TMNT Mafia Thread 2 (GAME OVER!)

[TOO SWEET]

In that case, do you mind answering the one I asked at the end of the AH section?

Today? As in this Day Phase, without a doubt.
As in RL Today, probably not.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Jun 21, 2013 12:08:35 GMT -5 TOO SWEET said:

Having some trouble figuring out which of the six left are mafia. Since the game isn't over, that means there are only two mafia left, not three. But I do believe this is practically ly-lo.

If we lynch incorrectly or don't lynch at all and the mafia gets a successful night kill, they win.
Our only chance for survival is to have them either fail their kill or correctly lynch a mafia member. Obviously it'd be smarter/more proactive to not just rely on chance, and to go with the lynch attempt.

As for who:

Looking at us six, there are some things that I'm having some difficulty getting past some of my thoughts/issues. Let me know where you stand on my beliefs here.

Mr.B Natural/Orange - Out of everyone left, I feel decently safe saying that one of these two is the mafia godfather. Yami said they were both townies and once it was confirmed that Yami was the cop, these two became pretty safely considered townies. I would think that would make them high mafia targets, but neither of them have been killed yet. The lack of attention paid to these two makes me think that one of them is mafia. By keeping the other alive, it creates a doubt over which one it is and keeps us from focusing on either one.

So B/Orange, can you please present an argument trying to show how you've acted town-like and helped our cause?

Connor Mackenzie - Connor has been playing a ridiculously under the radar game until just this day phase. All the other UTR players were killed off early, yet he has been able to survive until now. Looking at his vote history he has voted often, but the only time it was early on was for Joker, the Serial Killer. I honestly don't know what to make of him at this point.

But I'd like to know why he chose this day phase to vote so early as compared to his usual strategy/method.

Jonathan Michaels Has Returned - He's built his case and he's convinced me. Jono is town in my book. I could be wrong, but he had a lot of clear evidence that established mafia members tried to undercut his claim. Out of all of us, I'd say it'd be the dumbest to go for him.

No real question for you.

Artificial Human #2 (Formerly The Real Slim sMurfy) - I don't have much of a read on AH at all. Anyone else have any sort of opinion or questions for him that might be able to help me (or others, if they're in the same situation) get a bit more of a feel for him.

I want to know out of us 6, which two do you think are mafia?

Me -

Jun 17, 2013 20:32:32 GMT -5 Connor Mackenzie said:

Sloth sticks out like a sore thumb to me as well considering his (and I group "his" into all those who have had the role) one vote was for Magiconz on Day 8. No other votes cast what so ever.

Honestly, it was a damned if I do, damned if I don't by that Day Phase. If I didn't vote for him, I still wouldn't have voted for anyone. If I did, and he flipped town, then I only voted for a townie. If people have questions for me, I'm more than willing to answer. Last day phase in particular I tried my hardest to help town, but I also backed down and admitted being wrong when Jono presented a very strong/believable case.

Anyone have responses to what I said about them or questions for me?

For Jono, I've had my doubts in the past on his roleclaim but as I said last day phase, there's absolutely no evidence to contradict the claims he's made so I don't see him as suspicions in any way. Even with Stinger dead, I find that it's too obvious for him to be mafia based on that. Why would he kill Stinger after all that happened yesterday? That would be the dumbest move and he's not a dumb player.


Connor said he had some sort of role yesterday that he wouldn't go into specifics about. That could be a diversion tactic of some sort because he somehow may have known someone may call him out on his voting patters but that's nothing more than a paranoid theory at this point.

I would like to hear the same things from Orange and B Natural that you asked them as well. As I mentioned earlier, I'm fairly confident that someone in this game isn't who they say/have been said by the cop and that would easily explain a few things however, I'll wait for their answer before actually making any sort of judgement.

As far as I go, I refer you back to the post I made earlier. I cannot speak for how Slim played, all I can tell you is that I've done my best to work for a town win.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

Jun 22, 2013 11:09:29 GMT -5 TOO SWEET said:

In that case, do you mind answering the one I asked at the end of the AH section?

Today? As in this Day Phase, without a doubt.
As in RL Today, probably not.

Yeah, I meant the day phase by today. Not literally today.

[Deleted]

CURRENT VOTE COUNT
Orange (3): Connor Mackenzie, Jonathan Michaels Has Returned, Sloth Spartan #2


NOT VOTING
Artificial Human #2 (Formerly The Real Slim sMurfy)
Mr B Natural: Wyatt Guy
Orange

With 6 of you remaining, 4 votes are needed for a lynch.

The deadline for a lynch is set for Monday, June 24th at 5pm. (EST)

[Jonathan Michaels]

Here's what I think.

It's possible Orange has used the fact that he's not been suspected to his advantage.

We have no way of being sure at this point, all we can do is hope we've made the right decision.

Vote: Orange

[Orange]

Jun 23, 2013 21:10:39 GMT -5 Jonathan Michaels said:

Here's what I think.

