jetsonic
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Post by jetsonic on Feb 2, 2013 0:37:52 GMT -5
Most reactions I saw to Rock vs Cena were around 2 to 3 stars do you think Rock Cena 2 could be a lot better?
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Post by BigWill on Feb 2, 2013 0:42:25 GMT -5
If the match Rock had against Punk (who's a better worker than Cena, IMO) is anything to go by, Rock/Cena won't be anywhere near 4-5 stars.
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Post by Some Guy on Feb 2, 2013 0:44:03 GMT -5
Can Rock magically fix his cardio by Mania?
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Feb 2, 2013 1:29:48 GMT -5
Who the hell said Rock vs Cena was 2 stars? I had the original at 4 stars, as with Punk vs Jericho on the same show.
I personally expect it to be better mostly because there's more on the line and these two have already had a chance to get a feel for each other. Plus, Rock will have wrestled a few times not long before the match so he should be able to wear off the ring rust a little more this time around.
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Post by memphis25 on Feb 2, 2013 2:49:13 GMT -5
***3/4 is what both Rock/Cena and Punk/Jericho got in the observer, this year will do far better since it will be Rock's 3rd long match in a short period rather than once a year so he should be in far better ring shape with more time dedicated to wrestling this year.
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Post by Fade on Feb 2, 2013 2:56:20 GMT -5
Well, it ain't looking good so far. I don't think I've ever seen Rock in worse ring-shape. Which is weird to see. Cause he's always been on it and so crisp.
Cena's Cena. He's good. But he's got trouble carrying guys in matches who are worse workers and not huge physical threats.
So. Here's hoping whatever build/stipulation/gimmick heightens the performance. Or just add Punk.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 3:33:54 GMT -5
Probably better than Rock / Punk, but still likely to be crap. So, yeah, same as last year's, maybe slightly better if Rock doesn't get injured again. And if WWE learns how to properly pace a show for once so that the ending doesn't feel completely out of nowhere this time.
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Post by mjolnir on Feb 2, 2013 7:37:25 GMT -5
If Rock/Punk is any hint, it'll be on par, or dare I say worse, than last year's offering. For as impressive as The Rock is right now in terms of build, he's basically 2002 Triple H. Amazing, "enhanced" look, crap cardio.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 2, 2013 8:52:01 GMT -5
I think it will suprise people.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Feb 2, 2013 9:01:39 GMT -5
Worse since Rock can't wrestle for 5 minutes without getting exhausted.
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Post by repomark on Feb 2, 2013 9:06:46 GMT -5
It will 4-5 stars. I enjoyed last year's and will enjoy this years (if it is infact going to be one on one). The only thing that might kill it this year is that it seems too obvious that Cena is going to win.
But then, I said that last year.....
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Feb 2, 2013 9:25:54 GMT -5
I think it'll be about the same but I thought the first match was actually pretty damn good.
I do think the whole 'Rock vs. Punk was bad and Punk is a better worker than Cena' explanation doesn't work because sometimes matches just work. Punk worked with Umaga and didn't pull out classics like Cena did. It's not as simple as that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 9:40:24 GMT -5
I thought the first one was great, so if they're able to top that one I'll be a happy camper.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 9:54:13 GMT -5
What majority gave Rock/Cena 2-3 stars? Every major site had it around the 4 star mark and most every fan (including myself) had it about the same. Even Rock/Punk, which got far more negative reviews overall, hasn't been panned to the point (I don't think) that the general consensus is below 3 stars.
Rock/Cena this year I think will be about the same in the ring or slightly better but New York crowds are hotter than Florida crowds so the atmosphere should be even bigger this year which could bump it up a notch more than the wrestling will.
In-ring though, there are a lot of guaranteed crowd pleasing spots they didn't use for whatever reason last year that probably will be this year. AA off the top rope. Rock Bottom through the announce table (let's hope it doesn't flake out on them like it did last Sunday). I was expecting Rock to mock the you can't see me/five knuckle shuffle like Cena did the People's Elbow. And this time will probably have more of a Rock-Austin style finisher fest finish with more of a definitive winner rather than the sudden Rock Bottom last time. There really shouldn't be much of a problem making this one different from the first.
Rock's cardio doesn't worry me too much like it does others. Rock and Cena are two super babyfaces who'll be trading high impact moves from the opening bell. Any tiredness on Rock's part can be hidden by selling the effects of the match like last year. The only reason it was such an issue at the Rumble match is because he couldn't have that epic babyface vs. babyface Wrestlemania style back and forth big move battle against someone who was playing a devious heel so when he was gasping for air 10 minutes in after they had only done some basic stuff it came off less like he was selling a gruelling match and more like he was just tired.
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Post by Bishblast on Feb 2, 2013 10:09:42 GMT -5
I think it will be better than the one from last year, in terms of in ring quality. I think it will end up surprising a lot of people, I am one of the few that really enjoyed last year's match, but of course it wasn't as good as it had been hyped up to be. I have faith... Rock looked considerably better in his match with Punk than he did last year against Rock at Mania. That said, I don't expect a MOTYC.
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Post by Error on Feb 2, 2013 11:18:45 GMT -5
Rock's had far more ring work than people are thinking. He has his own ring which he claimed to use for cardio and WWE last year had Hawkins and Hennig working with him and at least Hennig this year. Yeah there is no crowd there but lack of ring work/matches isn't the reason he's gassed.
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Post by Snaptastic on Feb 2, 2013 11:47:32 GMT -5
It has the potential to be better, but I think it will ultimately end up being worse. First because the crowd reaction will be much the same as 27, in that instead of waiting for Rock to come out...it will be just biding time until Cena wins the title so they can go home (if some haven't by then). Second because neither are ring generals, even if they've both had decent matches in their time. Thirdly, the first match between the two went 33 minutes...but felt quicker and I thought it was at least 3.5 to 4 stars. Rock's had far more ring work than people are thinking. He has his own ring which he claimed to use for cardio and WWE last year had Hawkins and Hennig working with him and at least Hennig this year. Yeah there is no crowd there but lack of ring work/matches isn't the reason he's gassed. He'll never do it (or can't), but it would do him a world of good to work the house show circuit for a month or so.
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Post by kidglov3s on Feb 2, 2013 14:04:42 GMT -5
I think if he drops some muscle he'd be a little better than at the Rumble. I think there's a shot of it being as good as last year or better. I think Cena is a better match for him than Punk, I didn't see the problems with the Rumble match being Rock's conditioning as much as his style not meshing at all with Punks and neither guy finding a way to make things click.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 2, 2013 14:07:23 GMT -5
It will either be the same or worse. Rock's had two big singles matches in the past year, and both times he was blown up after five minutes and it killed the match quality. The guy needs to do some serious cardio and cut back on all the heavy lifting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 14:10:35 GMT -5
Rock's had far more ring work than people are thinking. He has his own ring which he claimed to use for cardio and WWE last year had Hawkins and Hennig working with him and at least Hennig this year. Yeah there is no crowd there but lack of ring work/matches isn't the reason he's gassed. He obviously is getting gassed though, so why? Is it just that he's too muscular to work like "The Rock" anymore?
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