Rave
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Post by Rave on Aug 19, 2013 13:22:25 GMT -5
As long as the focus isn't on Trips and Bryan doesn't get inexplicably dropped down the card like Dolph Ziggler did, I think it'll turn out at least somewhat decent. However, right now, my feeling is that it's less "That damn Orton stole the title after the biggest match of Bryan's career!" and more "That dastardly Triple H! Look what he did! Oh, and someone else won the title afterward, but TRIPLE H!" Part of that is that I have absolutely no faith in WWE Creative not to screw things up, and part of that is that I just want all the McMahons far, far away from everything going on.
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Post by kingbookermark on Aug 19, 2013 13:25:19 GMT -5
I HATE RANDY ORTON AND TRIPLE H I HOPE THEY LOSE HOW CAN THEY DO THAT TO BRYAN Pro wrestling. Daniel Bryan got a hell of a moment, beat the top star clean, and can say that he was, for an instant, a champion. He was a star tonight and gets a main event feud against the #2 guy in Randy Orton. I ain't mad. I'm just booing the heels. Definitely, good television.
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Post by corndog on Aug 19, 2013 13:29:17 GMT -5
The main problem is not with what happened but how, Bryan should have kicked out and then got RKO'ed or punted for the win or HHH should have done a very fast count, having Daniel Bryan lose to the Pedigree and a long wait, even after a match was not good for business but more ego stroking for the GAME. Well, really what else do you expect? I was happy with HHH in his role as the good guy COO, because he needs to stay away from in ring action. Besides Jeff Hardy is their anyone who wasn't his friend to atleast some degree, that he put over? Not to mention that he completely no sold the loss the Hardy. I am trying not to go on a massive rant, all I will say is I hope HHH is the suit, Orton is the muscle and that is the way it stays. I think the good news, or atleast what I am hoping, is this was Bryan's way of putting HHH over without having to lose a match to him.
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Post by Derk! on Aug 19, 2013 14:18:16 GMT -5
Watched this at my neighbor's house. As soon as Orton pinned Bryan, I just walked out without saying a word...
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 19, 2013 14:20:25 GMT -5
It wasn't much of a surprise. Everyone and their dog knew that HHH would do something and Orton would cash in.
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Post by KofiMania on Aug 19, 2013 14:31:24 GMT -5
Cena gets his elbow fixed and is off TV, Orton and Bryan fight at NOC. Orton and Triple H challenge the new generation of Bryan, Ziggler and Punk to a 6-man tag team match at the October PPV. Orton and Triple H say we'll find out their third partner at the PPV. Match starts as 3 on 2 and Ziggler gets knocked unconscious and carted off early in the match. Cena comes out making his triumphant return to seemingly help Bryan and Punk but instead turns on them, joining forces with Triple H and Orton. Lots of possibilities for the next few months with heel Cena, Orton and HHH versus the new generation guys.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 19, 2013 14:34:05 GMT -5
Cena gets his elbow fixed and is off TV, Orton and Bryan fight at NOC. Orton and Triple H challenge the new generation of Bryan, Ziggler and Punk to a 6-man tag team match at the October PPV. Orton and Triple H say we'll find out their third partner at the PPV. Match starts as 3 on 2 and Ziggler gets knocked unconscious and carted off early in the match. Cena comes out making his triumphant return to seemingly help Bryan and Punk but instead turns on them, joining forces with Triple H and Orton. Lots of possibilities for the next few months with heel Cena, Orton and HHH versus the new generation guys. If Cena turns heel, he shouldn't be a Triple H flunkey.
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Post by KofiMania on Aug 19, 2013 14:35:29 GMT -5
Cena gets his elbow fixed and is off TV, Orton and Bryan fight at NOC. Orton and Triple H challenge the new generation of Bryan, Ziggler and Punk to a 6-man tag team match at the October PPV. Orton and Triple H say we'll find out their third partner at the PPV. Match starts as 3 on 2 and Ziggler gets knocked unconscious and carted off early in the match. Cena comes out making his triumphant return to seemingly help Bryan and Punk but instead turns on them, joining forces with Triple H and Orton. Lots of possibilities for the next few months with heel Cena, Orton and HHH versus the new generation guys. If Cena turns heel, he shouldn't be a Triple H flunkey. Cena would be the leader, Triple H just an authority figure who occasionally competes (think Hogan and Bischoff in the nWo).
