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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Aug 18, 2013 22:34:05 GMT -5
Best heel turn WWE have pulled off since Undertaker attacked J.R.
Terrific stuff.
Also, Vince will at least turn full on babyface before the end of the year. Calling it.
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Aug 18, 2013 22:36:11 GMT -5
I thought it was excellent storytelling. Randy Orton, whether you like him or not, is far too big of a name to be doing nothing. He and Bryan should have good matches and him as a heel finally gives him some relevance again.
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Post by Arrow on Aug 18, 2013 22:36:44 GMT -5
Except for the HUGE difference is Austin got his moment. The actual difference is that this was never supposed to be Bryan's big moment. Bryan's big moment will (presumably) come when he regains the WWE title. And when that happens, then we can compare it to Austin. Now if Bryan doesn't get that moment, then there's a problem. But the point is that WWE was never building this to be a WM14 moment. It was simply the beginning of a new story - hopefully one that's about Bryan's quest to win the title back and get revenge on the people who cheated him here.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Aug 18, 2013 22:37:40 GMT -5
One inconsistent thing is the MITB cash in rule. Sometimes its "The champion must be standing before you can cash in" and other times the guy can just cash in even when the champion is laid out.
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Post by Renslayer on Aug 18, 2013 22:37:58 GMT -5
Ok, excitement on Bryan vs. Evolution 2.0 aside...what did everyone think about the match? LOVED every second of it. I bought this PPV solely for Punk-Brock & Cena-Bryan, and both matches were incredible. Money well spent
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 22:38:15 GMT -5
No way. This was executed as a means to majorly put Daniel Bryan over while keeping him in the chase. Bryan could still be in the chase even if he lost. All they had to do was have Bryan cut a promo about how he underestimated Cena's ability, and Cena gave him the biggest match of his life and proved that he WAS a wrestler. Cena could fade away to heal up and Bryan would still still have reason to fight the big bad WWE machine and chase the title because A BRIEFCASE?!?!?! Their goal was to put Bryan over, and they did it. Having him lose to Cena would have compromised their main objective.
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Post by fw91 on Aug 18, 2013 22:38:21 GMT -5
kinda interesting how mania will playout even though it is months away. where will the big names fit in after tonight? (Cena,Taker,Punk, Lesnar, Bryan, HHH, Rock, Orton?) Bryan vs. Orton Cena takes time off for surgery, comes back in time for Survivor Series. Probably Orton/HHH vs. Bryan/Cena. Punk probably continues feud with Lesnar. Rock won't be back until Wrestlemania time, if that. Likewise with Taker. that takes care of the fall, but when winter hits whats gonna happen. the hhh/vince power battle will probably culminate at mania. hhh/bryan??? if punk wins rumble i doubt they will do another mania match against orton, nor a 1 on 1 cena encounter. maybe a triple threat with brock/taker and rock sitting this one out. or maybe rock vs hhh for balance of power who knows
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Post by Kash Flagg on Aug 18, 2013 22:39:49 GMT -5
Eh, I'll wait and see.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 18, 2013 22:42:13 GMT -5
Anybody got a count on all of the "I'm done forever" posts?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 22:42:15 GMT -5
I'll reserve judgment for now. Odds are that creative screws it up completely to get a pop from Vince though, but I'll give them a chance one show at a time.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 18, 2013 22:42:21 GMT -5
I don't think this ruins Bryan as far as being a top babyface fighting the evil forces of the HHH machine.
It might ruin the concept of kicking off an era of him being presented as the "Greatest of All Time", though, since that Iconic "This is the beginning of his era" moment is compromised.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Aug 18, 2013 22:42:44 GMT -5
That's very brave of you.
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Post by steamboat1 on Aug 18, 2013 22:43:02 GMT -5
I just hope that somehow the power struggle for WWE stays in the Cena vs Orton and Mcmahon vs HHH and DOES NOT include the WWE Championship at WM. Taker vs Lesnar, Cena vs Orton, Bryan vs Punk for the title would be fine with me.
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Post by BigBadZ on Aug 18, 2013 22:43:05 GMT -5
Ok, excitement on Bryan vs. Evolution 2.0 aside...what did everyone think about the match? LOVED every second of it. I bought this PPV solely for Punk-Brock & Cena-Bryan, and both matches were incredible. Money well spent Agree completely. I usually only get Rumble and Mania each year but I don't feel screwed after buying this. But holy shit on that Bryan vs Cena match. We got to see Cena's eye swelling in real time and Bryan just about died when Cena had him upside down and jumped off the second rope. He looks very lucky not to have fallen on his head and be seriously injured.
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Post by Krazee on Aug 18, 2013 22:44:18 GMT -5
A couple of thoughts I had: I hope Bryan continues to use that running knee strike as an alternate finish. It's something he can hit on any opponent and it gives him a way to win matches when WWE may not want his opponent to tap-out. Will Orton have custom sideplates or will we finally have a WWE Champion who uses the default WWE logo sideplates? i'd LOVE to see vipers on the championship title belt
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 22:45:18 GMT -5
Anybody got a count on all of the "I'm done forever" posts? They're not that far off, in fact they can (and sometimes are) correct in their predictions. I said I was walking away from WWE till things improved, and so I was gone for two years. Now I'm back, but really only to see how Daniel Bryan plays out--I want to make sure I know what's going on without talking out of my butt whenever his push is being discussed. It's all academic. But if WWE messes up or goes back to tanking, I'm gone for two more years. That's really not much different than being "done forever." I think for at least some of the people saying that, it's the same way.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Aug 18, 2013 22:46:57 GMT -5
From what the rumors are saying this all leads to Triple H again whoever Vince picks to represent him (they say most likely Rock) at Mania for control of WWE. Which babyface Vince winning control isn't going to last long since sooner or later he'll hand over the damn thing to Triple H anyway.
I just don't know what happens to Cena, Orton, Bryan and the WWE title between now and then.
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Post by mo on Aug 18, 2013 22:47:03 GMT -5
As much as I know better than to say "I'll wait and see"...I'll wait and see. Mah boy D-Bry will be on top again dammit . At least until Cena's ready to come back
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Aug 18, 2013 22:47:39 GMT -5
Anybody got a count on all of the "I'm done forever" posts? I haven't seen one yet.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Aug 18, 2013 22:49:38 GMT -5
Anybody got a count on all of the "I'm done forever" posts? What would make you quit forever? And how can we expedite that? I keed. I keed.
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