody for the Heavyweight Championship sounds too ridiculous.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 30, 2013 18:02:54 GMT -5
Would it be entirely a bad thing if he stuck around the midcard though?
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 30, 2013 18:07:06 GMT -5
Problem with moving Cody up is you have the same assholes in the main event scene that have been there way too long and a ton of us have long since tired of. Like CM Punk?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 30, 2013 18:07:17 GMT -5
Would it be entirely a bad thing if he stuck around the midcard though? A midcard that actually matters, no. A midcard that solely exists as fodder, and/or for comedy segments, yes.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 30, 2013 18:15:05 GMT -5
Problem with moving Cody up is you have the same assholes in the main event scene that have been there way too long and a ton of us have long since tired of. Like CM Punk? Remember when he was doomed to mid card hell after losing to Triple H?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 18:25:05 GMT -5
Problem with moving Cody up is you have the same assholes in the main event scene that have been there way too long and a ton of us have long since tired of. Like CM Punk? If you don't like him then sure. Everyone's got a few they're plain sick of. They don't get rotated out enough.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 30, 2013 18:29:52 GMT -5
Kofi is in a worse spot, but yeah Cody is getting there
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Post by mjolnir on Jan 30, 2013 21:34:26 GMT -5
Cody's been an odd case to follow. I've been a fan of him since Simply Priceless, though I thought he started showing real potential towards the end of Legacy. It was when he became the Patrick Bateman style Dashing character that I thought, man, this guy was on the cusp. Then UnDashing happened and he blew my mind, showing range I wasn't sure he was capable of and I loved the entire run of it.
Then they took away the mask. And, I was like...okay, cool, well, he's still got this odd psycho edge to him, again, acting a little like Patrick Bateman. I see potential still.
Then he stopped doing that. Then little by little they stripped away facets and traits of his character he had built up over the course of those two years or so. Till he was just another cocky heel, the only time showing real potential to stand out amongst the pack being his feud with Big Show, albeit it didn't do him any favors.
I was initially excited for Rhode Scholars and I think Sandow and him play well off of each other. But I can't help but think there's so much wasted potential in the two being paired together, when they could be used so much better as singles wrestlers. Especially if they aren't going to push the two as something of a two man alliance threat like I was hoping they would, almost like a less built up Two Man Power Trip. With Sandow as the cold, calculating one and Cody as the slightly unhinged one, filling the Triple H and Steve Austin roles respectedly.
The showing he got at the Rumble gave me a little hope, but that feeling keeps diminishing in me as they diminish the push further & further they're giving Cody.
I mean, there was a time when Cody Rhodes was heavily featured on the Road to Wrestlemania on Smackdown. He had one of the most well booked, most hyped, given the most time to develop non-title matches on the card a few years ago against a Hall of Fame bound wrestler that he defeated.
Now, this year it looks like he'll be lucky to get on the pre-show unless something drastic changes.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 30, 2013 21:45:53 GMT -5
Would it be entirely a bad thing if he stuck around the midcard though? A midcard that actually matters, no. A midcard that solely exists as fodder, and/or for comedy segments, yes. The midcard been like that for decades. Before you say the Attitude Era was the exemption, it happen then too. Billy Gunn lost to the Rock in a one-sided feud. Steve Austin destroyed more midcarders with stunners than main eventers. No one believed Farooq was going to beat the Undertaker. Edge and Christian achieve the bulk of their fame and praise during the Reeking of Awesomeness phase.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 30, 2013 23:28:05 GMT -5
A midcard that actually matters, no. A midcard that solely exists as fodder, and/or for comedy segments, yes. The midcard been like that for decades. Before you say the Attitude Era was the exemption, it happen then too. Billy Gunn lost to the Rock in a one-sided feud. Steve Austin destroyed more midcarders with stunners than main eventers. No one believed Farooq was going to beat the Undertaker. Edge and Christian achieve the bulk of their fame and praise during the Reeking of Awesomeness phase. The difference is that those guys served more of a purpose. Even if they jobbed to Rock or Austin, they had feuds with each other to build/re-build heat and look credible. You're not going to see Cody Rhodes feuding with Kofi Kingston any time soon.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 31, 2013 9:10:29 GMT -5
The midcard been like that for decades. Before you say the Attitude Era was the exemption, it happen then too. Billy Gunn lost to the Rock in a one-sided feud. Steve Austin destroyed more midcarders with stunners than main eventers. No one believed Farooq was going to beat the Undertaker. Edge and Christian achieve the bulk of their fame and praise during the Reeking of Awesomeness phase. The difference is that those guys served more of a purpose. Even if they jobbed to Rock or Austin, they had feuds with each other to build/re-build heat and look credible. You're not going to see Cody Rhodes feuding with Kofi Kingston any time soon. If they did feud, people would be screaming to end it already after the third match. Remember how the Ziggler/Kingston feud was treated? It was long term. It had a title on the line. Yet people wanted it to end because they wrestled against each other too much. How can you build a feud without a series of matches?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 9:16:08 GMT -5
