Bret Hart Rules
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Post by Bret Hart Rules on Jan 30, 2013 16:28:48 GMT -5
I hate it. The fact that he won with an elbow drop to defeat someone who held the tile for as long as he did pisses me right off for a start. Mick Foley always maintained that the People's Elbow was the most ridiculous move ever (I'd argue the Worm myself but hey) and yet he wins with it. Big Show hits jumping elbow drops and doesn't win and I think that logic would dictate that that would hurt way more.
But anyway, the OP said take all that out of it so I will. The fact is the Rock isn't that good in my opinion. His interviews and promos scream of cheap pop and they don't sound natural. When I listen to Punk or Dean Ambrose, it sounds so natural even though he is going by what creative has written. Add that to the fact that i dont find him funny and that he isn't that good in the ring and I don't see the appeal any more.
I used to like him before he left for the first time so this isn't like blind hatred or anything but its just the same old crap with him.
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Post by Straight Edge Scrotum on Jan 30, 2013 16:34:56 GMT -5
Yes.
Anything the Rock touches turns to gold. Him taking the belt off Punk allows the WWE to finally put Cena in the role of the underdog, because nobody wants to see him beat the Rock for the title.
Him being a "part time" champ doesn't matter because how many title matches do we really see on RAW anyways? And if he's still champ, then the WWE gets free publicity everywhere he goes.
As for him winning with the elbow, that's just fine too. That elbow has been a lot of the greats, including Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania. It's a legit move, so winning with it isn't a problem whatsoever.
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Post by mjolnir on Jan 30, 2013 16:41:18 GMT -5
No, I'm not happy about it. Disregarding who he beat it for, how much of a waste of a rub it was, who he's feuding with and likely to drop the belt to...
He's a guy that was gone for ten years and has had a handful of matches, and he's for all intents and purposes a special attraction part timer. The Rock should be highlighted when he's used, yes, but he should not be The Guy. He should be, if even put in a title situation, putting somebody else over to further cement them as The Guy. It's baffling to me that they did this and on par with putting the title on Hogan instead of letting Yoko or Bret have it.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jan 30, 2013 17:21:55 GMT -5
Absolutely not. I venomously hate Ryback, but he should have been the guy to finally get the title from Punk. His entire angle basically got shelved so they could put the title on a guy who wrestles twice a year. They did Ryback and his fans (and there are a lot of them) a great disservice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 17:33:05 GMT -5
Yup. Like someone else said, I'm actually excited about what the WWE Champion will be up to on Raw. I was already tired of Punk's reign back at Elimination Chamber. I actually would have preferred for Ryback to knock Punk off, but The Rock is entertaining so it's not bad.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 30, 2013 18:14:25 GMT -5
I've got no beef with Rock being champ. It's the fact that he's probably going to drop it to Cena that makes me upset.
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Post by Marvelously Mediocre on Jan 30, 2013 18:21:00 GMT -5
No. I used to be a big fan of Rock but he ruined himself in my eyes when he returned. From all the crap on the mic to the quality of the matches he had. So no,I'm absolutely not happy with him as champion. Don't get me wrong though,I'm still a fan of the Rock character,just not the one from 2011 to this day. Word for word. Also Ryback has been totally f***ed over in this deal which sucks. |
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Post by Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks on Jan 30, 2013 18:22:37 GMT -5
No. Giving the company's most important title to a guy on a "celebrity appearance" deal is a terrible idea, no matter who he is or how big a star he was in the past.
Were I blissfully unaware of wrestling news on the internet, I might have thought Rock's first return was a good thing, then be disappointed by his inevitable disappearance (or failure to show up at house shows I bought tickets for). Knowing he's working a tiny handful of dates, I can't muster any interest in the guy whatsoever. There are tons of guys on the roster busting their asses who are far more deserving of the reign, and a chance to prove themselves as the next megaface.
There's just no way the short-term nostalgia profits are going to offset the damage caused by their repeated failure to establish new stars.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 18:50:21 GMT -5
I'll go with no. I'm not upset about it by any stretch, but it's indicative of WWE's turn to part-time, nostalgia acts as the ones that matter most, and I'm not into that on a fundamental level.
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Post by joebob27 on Jan 30, 2013 18:53:36 GMT -5
I don't see what the big deal is. He'll be on TV most of the time, and it would be nice if he had an interim program for TV, but I don't think they've done one since Punk/Henry anyway.
