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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 13:24:54 GMT -5
Thread is kinda sorta infuriating, you know? It's because of the side taking and absolutes. "He's only getting pushed cuz he's gay" or "This has nothing to do with him coming out." Both are over-simplifying things. There is little doubt in my mind that the good publicity is resulting in a renewed push for Young and the PTPs. It's far too much of a coincidence. But, he's a 10 year veteran who is very good at what he does. He's put himself in the position to be capable of handling this push. And the fans are cheering him on their own, WWE isn't playing it up like "cheer for him or you hate the gays!" This is what WWE does nowdays. They hoard a ton of talent, and when a reason comes up to push someone, they do it. |
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Post by wallabylikeyou on Sept 3, 2013 13:42:42 GMT -5
I'm glad their push involves a winning streak when other people's pushes involve losing ones. I prefer Titus to Darren but they make a good team. I'm happy they're getting some spotlight.
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Post by KobashiChop on Sept 4, 2013 4:07:41 GMT -5
Darren coming out happened at a good time as far as their TV time was concerned. It was a valid reason to turn them face without a big explanation considering that thhe crowd liked them anyway, and the WWE have just ran with it really. Popular tag team that the fans like? Why not give them some wins?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 4, 2013 12:38:26 GMT -5
The PTP aren't stealing pushes from Ryder, Hawkins, and any other midcarders. If WWE wants to push someone, they will do it. I suppose people are going to accuse Los Matadores of stealing Sin Cara's push or Curtis Axel is the reason why Ted Dibiase quit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 12:47:43 GMT -5
Thread is kinda sorta infuriating, you know? It's because of the side taking and absolutes. "He's only getting pushed cuz he's gay" or "This has nothing to do with him coming out." Both are over-simplifying things. There is little doubt in my mind that the good publicity is resulting in a renewed push for Young and the PTPs. It's far too much of a coincidence. But, he's a 10 year veteran who is very good at what he does. He's put himself in the position to be capable of handling this push. And the fans are cheering him on their own, WWE isn't playing it up like "cheer for him or you hate the gays!" This is what WWE does nowdays. They hoard a ton of talent, and when a reason comes up to push someone, they do it. I'm inclined to agree with this. Their push's timing undoubtedly has something to do with Young coming out, but it is certainly justified in my opinion by the fact that the two are good at their jobs and have managed to get over in their own right just due to being entertaining. Though to me Titus will always be that guy who no-sold the Player's Boot. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 4, 2013 12:53:52 GMT -5
The PTP aren't stealing pushes from Ryder, Hawkins, and any other midcarders. If WWE wants to push someone, they will do it. I suppose people are going to accuse Los Matadores of stealing Sin Cara's push or Curtis Axel is the reason why Ted Dibiase quit. Of course they aren't politicking backstage and personally stealing pushes, but you can't argue that WWE has this habit of turning perfectly good heels face to avoid having to use the faces they already had. The PTP's were entertaining as bad guys, but I never found it "forced" like others are saying. They were supposed to be loud and obnoxious douches who despite being low carders, believed that they were top draws (hence the Millions of Dollars catchphrase). If WWE wanted to give the PTPs a few wins, how hard would it have been to let them go over the likes of the Major Bros (I want them back together if they won't be used properly as singles guys), Tons of Funk, Alex Riley, or Yoshi Tatsu. Or let Ted have a proper send off by going out on his back (he's actually won most of his televised matches) and putting over Young. The face turn just felt unnecessary on WWE's part. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2013 12:59:45 GMT -5
I think it would be more a problem if they weren't getting good reactions or weren't good at their jobs. They're not taking pushes from anyone. They've been great for a while now and I hope this face turn leads to a run with the titles soon.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 4, 2013 13:02:16 GMT -5
I think it would be more a problem if they weren't getting good reactions or weren't good at their jobs. They're not taking pushes from anyone. They've been great for a while now and I hope this face turn leads to a run with the titles soon. This is one thing I can agree on. While I'm not happy about them being face, I do think that this might be just the thing WWE needs to get the titles out of Super Team Limbo. |
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Sept 4, 2013 13:03:24 GMT -5
Since Darren Young admitted he was gay. So I guess the lesson is if you want a push say that you're gay. Even if you're not. Yeah, this point/"joke" has been made before, and it's still complete nonsense. There are lots of people getting pushes in the WWE, and 99% of them are straight. Statistically speaking, only 88-91% of them are straight. |
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 4, 2013 13:05:32 GMT -5
The PTP aren't stealing pushes from Ryder, Hawkins, and any other midcarders. If WWE wants to push someone, they will do it. I suppose people are going to accuse Los Matadores of stealing Sin Cara's push or Curtis Axel is the reason why Ted Dibiase quit. Of course they aren't personally stealing pushes, but you can't argue that WWE has this habit of turning perfectly good heels face to avoid having to use the faces they already had. The PTP's were entertaining as bad guys, but I never found it "forced" like others are saying. If WWE wanted to give the PTPs a few wins, how hard would it have been to let them go over the likes of the Major Bros (I want them back together if they won't be used properly as singles guys), Tons of Funk, Alex Riley, or Yoshi Tatsu. Or let Ted have a proper send off by going out on his back (he's actually won most of his televised matches) and putting over Young. The face turn just felt unnecessary on WWE's part. The PTP were way too entertaining to keep as heels. WWE was eventually going to turn them faces. WWE sees more potential in them as a babyface duo instead of staying heels. |
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Post by Ape Boy on Sept 4, 2013 16:45:25 GMT -5
Are there people who are actually denying that the Prime Time Players' new-found push is directly related to Darren Young coming out of the closet? It clearly is. The question is whether it's something worth getting upset over.
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Post by papagiorgio on Sept 4, 2013 17:06:05 GMT -5
I do think their push has kind of hurt the Usos' push. I'd guess PTP will get a tag title match at NOC.
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Post by metylerca on Sept 4, 2013 17:26:18 GMT -5
They're still boring and their matches still don't exactly have fans clamoring for more.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 4, 2013 18:12:45 GMT -5
They deserved a push even before Darren Young came out. They are hilarious.
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