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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Sept 1, 2013 10:43:42 GMT -5
I wonder if the Young Bucks shook his hand?
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Post by Abdullah on Sept 1, 2013 10:44:48 GMT -5
He had his own thread some months ago but is Johnny Garango much good? Just going by his looks and age, he seems to be someone the WWE would consider.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 1, 2013 11:28:13 GMT -5
Just imagine if this leads to them signing either Willie Mack, The Super Smash Bros. or Drake Younger I rarely watch anything involving the Indys, but last year I watched a few episodes of various shows and the two people that most interested me were El Generico and Willie Mack. And we know what happened with the former, I'd love to see the latter have the same happen. Bird bird bird. Bird bird bird. Seriously willie mack reminds me of koko so much
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 1, 2013 11:37:15 GMT -5
Problem with Willie Mack is that the guy just looks bad. He's reaaaaally out of shape. If they're getting on Ohno for that stuff, you think Mack or Chuck Taylor would fare any better?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 11:37:35 GMT -5
Really when scouting you never know who is a hit or not. Ryback's whole purpose in life was to get into the wwe so was ziggler's. ziggler, shelton, brock, swagger, lashley, and santino were gerald briscoe guys A guy like Cesaro is going to go far because of his dedication and discipline. They want to scout athletes based on their dedication to get in shape and put forth the best effort every time out. Why a guy like Ohno fails is his lack of discipline. Where a guy like Bo Dallas shows so much effort in what he does. Is it fair to call Ohno a failure and Bo Dallas a success already? Also they are both still employed. Like its a bit too soon to call them successes or failures considering they are still in development and haven't been offered full time employment on the main roster.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 1, 2013 11:49:23 GMT -5
Problem with Willie Mack is that the guy just looks bad. He's reaaaaally out of shape. If they're getting on Ohno for that stuff, you think Mack or Chuck Taylor would fare any better? Chuck actually looks way better now than he ever has. Willie Mack is Koko's clone dude I mean they are on tv based on the effort they put in. Sami Zayn knows he probably won't be wwe champ, but he will work his ass off anyways.
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Post by Chip on Sept 1, 2013 11:52:21 GMT -5
Problem with Willie Mack is that the guy just looks bad. He's reaaaaally out of shape. If they're getting on Ohno for that stuff, you think Mack or Chuck Taylor would fare any better? He's infinitely more in-shape then Brodus at the very least. Mack can work a 40 minute match no problem and still do a standing moonsault at the end. Just swap the two and put Mack in Clay's singlet, nobody will notice, trust me.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Sept 1, 2013 11:57:37 GMT -5
Why a guy like Ohno fails is his lack of discipline. Where a guy like Bo Dallas shows so much effort in what he does. Is it fair to call Ohno a failure and Bo Dallas a success already? Also they are both still employed. Like its a bit too soon to call them successes or failures considering they are still in development and haven't been offered full time employment on the main roster. It's definitely fair given the subject matter who is currently failing and who is succeeding. This is if we are to assume the rumors are true, of course. And based on his disappearance for NXT TV over the last few tapings plus jobbing to losers at house shows, I'm inclined to believe it now. Meanwhile Bo Dallas is the top heel and NXT Champ.