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 19, 2013 14:36:05 GMT -5
Cena gets his elbow fixed and is off TV, Orton and Bryan fight at NOC. Orton and Triple H challenge the new generation of Bryan, Ziggler and Punk to a 6-man tag team match at the October PPV. Orton and Triple H say we'll find out their third partner at the PPV. Match starts as 3 on 2 and Ziggler gets knocked unconscious and carted off early in the match. Cena comes out making his triumphant return to seemingly help Bryan and Punk but instead turns on them, joining forces with Triple H and Orton. Lots of possibilities for the next few months with heel Cena, Orton and HHH versus the new generation guys. Imo, it would be more indicative of WWE's faith in Bryan as THE top face if Bryan and Cena are BOTH good guys with Cena being downgraded to a 2000s Shawn Michaels/"One on One With Da Undatakah" role than it does for Bryan to be the top face "by default" just because Cena is heel.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 19, 2013 14:37:45 GMT -5
They won't turn Cena heel.
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Post by The Baltimore Staircase on Aug 19, 2013 14:38:15 GMT -5
I like how, when they missed the AA spot towards the end, they just called an audible. Went with a DDT, flying headbutt and catch. You can even hear Cena telling Bryan twice.
"Heatbutt, I'll catch you".
"What was that?"
"Go for the headbutt, I'll catch you"
"Yeah".
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 19, 2013 14:40:25 GMT -5
I like how, when they missed the AA spot towards the end, they just called an audible. Went with a DDT, flying headbutt and catch. You can even hear Cena telling Bryan twice. If you would've told me back in 2002 that John Cena would be a ring general. I'd.......probably have a hard time taking it seriously.
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Post by FinalGwen on Aug 19, 2013 14:43:40 GMT -5
He needs to take a page out of Jericho's book and change everything that people like about him. If he really is about to become the corporate champion, it shouldn't be much of a challenge. He needs to do the WCW sympathizer Cactus Jack headlock based offense. Orton's been doing that for years as a face, why would they boo it now?
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 19, 2013 14:51:08 GMT -5
If Orton's turned heel, he should still encourage his fans to support him. Having rival sets of fans supporting their particular favourites, even if they are heels would be interesting and something different from the usual "you people are all idiots" schtick.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Aug 19, 2013 14:59:14 GMT -5
The match was amazing. The wrestlers, Triple H, the crowd, the clean win, Bryans big win with fireworks and finally the look by Orton to Trips and the heel turn.
I love Bryan and they gave him a great moment and when he overcomes the odds of Orton & Trips the pop may be even bigger. I'm really looking forward to see what happens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 15:41:53 GMT -5
He needs to do the WCW sympathizer Cactus Jack headlock based offense. Orton's been doing that for years as a face, why would they boo it now? I mainly want it to happen with Vince as Orton's personal commentator and sell every headlock like the US Hockey team beating the Soviets at Lake Placid. " Randy with another headlock! Do you believe it!? He's got him this time, Bryan will have no choice but to tap out!!!! Tap out, you bastard! Tap out!!!!"
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 19, 2013 15:44:01 GMT -5
If Orton's turned heel, he should still encourage his fans to support him. Having rival sets of fans supporting their particular favourites, even if they are heels would be interesting and something different from the usual "you people are all idiots" schtick. Isn't that basically Cena's gimmick as a face? At least now that WWE is blatantly having other wrestlers play off of him to get reactions?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2013 15:47:10 GMT -5
I think - aside from the skullduggery of the entire ending - that they're setting up the long game to push Bryan even further into the stratosphere of superstardom. He's beaten Cena clean. Now he's going to be Orton/HHH/&WWE management. But if this is one of those things where Bryan is a placeholder until Cena gets back to right the wrongs of the McMahon family.... le sigh, I don't know. I may just watch NXT only. hahah You mean like the time Cena completely stole Punk's spot in the Laurinaitis feud? Yeah but...aw damn.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 19, 2013 15:48:30 GMT -5
If Orton's turned heel, he should still encourage his fans to support him. Having rival sets of fans supporting their particular favourites, even if they are heels would be interesting and something different from the usual "you people are all idiots" schtick. Isn't that basically Cena's gimmick as a face? At least now that WWE is blatantly having other wrestlers play off of him to get reactions? It's the way to go. Rather than encouraging the fans to cheer for all faces and boo all heels, they should encourage some tribalism among the fans regardless of whether their favourite is face or heel.
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Post by Larryhausen on Aug 19, 2013 16:30:53 GMT -5
Anyone watched the reactions on The App?
It's kinda funny, but all of the reactions were "Bryan got screwed. I can't believe that happened to him."
Not "Triple H is evil, Randy Orton is evil, and I can't believe they did that."
It's kinda subtle, but it shows that he's not out of this yet.
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