mrbananagrabber
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jan 30, 2013 3:02:51 GMT -5
Think back a year or so ago, when Cody was rocking the insane Doctor Doom gimmick, with the creepy music, plastic mask and super villain voice. THAT was a character, and it was going places, going over a still relevant Mysterio at Wrestlemania.
Look at him now. His entire character and gimmick is ...he has a moustache. That's it. That's him. That's all the commentary team can think to talk about when he's there. Cena rolling over him without breaking a sweat on Raw is pretty much where he is now.
Is this IT for Cody?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 3:05:34 GMT -5
Yes.
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mizerable
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Post by mizerable on Jan 30, 2013 3:06:10 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 3:06:23 GMT -5
He's younger than most of the roster aside from a half dozen guys, he'll be upper midcard for a long time, but he'll have his time to shine in a few years.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 30, 2013 3:06:43 GMT -5
Pretty much, yeah.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 30, 2013 3:07:05 GMT -5
I think Cody suffers from the product being booked around the special attractions, and the main event scene in general being so bloated. Cody is one of those upper card talents that WWE goes out of their way to make sure he's on RAW/PPV every week (most of the time), but he's the lowest on the totem pole, so he gets bumped down due to certain circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 3:08:05 GMT -5
Everyone in the midcard will stay there for the forseeable future.
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 30, 2013 3:09:33 GMT -5
I think he's been great as part of the Rhodes Scholars. Not everybody needs to be a main eventer.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 30, 2013 3:32:57 GMT -5
I think he's been great as part of the Rhodes Scholars. Not everybody needs to be a main eventer. Yeah, this.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 30, 2013 3:40:42 GMT -5
His entire character and gimmick is ...he has a moustache. That's it. That's him. That's all the commentary team can think to talk about when he's there. I think we the fans have to take the blame for that. The people chanted "Cody's Mustache" and got it trending on twitter.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jan 30, 2013 3:41:07 GMT -5
My honest guess is that he's going to stick around as a consistent midcard/upper-midcard workhorse for a very long time, then get a brief transitional "thank you" run in the main event in about ten years.
I think he could make it up there a lot quicker with the right gimmick, but WWE still doesn't try batshit insane New Generation-esque gimmicks very often these days, and that's exactly the sort of thing Cody would excel at.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 4:05:08 GMT -5
He hits every mark WWE wants in their wrestlers. He looks good, can wrestle and works a basic style, shows a ton of personality any chance he gets and can pull off over the top stuff. Can't imagine he won't be a main eventer in a few year when he's around 30.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 30, 2013 4:07:20 GMT -5
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED
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Buddy Peacock
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Post by Buddy Peacock on Jan 30, 2013 4:26:48 GMT -5
Of course not. He's far too talented. It's Mania season right now so if you aren't Cena/Brock/Rock/Sheamus/Orton/etc then you are going to job to the stars.
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Post by Paul E. Funk on Jan 30, 2013 4:36:34 GMT -5
I was hoping his interaction with Goldust would be a sign of a program leading into Mania.
It would be a perfect way to boost Cody to a new level; Goldust get's incredible sympathy as a babyface and, as the Rumble showed, he hasn't lost that ability.
A brother feud with Cody with Dusty in the middle would get a lot of interest and TV time. I was very disappointed not to see Goldust on Raw.
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Post by 4real on Jan 30, 2013 4:58:21 GMT -5
Losing his mask was the first step towards midcard doom. Feud with Big Show was the nail in the coffin really.
Hes still in a good spot with a company, a spot a load of guys on the roster would like to have, but his days of people willing him to be a future Champion are pretty much over. He doesn't stand out enough anymore.
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Post by Abdullah on Jan 30, 2013 5:18:19 GMT -5
This is a very reactionary thread. He's young, only 27, and already something of a veteran by today's standards - he can more than afford to spend some time in a tag team, way more than other guys at least.
