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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 19, 2013 0:41:28 GMT -5
The best thing in the match was Bryan going for the third corner dropkick and Cena DESTROYING him with the lariat. Awesome match, and they managed to give Bryan the biggest win anyone can get in WWE, while setting up an entire new story arc and giving Bryan new obstacles tp overcome. I disagree with most poeple about Orton, he's fantastic and I'm excited to see how he acts as a heel. I don't see him keeping the same old Viper routine. Overall I think the combination of match quality and storyline implications it was one of the best WWE title matches ever. How do they ditch the Viper character? Kayfabe wise, it's not a gimmick that he does to entertain the fans. He can't just say, I'm done flailing around like a dumbass for you people. He does all that spazzing out and pounding his fists because he's mentally unstable.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Aug 19, 2013 0:45:23 GMT -5
Except, as people often forget, it was proven Orton isn't mentally unstable in his storyline with HHH and the McMahons. It was some BS excuse he was throwing around to be a sadistic asshole.
All you have to do is do what they did when they introduced the Viper character, evolve the character. The Viper persona was taking certain traits of his already established character and highlighting them. All you have to do is make a logical progression of certain traits and down play certain ones that were key with the Viper character.
Boom, Orton's gimmick is brand new once again.
And, they have an easy out with it, with him seemingly making up with HHH and him becoming potentially a corporate champion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 0:47:34 GMT -5
This could be perfect. Really perfect. Daniel Bryan fighting the HHH/McMahon/Orton/Maddox empire. Have him chase the title but getting screwed over by them or some bullshit DQ ending or getting really screwed over next PPV. Have him lose his privilege that he can't have a title shot as long Orton is champ right after. Have the Superfriends of Daniel Bryan/Punk/Cena and two other faces vs. HHH/Orton/Lesnar/Curtis Axel and a other heel at survivor series. Have DB beat HHH at TLC. Have DB win The Rumble. Have Cena win the title at EC. Have an epic Cena vs. Bryan match 2 at WM30 where DB is chasing the title and hoping to prove his win over Cena wasn't a fluke while Cena is reminding DB he only won because of his elbow injury and thinks he can't beat him again and how determined he is not to lose a second time. DB wins. Cena heel turn after?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 19, 2013 1:00:36 GMT -5
Talked to my 7 year old niece about the show.
She was over the moon that Orton cashed in. "I don't like Daniel Bryan. He was mean to Cena after Cena picked him and gave him a present. I'm glad he got beat up"
So there's a kid's reaction to the events.
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Aug 19, 2013 1:02:55 GMT -5
Talked to my 7 year old niece about the show. She was over the moon that Orton cashed in. "I don't like Daniel Bryan. He was mean to Cena after Cena picked him and gave him a present. I'm glad he got beat up" So there's a kid's reaction to the events. Daniel Bryan...Is poopy.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 19, 2013 1:04:32 GMT -5
Talked to my 7 year old niece about the show. She was over the moon that Orton cashed in. "I don't like Daniel Bryan. He was mean to Cena after Cena picked him and gave him a present. I'm glad he got beat up" So there's a kid's reaction to the events. Daniel Bryan...Is poopy. Pretty much. She still doesn't like Punk because of the New Nexus Cena feud. Grudges like crazy.
