Thaal Sinestro
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Dec 28, 2014 8:34:36 GMT -5
I agree with Legion. Marvel made Cyclops the way he is. Every time Cyclops did something the Marvel U made him to be the enemy. They forgave Scarlet witch for her part in the mutant genocide but they can't forgive Cyclops cause he killed one bald man that has died before? They deserve everything he's planning.
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Post by Talent Name on Dec 28, 2014 8:59:16 GMT -5
I actually like what he's done with Cyclops. Cyclops, naturally, has progressed to the stage where he is a mutant terrorist. He's meant to be unlikeable and is now the new Magneto. I'm sure eventually he'll go back to being a hero, but for now, I kinda like this Cyclops. I still don't think Marvel will full reboot. What I could see happening is the last ten years, from 'No More Mutants' on being wiped out, allowing Marvel to re-set the pieces. It would piss me off a treat, because it would mean losing a lot of continuity and development for non-major characters, but Marvel is taking so many random punts with it's main characters, something has to redress that and a soft timey wimey reboot seems the easiest. That is the thing though with DC's New 52 it wasn't even a full reboot, Batgirl being Oracle happened, Jason Todd dying happened, Green Lantern nothing changed it was a continuation the same with Legion of Super Heroes. I could see actually if Marvel's reboot happened from One More Day though
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Dec 28, 2014 9:01:35 GMT -5
Just leave Superior Ironman. First time since the first movie I'm actually enjoying Tony.
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Post by Friday Night SmackSown on Dec 28, 2014 15:08:42 GMT -5
The guy writing Superior Iron Man does have experience writing a jerkass hero. (He was the same person handling the tie-in comics to Injustice)
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 28, 2014 15:11:55 GMT -5
I still don't think Marvel will full reboot. What I could see happening is the last ten years, from 'No More Mutants' on being wiped out, allowing Marvel to re-set the pieces. It would piss me off a treat, because it would mean losing a lot of continuity and development for non-major characters, but Marvel is taking so many random punts with it's main characters, something has to redress that and a soft timey wimey reboot seems the easiest. Yeah, I think the space time continuum that Wolverine and Susan Storm broke is going to kick everyone in the ass into a soft reboot... I actually like what he's done with Cyclops. Cyclops, naturally, has progressed to the stage where he is a mutant terrorist. He's meant to be unlikeable and is now the new Magneto. I'm sure eventually he'll go back to being a hero, but for now, I kinda like this Cyclops. I still don't think Marvel will full reboot. What I could see happening is the last ten years, from 'No More Mutants' on being wiped out, allowing Marvel to re-set the pieces. It would piss me off a treat, because it would mean losing a lot of continuity and development for non-major characters, but Marvel is taking so many random punts with it's main characters, something has to redress that and a soft timey wimey reboot seems the easiest. That is the thing though with DC's New 52 it wasn't even a full reboot, Batgirl being Oracle happened, Jason Todd dying happened, Green Lantern nothing changed it was a continuation the same with Legion of Super Heroes. I could see actually if Marvel's reboot happened from One More Day though No New 52 was a half assed way of doing a hard reboot and a soft reboot at the same time. Where tehy couldn't decide what did and didn't happen. Leading to things like all Batman and Green Lantern stuff happened and nothing else did... and even that was sliced down as time went on... and also lead to oddities like having 4 robins in what was supposed to be 5 years....
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Post by Legion on Dec 28, 2014 16:45:43 GMT -5
That is the thing though with DC's New 52 it wasn't even a full reboot, Batgirl being Oracle happened, Jason Todd dying happened, Green Lantern nothing changed it was a continuation the same with Legion of Super Heroes. I could see actually if Marvel's reboot happened from One More Day though No New 52 was a half assed way of doing a hard reboot and a soft reboot at the same time. Where tehy couldn't decide what did and didn't happen. Leading to things like all Batman and Green Lantern stuff happened and nothing else did... and even that was sliced down as time went on... and also lead to oddities like having 4 robins in what was supposed to be 5 years.... Yeah, was gonna type this, but someone did it for me
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Dec 28, 2014 18:34:09 GMT -5
yeah New 52 was far from the right way to do a reboot. continuity wasn't perfect before but now DC's continuity is a colossal mess. it's why they're already doing a soft reboot again. Deathstroke alone has had his backstory revised 4 times in the last 2 years, all because they eliminated Wolfman/Perez' Teen Titans (seriously WTF DC, that's like Marvel removing Claremont's X-men). nobody talked with anybody and as a result several books contradicted each other and many of those same books were Editorial Mandated to death and couldn't come up with a purpose. I read Stormwatch because I liked the characters but it was infuriating seeing that book basically being written as the writers were going on because DC kept changing their minds about things.and that's not even getting into the buttf***ing the likes of Wally West, the Justice Society of America and especially Teen Titans went through.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 28, 2014 20:29:42 GMT -5
The four Robins in 5 years thing still cracks me up. New 52 Batman is awful as a mentor.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 21:11:02 GMT -5
I just finished the third arc of TMNT. I love this damn series. I'm doing my best to not burn through the whole thing. I want to get up to date with it, but I don't want it to run out of "new" material from it either.