It's possible Orange has used the fact that he's not been suspected to his advantage.

We have no way of being sure at this point, all we can do is hope we've made the right decision.

Vote: Orange

If the purpose is to keep the town alive, you'll be doing no favors by voting me out. I've never really been suspected in any Mafia game because I've always been town, so it's not something I'm taking advantage of - I'm just used to it. That might sound cocky, but that's not how I mean it.

Jun 21, 2013 12:08:35 GMT -5 TOO SWEET said:

Mr.B Natural/Orange - Out of everyone left, I feel decently safe saying that one of these two is the mafia godfather. Yami said they were both townies and once it was confirmed that Yami was the cop, these two became pretty safely considered townies. I would think that would make them high mafia targets, but neither of them have been killed yet. The lack of attention paid to these two makes me think that one of them is mafia. By keeping the other alive, it creates a doubt over which one it is and keeps us from focusing on either one.

So B/Orange, can you please present an argument trying to show how you've acted town-like and helped our cause?

Sure. I've been busy IRL during the course of this game (Summer yardwork and the like), but I feel I've done the best I can in helping the Town win this game. Yes, my case against Magiconz didn't go the way I'd hoped, but in a game of chance sometimes you win and sometimes you get burned. You can have a guy put together a case on a whim and end up nailing a high ranking scum member, and you can have a guy carefully craft a case and get burned by the outcome. I happened to fall into the latter category and I'll admit that I was wrong.

As for acting like a Townie, that makes sense considering that's all I've known. I don't know another way to play because I've never played for the other team and I'm not now. I know that doesn't mean a lot coming from a suspect, but it's the best I can do. I'm not going to stand here and say "I'M TOWN! BELIEVE ME! BELIEVE ME! BELIEVE ME!" because that comes across as desperate and suspicious. All I can tell you is that it wouldn't be within the town's best interests to lynch me and that's it.

Other than that, I'm not really sure what I can say. The IRL stuff has killed me in game because I haven't been able to put as much focus on this game as I would've liked. However, I'd question how the lack of attention makes one of us a Mafia member. I can get trying to play under the radar in an attempt to slip to the finish line unnoticed, but I don't feel that's the game I've been playing. I've been contributing when I can, but, as I admitted to, the time I did contribute my most it didn't go the way I hoped it would.

[Connor Mackenzie]

Only a few hours left guys. If there's anything anyone has to add that can help us now would be the time.

[TOO SWEET]

We need a lynch but I'm nowhere near sold on that target. But to be frank, if we don't lynch correctly, we'll lose. So obviously we need to lynch someone.

Vote:Orange

Like I said I'm nowhere near sold on Orange, but the key here is that we have to lynch somebody.

[Mochi Lone Wolf]

I've been preaching not hesitating this late in the game, I might as well practice it. Best case is against him so might as well go with it.


Vote:Orange

[Deleted]

A lynch has been reached! (like an hour ago, but I digress). I'll get a write-up up by 9:30 at the latest.

CURRENT VOTE COUNT
Orange (4): Connor Mackenzie, Jonathan Michaels Has Returned, Sloth Spartan #2, Artificial Human #2


NOT VOTING
Mr B Natural: Wyatt Guy
Orange

With 6 of you remaining, 4 votes are needed for a lynch.

[Orange]

Well, that sucks. Bad move, town, but I understand.

[Deleted]

{As our scene opens, we see Raphael walking through the sewer on his way back to his home. With his head down, he ignores the creepy sounds coming from all around him, chalking it up to the natural sounds of the sewer. A rat runs by his feet and he can't help but think about the fact that with the threat facing our characters, he feels like nothing more than a rat staring directly up at the foot of a giant. He reaches his sewer home and sees that the light is on inside, but no one is supposed to be in there. He pulls out his sai and cautiously steps in, and finds himself looking at the remaining other characters.}

"What's going on here? An intervention for my abuse of sarcasm?"

{He holsters his weapon and steps in closer as he receives glares from most of the group, including the loudmouth boss and his weasely cameraman/reporter, the robotic turtle, and even a familiar villain. Raphael spies the man, and turns his attention to him.}

"And more importantly, what's he doing here? You just let him in here?"

{The loudmouth boss points his finger at the turtle.}

"We trust him more than we trust you."

"What are you talking about?"

"We know you're the one who has been killing us off left and right. You've been at the scene of every crime, and we just can't ignore that evidence any more."

"EVERYONE was at the crime scenes. You call that evidence?"

{The well-known turtle enemy makes his voice heard as he steps out of the corner and into the light.}

"Face it turtle. There's a mountain of evidence piling up at your feet. You're a menace, and it's only a matter of time before you eliminate everyone in this room, if we let you live past the night."

"You're all going insane. I've been on your side this whole time. Time and time again I've done what I had to do to help us get as far as we have, and now you're going to turn your back on me when we're so close."

{The robotic turtle comes forth and speaks to Raphael, in Raph's very own voice... because that's something he can do.}

"Someone in this room is a killer. And right now, it looks like you."