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Aug 19, 2013 1:07:15 GMT -5
Pretty much. She still doesn't like Punk because of the New Nexus Cena feud. Grudges like crazy. We were all like that once, So its cool.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 19, 2013 1:10:27 GMT -5
Pretty much. She still doesn't like Punk because of the New Nexus Cena feud. Grudges like crazy. We were all like that once, So its cool. Oh yeah, totally reminds me of my days as a Stone Cold mark. Hell, I STILL have reservations about The Rock at times because of that feud. Screw that guy, Austin rules.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Aug 19, 2013 1:10:36 GMT -5
I'd be fine with Orton putting Cena out tomorrow, so that Cena comes back to feud with Orton over the title and eventually they square off at WrestleMania in the main event for the belt. Meanwhile, We build Bryan along the way and give the fans Bryan/Punk at Mania. Then they're still free to do Brock -v- Taker/Rock at Mania, too. Granted, WrestleMania is 8 months from now and a lot can change, but after tonight, I just can't see Bryan in anything but the WWE title program. What would even prompt Bryan & Punk to wrestle at Mania? "Hey' we're both good workers and the internet likes us a lot. Let's have a five star match because INTERNET." If Bryan's not in the title match, maybe a special grudge match with Triple H or a title-less Orton. As far as Cena/Orton for the belt at Mania - it should've happened YEARS ago. But, at least to me, that ship has sailed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 1:11:34 GMT -5
Incidentally, in all the talk about the match, I haven't seen nearly enough love for the slap fight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 1:12:05 GMT -5
I didn't have that kind of loyalty. Bret Hart was my favorite wrestler for 4 years, and I turned on him for Austin at the drop of a hat. Bret was right about us Americans.
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Post by Brooklynpunk97 on Aug 19, 2013 1:15:57 GMT -5
I'd be fine with Orton putting Cena out tomorrow, so that Cena comes back to feud with Orton over the title and eventually they square off at WrestleMania in the main event for the belt. Meanwhile, We build Bryan along the way and give the fans Bryan/Punk at Mania. Then they're still free to do Brock -v- Taker/Rock at Mania, too. No. Please god no.
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Post by nate5054 on Aug 19, 2013 1:36:16 GMT -5
I could dig this finish if it weren't Orton holding the strap.
Oh well, the HHH part is a tad intriguing at least as of now to me.
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Post by nate5054 on Aug 19, 2013 1:37:23 GMT -5
Screw the haters, Cooperate Champ Randy sounds entertaining to me. I must admit, and I guess I didn't need much swaying, but if this happens I can dig it.
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Aug 19, 2013 1:39:51 GMT -5
I just love that Bryan beat Cena with a Boma Ye.
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Post by crowwreak was WRONG on Aug 19, 2013 1:45:08 GMT -5
I just love that Bryan beat Cena with a Boma Ye. It was a Busaiku, not a Boma Ye
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Post by Chuckie Finster on Aug 19, 2013 1:52:06 GMT -5
I just love that Bryan beat Cena with a Boma Ye. It was a Busaiku, not a Boma Ye It can be both.
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Post by Chip on Aug 19, 2013 1:56:30 GMT -5
I don't mind that Hunter turned, I don't even mind that Orton cashed in, I just hate that Bryan had a minute long reign. I f***ing hate short reigns.
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Post by Boozeman on Aug 19, 2013 2:14:26 GMT -5
Ahh.. my fellow FAN posters -- so young, so naive.
It's been said, but here's a reminder:
THIS STORYLINE WILL NOT END WELL FOR ANYONE BUT TRIPLE H.
2011 is why. Everything I'm reading about Daniel Bryan in this thread was being said about CM Punk. "Oh man, this is gonna be great, he's white hot right now and they're really going to 'make him' by putting him over Triple H AND Kevin Nash!"
Of course, the result of that was that the short-order cook jobbed to Triple H, and then never even got to face Nash! A complete waste that undoubtedly slowed Punk's momentum.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and history tells us that Daniel Bryan beating both HHH and Orton on a triumphant march toward the WWE Championship just ain't gonna happen.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Aug 19, 2013 2:24:56 GMT -5
Cena's not expected to be out for very long, so the inevitable Orton/Cena feud is probably around the corner rather than saved for WM. He'll probably miss a few months, maybe both October ppvs. But of course we have to wait and see what exactly is wrong with his elbow. Might be worse than they think.
Bryan/Orton is obviously at NoC. Gotta figure they'd do one more at/in Hell in the Cell. After that, maybe we'll get Bryan/HHH at that new PPV, Battleground? And come Survivor Series, maybe we'll get the Cena/Orton feud out of the way leading to RR '14. Cena wins, Bryan wins the Rumble, Cena/Bryan at WM30 in the undercard title match so Nipple H can borrow another main event against Rock or someone.
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