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Post by Friday Night SmackSown on Jan 20, 2015 16:19:56 GMT -5
So hopefully Marvel at least tells all the writers what's up with this and they stick with what happened and what didn't... unlike how DC did... Though I have a feeling it's going to become almost identical to the Marvel Cinematic Universe...Which is kinda ironic, given that they denied making their "main universe" like the MCU, despite things like introducing a Nick Fury who resembles Samuel L. Jackson, retconning Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's heritage, changing S.H.I.E.L.D.'s acronym to match the MCU S.H.I.E.L.D., making Hawkeye wear an outfit that sort-of resembles his movie look, introducing Coulson and other characters from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., etc.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 20, 2015 17:40:40 GMT -5
So hopefully Marvel at least tells all the writers what's up with this and they stick with what happened and what didn't... unlike how DC did... Though I have a feeling it's going to become almost identical to the Marvel Cinematic Universe... They've finally admitted that the movies are affecting stuff. www.cinemablend.com/new/Marvel-Publisher-Admits-Current-Movies-Affecting-Stories-Comic-Books-69275.htmlNot that it wasn't obvious. These kinda reboots and things are what finally made me throw up my hands and give up on regular superhero books. I'll read the hell out of back issues, standalone series/trades, and creator owned stuff, but as far as Marvel/DC proper, sadly, I'm done.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 17:47:12 GMT -5
I think I'm going to try the current Days of Deception story that started in October. It seems to cross over into both books (Transformers and Transformers More Than Meets the Eye). I'm going to grab them and see if I like it. I can't stress enough how great the IDW Transformers comics are. IT has a very G1 feel and is mostly based on that continuity, but they throw in basically anything cool from other versions of Transformers as well as coming up with new concepts that make you wish they were always part of the franchise. The current More Than Meets The Eye series in my opinion is without a doubt the best comic being published today. At any given time, I have about 20 series I'm following, but this is the only book that I'm actually excited about that makes my day when a new issue comes out and puts me in a better mood. It's sheer brilliance. However, I strongly recommend reading the whole IDW Transformers in proper continuity reading order. There's a reading order list on its Wikipedia page that you can use as a guide. It will seem daunting at first, but while there is some crap in there, most of it is awesome and you will probably tear through it pretty quickly. It also makes you appreciate what's happening in the current books a lot more too. You can just jump in post-Chaos and read good books though, but I can't recommend reading at all enough. You also mentioned that you were feeling nostalgic for 80's stuff in general, so I also recommend doing the exact same thing with IDWs TMNT stuff. Excellent series. As for their G.I. Joe stuff, most of the reboot has been crap, but the stuff written by Mike Costa is amazing and some of the best Joe stories ever told. He also writes them in such a way that you don't have to read the other reboot stuff to follow or enjoy it. In fact, the other reboot stuff is so bad it's almost detrimental to ones enjoyment of the Costa stuff. This is also kind of ironic because the Costa written Transformers stuff is the worst of that series (but you should read it anyway for important continuity stuff). There's also Larry Hamas continuation of the original Joe comic, but I only recommend it if you were a hardcore fanatic of the book back in the day and read every issue of it. There's also DC's He-Man stuff which is also very good. Awesome. Thank you. I jumped on TMNT last month. Started from the beginning and I am LOVING it!
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Post by revolver86 on Jan 20, 2015 18:26:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I haven't been regularly reading comics for a few years now because a)couldn't afford it and b)all the events and reboots were wearing me out. Half the reason I became such a huge fan of DC was stuff like The Flash and JSA, that played on the universe's deep history, that was all dead after the new 52. And all the wacky stuff I heard about what Marvel's been doing the past few years makes me not surprised they're doing the same thing. What's the point of doing anything interesting if you're gonna reboot it later? Ugh.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 18:30:13 GMT -5
I've been dropping more and more from Marvel and DC and reading more and more from Image, Valiant, and IDW.
I will wait and see what Marvel does, but...I don't know, man. Like revolver, I'm getting worn out with things restarting so much.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Jan 20, 2015 18:55:32 GMT -5
With the announcement that Deadpool's ending (and probably for good since Fox has his movie rights) I think I might be done with the Big Two too. I don't really care since I got Afterlife with Archie and East of West to keep me busy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 19:09:28 GMT -5
Kurtis Wiebe (Rat Queens, Peter Panzerfaust, Green Wake) announced what he's calling "my sci-fi spiritual successor to Green Wake" with PISCES. Art by Johnnie Xmas. Wiebe is probably my favorite writers in the past 4-5 years and Green Wake was such a powerful book so I'm really jazzed to see this. plus a lot more cool stuff for april from Image: www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=58606
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 23:32:33 GMT -5
Stuff like Secret Wars and the New 52 are the reason I don't read many Marvel and Dc books anymore. Once in a while I find a fun gem like Superior Foes, Harley Quinn, and the current She-Hulk book, but for the most part the comics have just turned into stories about continuity itself instead of the adventures and private life of a particular hero or team.
And for the record, I'm all for Marvel and DC rebooting their universes and starting over, people can still go back and read the old stuff if that's what they like. The problem is that instead of restarting the books to make them as accessible as possible to new readers and a wider audience, they want to do soft reboots where some stuff happened and some stuff didn't, and have huge crossovers and stuff all the time, which just makes things even more off putting to a lot of people.
I really wish I could simply read the exploits of Superman being Superman, Batman being Batman, etc. but they don't seem to want to give us that. That's why the Marvel films are so appealing to me, they are a streamlined version accessible to a wider audience that you don't have to spend years researching and catching up on. You can get up to speed pretty quickly without everything being a confusing mess. It's also the reason I read mostly Image Comics these days, I can follow a single series by a single creative team that actually ends when they run out of stories or reach a natural conclusion.