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Post by BigWill on Sept 1, 2013 12:00:28 GMT -5
Problem with Willie Mack is that the guy just looks bad. He's reaaaaally out of shape. If they're getting on Ohno for that stuff, you think Mack or Chuck Taylor would fare any better? He's infinitely more in-shape then Brodus at the very least. Mack can work a 40 minute match no problem and still do a standing moonsault at the end. Just swap the two and put Mack in Clay's singlet, nobody will notice, trust me. The only real question is, can he dance?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 12:03:55 GMT -5
Is it fair to call Ohno a failure and Bo Dallas a success already? Also they are both still employed. Like its a bit too soon to call them successes or failures considering they are still in development and haven't been offered full time employment on the main roster. It's definitely fair given the subject matter who is currently failing and who is succeeding. This is if we are to assume the rumors are true, of course. And based on his disappearance for NXT TV over the last few tapings plus jobbing to losers at house shows, I'm inclined to believe it now. Meanwhile Bo Dallas is the top heel and NXT Champ. Yeah but it's hard to take it as 100% truth. Like there is always a grain of truth but remember all the Punk HEATZ stories followed by him jobbing to the likes of The Miz and Hardcore Holly after only shortly after winning the ECW title or WHC, etc. Or Dean Ambrose has HEATZ stories and wasn't on TV tapings for a long long long time and jobbing in NXT dark matches too all of a sudden called up to be part of The Shield? Like I won't believe it until Ohno gets released soon
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Sept 1, 2013 12:14:02 GMT -5
It's definitely fair given the subject matter who is currently failing and who is succeeding. This is if we are to assume the rumors are true, of course. And based on his disappearance for NXT TV over the last few tapings plus jobbing to losers at house shows, I'm inclined to believe it now. Meanwhile Bo Dallas is the top heel and NXT Champ. Yeah but it's hard to take it as 100% truth. Like there is always a grain of truth but remember all the Punk HEATZ stories followed by him jobbing to the likes of The Miz and Hardcore Holly after only shortly after winning the ECW title or WHC, etc. Or Dean Ambrose has HEATZ stories and wasn't on TV tapings for a long long long time and jobbing in NXT dark matches too all of a sudden called up to be part of The Shield? Like I won't believe it until Ohno gets released soon The Punk stuff was true since its covered in his WWE documentary. The Ambrose stuff was mishmashed with rumours about what happened with the Foley feud. So yeah that was a result of Foley/WWE hiding his life threatening return to the ring. Everyone knew Ambrose was ready though. Meanwhile with Ohno we're seeing a guy who has vanished from NXT TV, which doesn't add up now given that EVERYONE who moves to WWE TV is current fixture of NXT TV. So while it might be difficult for us to take as 100% truth, we've not heard anything to the contrary from Ohno plus, again, he's nowhere to be seen except randomly jobbing on house shows.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 1, 2013 12:23:22 GMT -5
Problem with Willie Mack is that the guy just looks bad. He's reaaaaally out of shape. If they're getting on Ohno for that stuff, you think Mack or Chuck Taylor would fare any better? He's infinitely more in-shape then Brodus at the very least. Mack can work a 40 minute match no problem and still do a standing moonsault at the end. Just swap the two and put Mack in Clay's singlet, nobody will notice, trust me. Willie is 5'4 though
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Sept 1, 2013 12:26:26 GMT -5
Axel was randomly jobbing on house shows/off NXT for months before his debut.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Sept 1, 2013 12:30:47 GMT -5
Axel was randomly jobbing on house shows/off NXT for months before his debut. Yes, but I would call that a fair exception to the rule since he was being repackaged and it was set up to surprise us.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 12:33:04 GMT -5
Yeah but it's hard to take it as 100% truth. Like there is always a grain of truth but remember all the Punk HEATZ stories followed by him jobbing to the likes of The Miz and Hardcore Holly after only shortly after winning the ECW title or WHC, etc. Or Dean Ambrose has HEATZ stories and wasn't on TV tapings for a long long long time and jobbing in NXT dark matches too all of a sudden called up to be part of The Shield? Like I won't believe it until Ohno gets released soon The Punk stuff was true since its covered in his WWE documentary. The Ambrose stuff was mishmashed with rumours about what happened with the Foley feud. So yeah that was a result of Foley/WWE hiding his life threatening return to the ring. Everyone knew Ambrose was ready though. Meanwhile with Ohno we're seeing a guy who has vanished from NXT TV, which doesn't add up now given that EVERYONE who moves to WWE TV is current fixture of NXT TV. So while it might be difficult for us to take as 100% truth, we've not heard anything to the contrary from Ohno plus, again, he's nowhere to be seen except randomly jobbing on house shows. Like I said I don't really discount NEWZ as 100% false since there is a grain of truth. With how WWE is runned there are tons of bookers, writers, agents, and probably even other wrestlers and commentators that they ask for their input that there could be tons of guys who hate someone with a few people liking the wrestler and have significant pull to get the person pushed or keeping the wrestler from being released. Or everyone hates the wrestler but many or few see the value in the talent to keep him around. Which is why I believe he still has supporters from guys with significant pull or be would be released already. Like for example there is that one guy who is the son from some legendary country artist and Blades father figure from the Blade movies who was released for not being in shape and not getting over despite that he was liked by everyone and acknowledged he had tons of passion for wrestling. But I guess all we can do is speculate right now and won't know till the future.