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Post by And_5400 on Jan 30, 2013 18:55:25 GMT -5
It's something I wanted to see for a long time. The match was great and I thought he looked in pretty good shape for a guy in his 40s. I don't care if he's a part timer or not simply because no one at the moment is on his level so he's more deserving than everyone else.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 30, 2013 18:58:52 GMT -5
Rock is my all time favorite, but don't like how WWE uses him to s*** all over everyone else.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jan 30, 2013 19:02:14 GMT -5
I hate it. The fact that he won with an elbow drop to defeat someone who held the tile for as long as he did pisses me right off for a start. Mick Foley always maintained that the People's Elbow was the most ridiculous move ever (I'd argue the Worm myself but hey) and yet he wins with it. Big Show hits jumping elbow drops and doesn't win and I think that logic would dictate that that would hurt way more. There has been a lot of hate for the Elbow Drop being used instead of the Rock Bottom, i am just curious why due to him having it as a finisher for most of his career...? It's not like this is the first time he has ever used it to finish someone, to me although Rock Bottom is a better finisher they are both legit in different ways and are an important part of his character/in ring work. It just seems like people are complaining about who the elbow was performed on, and not the move itself (and I say that as a fan of both men). I just don't get why people are surprised and offended about him using the move when it is 50/50 in use with Rock Bottom. It's not the elbow itself, its the elbowpad throw, the showboating and the drama of the move as to why it works. The Rock Bottom is for an out of nowhere, high impact and great looking finisher. They are both used for completely different reasons. |
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Jan 30, 2013 19:18:06 GMT -5
No...for a couple reasons......
Consider the most Likely (IMO) endgame..... Cena as the Champion Post-Mania.
The Rock Returning, winning the title, etc.....did NOT need to happen to have that happen.
Perfect Scenario (In which the scenario is changed slightly, but still gets an endgame where EVERYONE can possibly look good/Be Satisfied) is this
Royal Rumble match between Punk & Rock happens as written...EXCEPT Rock DOESN'T Get his rematch that night. We instead end on a Victorious Punk.
Raw rolls around.....Vince opens the show with a Smug Punk, and then proceeds to STRIP him of the title. We still get the Angry Punk/Rock promo.
Vince then Announces that since they're the two biggest contenders; Rock and Cena will fight for the title at WM. Punk demands to be added to the match because he never LOST the title.
Now instead of a possibly lackluster rehash, we have a slightly better Triple Threat Match. That Way Rock can catch his breath in the match without interrupting the flow too badly, and you can still have Cena leave as Champion.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jan 30, 2013 19:36:33 GMT -5
No. Not at all. For a few reasons (all of which are just my own personal opinions)...
- Like others have mentioned, having a part-time 40-year-old come in and win the title seems wrong. He didn't need to win that title and if they were going to have someone take it from Punk, why not make it Ryback or someone else that's "new"? Hell, I hate Ryback, but at least him winning would be pushing a new guy and not a cheap ploy to temporarily pop ratings/buy rates. Fresh blood winning the Rumble would've been nice as well, but that's a whole other can of worms.
- The way he won was silly. An epic reign ended in such a goofy way.
- Winning it to simply hand it over to Cena in a rehash of last year's WM main event ruins WrestleMania for me. Not only is the outcome very predictable, I have to suffer through a build up for a match that I thought was mediocre at best the first time around. Plus, it's a bit disheartening to know the "order" will be restored at 'Mania and Cena will be champion for the 1,439th time.
- I've always thought of The Rock as being one of the most overrated wrestlers to ever grace the planet. His shtick has ran its course and it makes me dread Raw even more. It's annoying how the WWE is hell-bent on convincing the world that he's the greatest wrestler of all-time. It seems like just yesterday they were doing the same thing with HBK.
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Post by Red Impact on Jan 30, 2013 19:38:02 GMT -5
No. I used to be a big fan of Rock but he ruined himself in my eyes when he returned. From all the crap on the mic to the quality of the matches he had. So no,I'm absolutely not happy with him as champion. Don't get me wrong though,I'm still a fan of the Rock character,just not the one from 2011 to this day. Word for word. Also Ryback has been totally f***ed over in this deal which sucks. Considering Ryback is awful, I have no problem with him not getting rocketed to the top to stay. |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 30, 2013 19:46:06 GMT -5
I'm happy even acknowledging who he beat for the title and who he might be dropping it to  I'd actually like him to hold it past Mania. Unless they make Cena/Rock II and 3 way with Punk, with Punk/Rock II already announced I really don't see that happening. |
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Post by Starshine on Jan 30, 2013 20:19:38 GMT -5
HELL YEAH!
ROCKY! ROCKY! ROCKY!
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Post by elryc on Jan 30, 2013 20:30:14 GMT -5
No. As others have said, he's plainly been gassed very quickly in his matches. Its depressing.
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Post by BK From WV on Jan 30, 2013 20:44:56 GMT -5
No. I'm not a big fan of the Rock to begin with and having a guy who has made only a handful of appearances and 4 matches (6 probably by the time it's over) in 9 years as your top guy annoys the hell out of me. Pretty much sums it up for me as well. Never have liked him. |
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