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Post by The Freakin' Deacon on Jan 30, 2013 5:45:12 GMT -5
At one point it seemed to me that Dolph Ziggler and Cody Rhodes were on two separate yet equal journeys to the top. And theeeeeeeen, I'm not sure what happened.. I really wanted to see them eventually have a main event program together.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jan 30, 2013 6:30:43 GMT -5
I'm not sure. Right now, he's playing a role.
It's embarrassing to be made to look bad, but when I was in Lance Storm's school, Lance unintentionally look like a dumb internet smark, while discussing with the class about the Raw the night before. I talked about Jack Swagger being buried, and basically I was told that it was his role. I didn't get the business, and in learning about that, I try to look at guys like Kofi Kingston and Cody Rhodes in a different light.
One of my own personal pet peeves is guys getting turns at the World Title. I think there should be a list of the greatest wrestlers never to be World Champion, because you can look back at those who could have been great World Champions, but the reigns were long and well established that they didn't make it to the top. Maybe he could be used in a main event role, but for the foreseeable future, unless they see something different in them, or they see the crowd reacting differently to this person, they'll stay where they belong.
I guess I'm biased towards Daniel Bryan in thinking he'll be more then someone like Cody Rhodes and Kofi Kingston, based on his reactions. At this point, Bryan is an upper midcard comedy babyface. He could be thrown into a main event situation, due to his talent, but right now, he has a particular role. It's hard to accept, but pro wrestling is a lot like a movie. A lot of people liked Lando from Star Wars. But he wasn't the star. A lot of people liked Han Solo, but his role wasn't to be the main star.
You build a guy like Cody Rhodes up, but it's simply to use him to make someone bigger look good, someone who will draw you your money. John Cena was used as that guy before, but once they got their claws into him, and the idea that he would be the top guy, it was full steam ahead.
They built up Brodus Clay, so that he could put over Antonio Cesaro. They built up Antonio Cesaro, so that he could put over Randy Orton. Maybe Brodus and Cesaro will be higher, but they could be the guys that are the ones forever going over.
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Abdullah
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Post by Abdullah on Jan 30, 2013 6:46:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure. Right now, he's playing a role. It's embarrassing to be made to look bad, but when I was in Lance Storm's school, Lance unintentionally look like a dumb internet smark, while discussing with the class about the Raw the night before. I talked about Jack Swagger being buried, and basically I was told that it was his role. I didn't get the business, and in learning about that, I try to look at guys like Kofi Kingston and Cody Rhodes in a different light. One of my own personal pet peeves is guys getting turns at the World Title. I think there should be a list of the greatest wrestlers never to be World Champion, because you can look back at those who could have been great World Champions, but the reigns were long and well established that they didn't make it to the top. Maybe he could be used in a main event role, but for the foreseeable future, unless they see something different in them, or they see the crowd reacting differently to this person, they'll stay where they belong. I guess I'm biased towards Daniel Bryan in thinking he'll be more then someone like Cody Rhodes and Kofi Kingston, based on his reactions. At this point, Bryan is an upper midcard comedy babyface. He could be thrown into a main event situation, due to his talent, but right now, he has a particular role. It's hard to accept, but pro wrestling is a lot like a movie. A lot of people liked Lando from Star Wars. But he wasn't the star. A lot of people liked Han Solo, but his role wasn't to be the main star. You build a guy like Cody Rhodes up, but it's simply to use him to make someone bigger look good, someone who will draw you your money. John Cena was used as that guy before, but once they got their claws into him, and the idea that he would be the top guy, it was full steam ahead. They built up Brodus Clay, so that he could put over Antonio Cesaro. They built up Antonio Cesaro, so that he could put over Randy Orton. Maybe Brodus and Cesaro will be higher, but they could be the guys that are the ones forever going over. It's very likely a temporary thing, though. Just because he's not being booked favorably now doesn't mean that will always be the case. I remember various posters pretty much declaring that Cesaro would go nowhere because he began with a very shaky push. If a guy like Yoshi or JTG were trotted out to job, I could see the worry - WWE has never really liked them. That's not true with Rhodes.
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