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Post by percymania on Sept 1, 2013 12:33:21 GMT -5
I don't understand why scouting is so hard. As a wrestler, one of the hardest things to do in the world is to get an indy wrestling crowd to care about you. So as a scout, all you have to do is find the guys on the indies who get the biggest reactions and there's your next WWE superstars. If a guy can get themselves over on the indies, they certainly will be able to get over with a WWE crowd with all the added production value.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 12:36:57 GMT -5
It's actually just Dino Winwood doing a really convincing impression of him.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Sept 1, 2013 12:39:26 GMT -5
The Punk stuff was true since its covered in his WWE documentary. The Ambrose stuff was mishmashed with rumours about what happened with the Foley feud. So yeah that was a result of Foley/WWE hiding his life threatening return to the ring. Everyone knew Ambrose was ready though. Meanwhile with Ohno we're seeing a guy who has vanished from NXT TV, which doesn't add up now given that EVERYONE who moves to WWE TV is current fixture of NXT TV. So while it might be difficult for us to take as 100% truth, we've not heard anything to the contrary from Ohno plus, again, he's nowhere to be seen except randomly jobbing on house shows. Like I said I don't really discount NEWZ as 100% false since there is a grain of truth. With how WWE is runned there are tons of bookers, writers, agents, and probably even other wrestlers and commentators that they ask for their input that there could be tons of guys who hate someone with a few people liking the wrestler and have significant pull to get the person pushed or keeping the wrestler from being released. Or everyone hates the wrestler but many or few see the value in the talent to keep him around. Which is why I believe he still has supporters from guys with significant pull or be would be released already. Like for example there is that one guy who is the son from some legendary country artist and Blades father figure from the Blade movies who was released for not being in shape and not getting over despite that he was liked by everyone and acknowledged he had tons of passion for wrestling. But I guess all we can do is speculate right now and won't know till the future. Yeah and on that point, I would venture to say that assuming all of this is true, this period is make-or-break for Ohno to make it in WWE or not. We'll know much sooner than later.
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Post by Chip on Sept 1, 2013 12:49:18 GMT -5
He's infinitely more in-shape then Brodus at the very least. Mack can work a 40 minute match no problem and still do a standing moonsault at the end. Just swap the two and put Mack in Clay's singlet, nobody will notice, trust me. Willie is 5'4 though He's always billed as 5'10 and he's never looked small against anybody, even Ohno. Even then, I'll take the insanely talented smaller dude over the bigger dude who can't do as much any day. He's infinitely more in-shape then Brodus at the very least. Mack can work a 40 minute match no problem and still do a standing moonsault at the end. Just swap the two and put Mack in Clay's singlet, nobody will notice, trust me. The only real question is, can he dance? I, sadly, have been unable to find any video evidence of Willie Mack dancing but I'm certain I've seen him shake it in the past.
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Post by rybackrulez on Sept 1, 2013 13:01:03 GMT -5
Brodus and Tensai going heel would work for them. A lot. Really Brodus is a big man comedy brawler he is supposed to just bulldoze through people. Like earthquake or scott norton.
Willie Mack is Koko B. Ware re-incarnate.
You need variety.
It is an unfair comparison to make really dude.
Also willie mack is not 5'10, i have taken pictures with him where he is shorter than my 5'5 girlfriend.
I like Willie, i like Brodus.
I really hope Jay Lethal is on WWE's radar. NXT would make him into greatness.
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