Yami Daimao
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Post by Yami Daimao on Oct 1, 2013 15:46:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 16:41:44 GMT -5
I like that Breaking Bad, more than anything, is a show about fear.
The finale really played around with those elements in that Walt always feared A) being obsolete or not relevant (which is why he went back to put the ultimatum down to his old partners) B) not being a provider to his family C) dying of cancer.
What happened was he didn't just overcome that fear, he used it as a weapon on other people. It wasn't enough that he no longer be afraid, he needed to be feared. Like a drug, he felt that fear from other people and became addicted to it.
To me though, Jesse's story is the opposite. As a low-level junkie he didn't really fear anything, it was only after he met Walt that he truly experienced many different types of REAL fear and realized he's not a hard case at all.
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JoDaNa1281
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Oct 1, 2013 18:30:28 GMT -5
I just watched it a 2nd time & my opinion hasn't changed, just a fantastic & fitting ending to the best show on TV. Everyone that deserved to die got got & the people's lives that Walt's destroyed, he tried to fix them, as good as he could in that short of a time. He was obviously never gonna be fully redeemed for all the terrible things he did, but he at least tried to do right by them a little, by making sure his family got his money(even if he did have to put the fear of God in the Schwartz's, with help from Badger & Skinny Pete in nice cameos), giving Skyler the location to Hank & Gomie's burial site, killing Lydia, Todd, Uncle Jack & the rest of the Aryan's & freeing Jesse(even if that wasn't his original intent). Everything was spot on in this episode, the acting, the writing & directing, the choreography, it was a truly great ending to the Breaking Bad saga & easily one of the best series finales I've ever seen, cementing it's place on the pantheon of the greatest tv dramas ever.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Oct 1, 2013 19:05:49 GMT -5
While it's not the 10/10 rating that "Ozymandias" got on the site, "Felina", so far, has got a 9.9/10 rating on imdb.com from over 20,000 users. Also, Nielson Holdings rankings established that "Felina" was the most discussed episode on Twitter of any show on tv for that week.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Oct 2, 2013 0:56:29 GMT -5
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kdawg
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Post by kdawg on Oct 2, 2013 1:43:17 GMT -5
Loved the finale!
Just one question about Walt's/Nazi relationship. Walt used Todd's Uncle/Nazi connection and paid them for a few various jobs. He paid them to take out Jessee, which he called off, then they show up anyways in the desert and we all know how that turned out. But why do the Nazi's suddenly go from working with/for Walt to taking all of his money barrels (except for one),and in the finale want to suddenly kill Walt?? Am I not remembering a big plot point or something here? I know Walt wanted revenge on them for what they did but why did the Nazis turn on him and want to steal his money and kill him?
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EyeofTyr
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Post by EyeofTyr on Oct 2, 2013 1:49:21 GMT -5
Greed.
Walt no longer had any real power outside of his money by the point in the desert. And, they now knew where all of it was, so they decided to take the majority of it.
After capturing Pinkman, they had what they needed to essentially replace him and have their own empire in place, living like a hog in mud.
With Walt returning, it made them paranoid. If he was either going to try something stupid, like he did. Or, the more likely scenario and worse of the two, the cops found him and he ended up ratting them out to save his own butt.
I suppose there's a third scenario too, that he could've always tried to start cooking again and that would've put him in direction competition with them too. And, as they put over, while Pinkman was better than Todd, Jesse still didn't hit the numbers Walt did. He was close, but not quite. So, not only would he be competing with them, it'd be a better product too.
He became a liability any way you slice it, so they wanted to take care of him.
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Post by y4j1981 on Oct 2, 2013 2:02:39 GMT -5
Greed. Walt no longer had any real power outside of his money by the point in the desert. And, they now knew where all of it was, so they decided to take the majority of it. After capturing Pinkman, they had what they needed to essentially replace him and have their own empire in place, living like a hog in mud. With Walt returning, it made them paranoid. If he was either going to try something stupid, like he did. Or, the more likely scenario and worse of the two, the cops found him and he ended up ratting them out to save his own butt. I suppose there's a third scenario too, that he could've always tried to start cooking again and that would've put him in direction competition with them too. And, as they put over, while Pinkman was better than Todd, Jesse still didn't hit the numbers Walt did. He was close, but not quite. So, not only would he be competing with them, it'd be a better product too. He became a liability any way you slice it, so they wanted to take care of him. also wasnt Lydia the one who wanted the Nazi's to kill Walter to get him out of the way. Thats what her call at the end was "Is it done?"
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EyeofTyr
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Post by EyeofTyr on Oct 2, 2013 2:13:27 GMT -5
Yeah, that too.
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Post by 543Y2J on Oct 2, 2013 8:56:09 GMT -5
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Post by y4j1981 on Oct 2, 2013 10:48:49 GMT -5
Huffingtonpost looks at companies trying to leech off the Breaking Bad finale on Twitter
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Post by Shy Guy on Oct 2, 2013 12:30:47 GMT -5
if you have the chance, check out norm mcdonald's recent twitter rant on the finale.
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Post by Rican on Oct 2, 2013 12:39:22 GMT -5
if you have the chance, check out norm mcdonald's recent twitter rant on the finale. I don't think it was Gilligan's intention, but I kind of like the theory that Walt died in the car in New Hampshire and the rest of the episode was him imagining it. It was all a little too perfect.
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Post by The Ichi on Oct 2, 2013 12:56:05 GMT -5
When are you guys gonna watch the whole series again?
I'm going to try to hold off for a bit, so it's all fresh again. This show will have infinite replay value though. Legitimately the best show I've watched from start to finish.
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Post by stealthamo on Oct 2, 2013 13:28:20 GMT -5
When are you guys gonna watch the whole series again? I'm going to try to hold off for a bit, so it's all fresh again. This show will have infinite replay value though. Legitimately the best show I've watched from start to finish. I'll probably wait until Netflix adds the final eight episodes, then I'll probably marathon it. After all the hype with the finale, it'll probably be a while before I watch it again.
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Post by simplydurhamcalling on Oct 2, 2013 13:31:40 GMT -5
I'm already up to the beginning of Series 4 again with my girlfriend who's watching it for the first time.
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Tarik Dee
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Post by Tarik Dee on Oct 2, 2013 13:46:49 GMT -5
if you have the chance, check out norm mcdonald's recent twitter rant on the finale. Wow, talk about grasping for straws.
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Post by Talent Name on Oct 2, 2013 13:55:02 GMT -5
There was something on buzzfeed about references to past episodes, I noticed one they missed and I told my friend about it and she agreed. So lets what you guys can think of what were some references to past episodes in the finale please use the spoiler tag just in case
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Post by Lardlad on Oct 2, 2013 14:43:45 GMT -5
The series is OVER.
Why is there still a need for spoiler tags???
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Post by MGH on Oct 2, 2013 14:54:18 GMT -5
The series is OVER. Why is there still a need for spoiler tags??? There isn't. Everyone can stop using them now. I can't bring myself to delete the finale from my DVR, despite the fact that there are 100 places I could watch it if I wanted to.
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