While waiting for other comics, I also finally finished Book 4 of Y: The Last Man. I really need to read the rest of it. That is some great stuff, as well.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 28, 2014 21:20:10 GMT -5
If not for Spider Verse might be done with comics again. Axis just turn me off with Marvel Except for a few Marvel titles (Amazing Spider-Man, Daredevil, Silver Surfer, Rocket Raccoon) and Snyder's Batman, everything I'm reading these days is from Image Comics. While Marvel and DC just hop between events and marketing gimmicks, Image just lets great writers and artists tell their own tales.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 21:22:09 GMT -5
If not for Spider Verse might be done with comics again. Axis just turn me off with Marvel Except for a few Marvel titles (Amazing Spider-Man, Daredevil, Silver Surfer, Rocket Raccoon) and Snyder's Batman, everything I'm reading these days is from Image Comics. While Marvel and DC just hop between events and marketing gimmicks, Image just lets great writers and artists tell their own tales. I dropped a lot from the main two the past few months and have been focusing more on the independent companies. I'm finding this way of reading much more enjoyable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 22:33:17 GMT -5
I just finished the third arc of TMNT. I love this damn series. I'm doing my best to not burn through the whole thing. I want to get up to date with it, but I don't want it to run out of "new" material from it either. While waiting for other comics, I also finally finished Book 4 of Y: The Last Man. I really need to read the rest of it. That is some great stuff, as well. It gets a little iffy for me during "Krang War" (still good, just not as good as the rest) but gets REAL good starting with CityFall. The stuff they're doing right now with the Mutanimals is incredibly fun. Outside of TMNT, 99% of my stuff comes through Image as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 22:39:04 GMT -5
I just finished the third arc of TMNT. I love this damn series. I'm doing my best to not burn through the whole thing. I want to get up to date with it, but I don't want it to run out of "new" material from it either. While waiting for other comics, I also finally finished Book 4 of Y: The Last Man. I really need to read the rest of it. That is some great stuff, as well. It gets a little iffy for me during "Krang War" (still good, just not as good as the rest) but gets REAL good starting with CityFall. The stuff they're doing right now with the Mutanimals is incredibly fun. Outside of TMNT, 99% of my stuff comes through Image as well. I'm excited for City Fall. I've seen nothing but high praise for it. Do you read the Micros and side series? I have been and, while not necessary to read, I feel they really help with the main story.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 22:54:54 GMT -5
It gets a little iffy for me during "Krang War" (still good, just not as good as the rest) but gets REAL good starting with CityFall. The stuff they're doing right now with the Mutanimals is incredibly fun. Outside of TMNT, 99% of my stuff comes through Image as well. I'm excited for City Fall. I've seen nothing but high praise for it. Do you read the Micros and side series? I have been and, while not necessary to read, I feel they really help with the main story. Yeah, i read most of them. The villains micros were my faves. The Krang one was pretty cool.
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Post by Friday Night SmackSown on Dec 29, 2014 0:02:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 12:38:11 GMT -5
I just finished the third arc of TMNT. I love this damn series. I'm doing my best to not burn through the whole thing. I want to get up to date with it, but I don't want it to run out of "new" material from it either. While waiting for other comics, I also finally finished Book 4 of Y: The Last Man. I really need to read the rest of it. That is some great stuff, as well. It gets a little iffy for me during "Krang War" (still good, just not as good as the rest) but gets REAL good starting with CityFall. The stuff they're doing right now with the Mutanimals is incredibly fun. Heh. Krang War (as well as the Baxter & Fugitoid Micro issues, and the Utrom Empire mini) is the only thing I've read so far, and I quite liked it. I plan on getting more of the Krang-related stuff that's happening now. Although I've heard about the Mutanimal stuff and liking how that's developing...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 12:40:51 GMT -5
I agree with Legion. Marvel made Cyclops the way he is. Every time Cyclops did something the Marvel U made him to be the enemy. They forgave Scarlet witch for her part in the mutant genocide but they can't forgive Cyclops cause he killed one bald man that has died before? They deserve everything he's planning. Think of it this way: Professor X has been considered the Martin Luther King of the Marvel Universe. Cyclops was his protege. He later disowned him, and then killed MLK. ............sure, forgiving Scarlet Witch is weird (she has/had mental issues - I guess that's enough?) but who the hell should be forgiving him??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 12:46:01 GMT -5
It gets a little iffy for me during "Krang War" (still good, just not as good as the rest) but gets REAL good starting with CityFall. The stuff they're doing right now with the Mutanimals is incredibly fun. Heh. Krang War (as well as the Baxter & Fugitoid Micro issues, and the Utrom Empire mini) is the only thing I've read so far, and I quite liked it. I plan on getting more of the Krang-related stuff that's happening now. Although I've heard about the Mutanimal stuff and liking how that's developing... I'm pretty psyched for the Mutanimals miniseries they're coming out with. I'd also recommend the Krang micro issue if that's your thing. REALLY cool take on Gen Krang's origins.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 29, 2014 12:47:07 GMT -5
I agree with Legion. Marvel made Cyclops the way he is. Every time Cyclops did something the Marvel U made him to be the enemy. They forgave Scarlet witch for her part in the mutant genocide but they can't forgive Cyclops cause he killed one bald man that has died before? They deserve everything he's planning. Think of it this way: Professor X has been considered the Martin Luther King of the Marvel Universe. Cyclops was his protege. He later disowned him, and then killed MLK. ............sure, forgiving Scarlet Witch is weird (she has/had mental issues - I guess that's enough?) but who the hell should be forgiving him?? Because if has/had mental issues is enough... having a super powerful alien being in your head should count as an excuse too?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 15:17:49 GMT -5
Think of it this way: Professor X has been considered the Martin Luther King of the Marvel Universe. Cyclops was his protege. He later disowned him, and then killed MLK. ............sure, forgiving Scarlet Witch is weird (she has/had mental issues - I guess that's enough?) but who the hell should be forgiving him?? Because if has/had mental issues is enough... having a super powerful alien being in your head should count as an excuse too? But Cyclops is an asshole jerk. That is where the argument on my end will (quickly) degenerate into, so why not just cut my losses and go right there off the bat? (He's been on a dark unpleasant road long before AvX. Booting Chuck out several years back was going to let to somewhere bad between the 2 anyway.)
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