The difference is that those guys served more of a purpose. Even if they jobbed to Rock or Austin, they had feuds with each other to build/re-build heat and look credible. You're not going to see Cody Rhodes feuding with Kofi Kingston any time soon. If they did feud, people would be screaming to end it already after the third match. Remember how the Ziggler/Kingston feud was treated? It was long term. It had a title on the line. Yet people wanted it to end they wrestled against each other too much. How can you build a feud without a series of matches? Yeah, but the problem with the Ziggler/Kingston feud was that it happened so often, and yet there was absolutely nothing to their feuds outside of 'you have title, I want title, lets fight!'. Lazy booking at its finest.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 31, 2013 9:25:31 GMT -5
If they did feud, people would be screaming to end it already after the third match. Remember how the Ziggler/Kingston feud was treated? It was long term. It had a title on the line. Yet people wanted it to end they wrestled against each other too much. How can you build a feud without a series of matches? Yeah, but the problem with the Ziggler/Kingston feud was that it happened so often, and yet there was absolutely nothing to their feuds outside of 'you have title, I want title, lets fight!'. Lazy booking at its finest. That's basic booking 101. People were looking for major plot developments and a blood feud. At the time, neither one could build the the feud on the mic. Vickie had to do the talking for Dolph.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 10:35:13 GMT -5
Yeah, but the problem with the Ziggler/Kingston feud was that it happened so often, and yet there was absolutely nothing to their feuds outside of 'you have title, I want title, lets fight!'. Lazy booking at its finest. That's basic booking 101. People were looking for major plot developments and a blood feud. At the time, neither one could build the the feud on the mic. Vickie had to do the talking for Dolph. A basic booking 101 feud would be OK if it was a short feud, but the fact of the matter is that they've had multiple 'feuds' over the past few years that have been basic and has led to not many people caring. They feuded for the majority of 2010, then they feuded twice in 2011, and they feuded once again in 2012 for the tag titles. Everything single time there was nothing to their matches outside of one person having a title and the other wanting to win it. Doing that once is fine, maybe twice is forgivable, but FOUR TIMES? That's just lazy booking, much like the majority of the midcard. And whilst I wasn't personally expecting a blood feud, I was expecting some variety. Nearly every match they had was just a straight up singles match, which is ridiculous for two guys who've faced each other so many times. Its like when Sheamus and Del Rio feuded for nearly six months and EVERY match they had was a one on one singles match. So your telling me that these guys have been fighting for months, and they're going to end the feud with.....the same match they competed in during the rest of the storyline?
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 31, 2013 19:37:24 GMT -5
Kofi is in a worse spot, but yeah Cody is getting there To me, Kofi SCREAMS career midcarder. But there's nothing wrong with that, provided they actual use/improve/whatever the midcard.
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Post by YiHammer on Feb 1, 2013 4:35:17 GMT -5
He hasn't recovered from losing his Dashing and UnDashing gimmicks.
That awful Big Show feud didn't help
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 5:07:28 GMT -5
He hasn't recovered from losing his Dashing and UnDashing gimmicks. That awful Big Show feud didn't help The feud where Cody dominated Show for 3 months, had 3 weeks where he was embarrassed (he's the heel so that was his comeuppance), yet still walked out of the feud having defeated the Big Show and regained his Intercontinental title? Whilst getting a standing ovation for walking out of Extreme Rules under his own power after that horrendous table bump. It's not like the following months where Cody didn't seem to have a storyline for more than a few weeks at a time was what really damaged him at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2013 6:07:51 GMT -5
He hasn't recovered from losing his Dashing and UnDashing gimmicks. That awful Big Show feud didn't help The feud where Cody dominated Show for 3 months, had 3 weeks where he was embarrassed (he's the heel so that was his comeuppance), yet still walked out of the feud having defeated the Big Show and regained his Intercontinental title? Whilst getting a standing ovation for walking out of Extreme Rules under his own power after that horrendous table bump. It's not like the following months where Cody didn't seem to have a storyline for more than a few weeks at a time was what really damaged him at all. You say that though, but between Wrestlemania and Extreme Rules, Cody lost all of his matches on TV. I looked it up, and was shocked to find that between the Royal Rumble and Extreme Rules last year, Cody Rhodes went 1-14 on TV. He may have trumped Big Show in a few promo's but in the ring he was booked like a joke.
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Post by Taupy on Feb 1, 2013 17:01:28 GMT -5
WWE rarely gives a big push to wrestler under 30 years old. Cody is still young and his time will come.
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Post by BigWill on Feb 1, 2013 17:08:12 GMT -5
I don't think so at all. Why would they give him such a good showing in the Rumble if they thought so poorly of him? He had an even better showing at last years Royal Rumble, and they haven't done much with him since then. And I don't think it's so much that they think poorly of him, they just don't see him as anything more than a midcarder.
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