{Suddenly, Raph's brother, the turtle in the purple mask, approaches him and puts a hand on his shell.}

"We've been talking about it a lot tonight, and I didn't want to believe it. But all the evidence points to you. Everything in my heart is telling me that they're wrong... but my head says that they can't be."

"...I can't believe you're saying this. You really think I could kill Leo and Mikey? You really think I'm capable of something like that? My own brothers! And now you want to do to me what happened to them!"

"It was already a hard enough decision, Raph. But when you decide something like this, there's no going back."

"So what? You just get to play judge, jury, and executioner now? You all get to decide if I live or die?"

{The caped turtle enemy steps closer.}

"There isn't a decision to be made, turtle. It's already over for you."

{Raphael grabs his sai in a flash and jumps into fighting position.}

"Well I'm not going down without a fight!"

{But it wasn't long before it was all over for the turtle. He put up a good fight, but it just wasn't enough.}

Orange is dead.

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}He was Raphael - Vanilla Turtle.

It is now Night Phase 10. You have until Thursday to get in your Night Actions.

[Orange]

Token bah post. All I ask is if you've ever enjoyed an actual orange or a particular shade of orange - avenge my death!

See you all in the wrap-up thread.

[Deleted]

{We find ourselves inside the Channel 6 news building, where a crew is hard at work fixing the fire damage from a few nights ago. Heading a little further, we find the loudmouth boss, Burne Thompson sitting at his desk, rubbing his forehead. The man is visibly nervous, realizing that his time could be running out after consecutive mis-fires on kills. He jumps at the smallest noise... darts his eyes around the room... constantly on guard. Suddenly he jets up from his desk and over to the door, making sure it's locked. He heads back to his desk, but as he's in the midst of sitting down, something pounds on the door. Burne sits in silence, his eyes piercing the door. Again, the banging starts, and the boss yells out.}

"Leave me alone!"

{A familiar voice comes back.}

"It's me, boss."

"What do you want?!"

"Just me let in. It's not safe out here!"

{The boss slowly walks over to the door, unlocks it, and opens it a crack to make sure he's not being tricked. Outside the door stands the weasely cameraman, Vernon Fenwick who is standing there, nervously wringing his hands. Burne slings the door open and grabs the cameraman, pulling him into the room and slamming the door.}

"You're going to get us both killed!"

"Look, boss. You're the only one I can trust. We have to get out of this city before they get us too."

"But then who's going to report the news? If I'm gone, Channel 3 is going to kill us in the ratings!"

"Forget the news! If we don't get out of here, we're going to literally be killed, not just in the ratings!"

"...Maybe you're right. One of those other three are a killer... and it's clear that they're not going to stop until they get us too."

{Vernon puts his hand on his bosses' shoulder.}

"Exactly. So let's get the heck out of New York!"

{As the cameraman makes his way back towards the door and opens it, Burne has a realization.}

"Wait a minute.... how do I know that you're not the killer? I'm not going anywhere with you!"

"What? If I were the killer, I would have just killed you already."

"There are workers out there. You could just be taking me somewhere where there aren't any witnesses."

"That's just crazy talk. I'm trying to look out for you boss. You know I always have your back."

{The boss stares down his cameraman and sees the sincerity in his eyes.}

"Alright... let's get out of here."

"Lead the way, boss."

{As Burne Thompson leads the way to the door, suddenly both men come flying back into the room. We focus in on the boss' face as we hear the door slam. The two Channel 6 employees get to their feet and look out at their attacker. As Vernon, the cameraman hides behind his boss for protection, the loudmouth lets out one final yell.}

"You!"

{One big THWACK later, and we had two dead bodies on our hands.}

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}Mr B Natural: Wyatt Fan is dead. He was Burne Thompson - Hated Townie.

and....

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}Sloth Spartan #2 is dead. He was Vernon Fenwick - Town Hider.

It is now Day Phase 11. The deadline for a lynch will be Thursday, July 4th.

[Deleted]

REMAINING PLAYERS
Mochi Lone Wolf
Connor Mackenzie
Jonathan Michaels

With 3 of you remaining, it takes 2 votes for a lynch.

The deadline for a lynch is July 4th.

[TOO SWEET]

Bah. Good luck townies.

[MrBRulzOK]

I'm actually glad I died. This way Mafia can't take me out via a lynch, which given my status would've been much easier for them.

So thanks for that.

Town, avenge me or you're all fired!

[Jonathan Michaels]

Well, then.

This can only mean one thing.

There was only one mafia remaining the whole time.

Now to do research.

Please, AH, Connor, do not vote yet, it would be too easy for a mafia to jump onto the vote and end the game.

[Connor Mackenzie]

Agreed.

But the question I have is why two kills this past night phase?

[Connor Mackenzie]

Oh wait. Brain fart. Long weekend here so I didn't clue in at first. Sloth must have hid behind Mr. B.