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Post by Manute Bol on Jan 21, 2015 0:06:52 GMT -5
Can you recommend me a Harley Quinn TPB?
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Post by MasonK565 on Jan 21, 2015 2:28:20 GMT -5
....I still read Batman comics And I am so excited for the new Batman and Robin. AHGHGGHGHHHHH After work and classes I am hoping to pick me up a copy.
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Post by lockedontarget on Jan 21, 2015 3:23:34 GMT -5
This is not a reboot.
It's a status quo change.
But it's not a reboot.
They're not throwing out or changing old stories.
Just jamming all the alt universes together in one place to tell some sort of crazy story about it.
People need to stop calling this a reboot. The characters and their stories continue on. Now they'll have to deal with the new status quo of Battleworld is all. Which is admittedly a HUGE shakeup of the status quo but functional speaking it's just something like the Decimation or the Dark Reign but on a bigger scale.
And honestly, guys, over the last couple years or so of Marvel has been really, really, REALLY good. Like the vast majority of their output has been quality. They have what might be their greatest collected stable of writers EVER. This event specifically is the brainchild of Hickman who is one of the best writers in comics and is writing what is arguably the best Avengers run of all time.
Marvel has earned the benefit of the doubt. They care about what they are doing, and about giving their writers a good platform. They have a plan, and it's very clear this isn't the editorial mess that the New 52 was. Give it a chance. I'm not crazy about the idea myself, but these are writers that deserve some trust.
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Post by lockedontarget on Jan 21, 2015 3:26:29 GMT -5
So hopefully Marvel at least tells all the writers what's up with this and they stick with what happened and what didn't... unlike how DC did... Though I have a feeling it's going to become almost identical to the Marvel Cinematic Universe... I don't have the quote handy right now but someone from Marvel did say today that all the writers have known about this for a good while and were given the space to prepare for it.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 21, 2015 7:11:30 GMT -5
my gut instinct is to be pissed off because of what a mess the new 52 was. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and see what actually happens before I get too pissed off, though. if Rob Liefeld was right and they really do write out the X-men/Fantastic Four/Deadpool just out of spite they can guarantee themselves no more of my money though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 7:59:13 GMT -5
my gut instinct is to be pissed off because of what a mess the new 52 was. My gut instinct is to not care, because the New 52 got me use to that, but also because Marvel seems to be filled with a lot of prickish people. Also, as New 52 DC is teaching us, eventually they're gonna go back to something of old, as Convergence seems to be proving...
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 21, 2015 10:29:59 GMT -5
Milestone Comics is back!
I'm so happy. My favorite imprint. Even more than Vertigo.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 21, 2015 10:34:35 GMT -5
my gut instinct is to be pissed off because of what a mess the new 52 was. I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and see what actually happens before I get too pissed off, though. if Rob Liefeld was right and they really do write out the X-men/Fantastic Four/Deadpool just out of spite they can guarantee themselves no more of my money though. I was thinking that but would they want to completely want to ditch popular characters like DP out of spite? (well with how petty they've been possibly... but still)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2015 12:44:20 GMT -5
Can you recommend me a Harley Quinn TPB? I don't know the names as I buy singles issues digitally and read them on my iPad, but I started at the beginning of the Amanda Connor and Jimmy Palmiotti run that is currently going. It's a fun book that you can easily enjoy without it getting caught up in crossovers and stuff. And it's pretty hilarious if you have a warped sense of humor.
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Post by lockedontarget on Jan 21, 2015 15:39:09 GMT -5
They are not going to get rid of the X-Men and Fantastic Four.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 21, 2015 15:44:42 GMT -5
They kinda did with the FF they cancelled the series and weren't allowing people to use the characters.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jan 21, 2015 16:19:13 GMT -5
ASM 13 {Spoiler} The issue opens on Loomworld where Solus is listening to his children give excuses. Be sure to read Scarlet Spiders first as this gives todays #3 issue away! We find out the cloning facility was destroyed by the spider clones.
Solus confirms with the Weaver that everything is going to plan and the Other and Bride will "come to us" since they have the Scion. He then says the plan is to kill all the Spider-Men...wait how will you eat?
Cut to Earth 3145 where we left off with Uncle Ben and the spiders hiding in an Ezekiel bunker.
He tells his story, about how he went to the lab with Peter and took the day off. He became spider-man and peter made him a suit. The "Emerald Elf" killed his wife and nephew. He quit and a man named Sims shows up and tells him about Morlun. He's been hiding in the bunker ever since.
Superior Spider-Man calls him a coward and the world is a cinder due to his hiding. Turns out Doctor Octopus is the reason the world is destroyed.
Spider-Man India has a moment of being sad as he's sure Peter is the real Spider-Man and they are all Expendable. Spider-Man UK tells him that's not true and gives him hope.
Superior then realizes Peter is from the future not the past, which means he lost! This is due to Peter knowing Anna Maria. One of the spiders, Anya, can read the scrolls and realizes the Inheritors can win if they kill the Scion, Bride and Other. Superior is aware the Scion is Benjy, the Bride is Silk and the Other is Kaine. They all realize Silk is gone, before she can tell them via teleporter she's on loomworld a pirate breaks her teleporter. Nuts.
Over on Earth 802 Kaine and Ultimate Spider Woman tell us Ben Reilly killed himself to take out the cloning facility. Sad. He heads to Loomworld for revenge. Great now they're all on Loomworld! He takes on the Inheritors as a giant spider monster thing and takes out Solus. Sweet. The others rip off his arms and are going to use his blood to do the ritual.
Meanwhile Silk, Spider Gwen and Spider Woman are attacked by some Inheritors. They say they only want the Bride, the rest can die.
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